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Obama’s Signal to Israel: Submit
National Review ^ | May 12, 2009 | Mona Charen

Posted on 05/12/2009 6:12:50 AM PDT by reaganaut1

In early April, Vice President Biden was asked if the administration was concerned that Israel might strike at Iran’s nuclear facilities. “I don’t believe Prime Minister Netanyahu would do that,” Mr. Biden replied. “I think he would be ill-advised to do that.”

A few weeks later, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton explained the administration’s solution to the threat of an Iranian bomb: “For Israel to get the kind of strong support it’s looking for vis-à-vis Iran it can’t stay on the sideline with respect to the Palestinians and the peace efforts . . . they go hand-in-hand.”

And on May 10, National Security Advisor James Jones spelled it out further. “We understand Israel’s preoccupation with Iran as an existential threat. We agree with that. . . . By the same token, there are a lot of things that you can do to diminish that existential threat by working hard towards achieving a two-state solution.”

By what reasoning has the administration decided that pushing Israel to permit a new Palestinian state would — in any way — diminish the threat from Iran? Do they believe that Iran’s (or, I should say, the Iranian leadership’s) genocidal hostility toward Israel is the result of lack of progress toward an independent Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza? Will the Iranian leadership, which has characterized Israel as a “cancerous tumor,” declared that “Israel must we wiped off the map,” and promised that “Israel is destined for destruction and will soon disappear,” change its mind if Israel enters into negotiations with the Palestinians?

“Obama will be a great friend to Israel.” So said a Jewish Democrat in a pre-election debate with me.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: bho44; democrats; dhimmicrats; iran; israel; monacharen; obama; wot

1 posted on 05/12/2009 6:12:50 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1
We have mental midgets running the country.

It's like a real life version of the film "Idiocracy".

2 posted on 05/12/2009 6:19:44 AM PDT by Bobalu (Don't despair, it will all be over soon.)
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To: Bobalu
It's like a real life version of the film "Idiocracy".

Idiocracy was art imitating life.

3 posted on 05/12/2009 6:23:33 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: reaganaut1

Israel to Big O - FUBO


4 posted on 05/12/2009 6:25:16 AM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: reaganaut1

Which being interpreted is: Islam.

To which Israel should respond: LAM ASLAM!!!
[I will not submit.]


5 posted on 05/12/2009 6:27:28 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann in 2012 ~~ Two Women to Clean the House and the Senate!)
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To: Bobalu
There is something very strange going on in the US right now. I have never seen anything like this, and I lived through the 60's.

1. Obama has created a cult of personality evocative of those surrounding dictators like Peron, Hitler, Stalin, and Il Duce.

2. There is, seemingly, no firearms ammunition to be found.

3. Down is up and up is down in foreign affairs. Obama is literally p*ssing on America's natural allies. To wit, the other English speaking democracies, the UK, Canada, and Australia.

4. Another long term strategic ally, and the only democracy in the mid-east is literally being abandoned while Obama tries to get friendly with the zealots who run Iran. To what purpose?

5. The markets and the economy have not been in this much turmoil since the 1930's. Obama's policies are setting up a massive inflation or the possible bankruptcy of the USA.

6. All the wrong moves are being made vis a vis foreign hotspots: Iran, Iraq, North Korea, pirates in Somolia.

None of this is good.

6 posted on 05/12/2009 6:39:07 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: reaganaut1
“We understand Israel’s preoccupation with Iran as an existential threat. We agree with that. . . . By the same token, there are a lot of things that you can do to diminish that existential threat by working hard towards achieving a two-state solution.”

Only a fool believes that. The only thing that will satisfy Israels enemies is the destruction of Israel, as their enemies have made clear for decades. There is no linkage between Iran's behavior and what Israel does or does not do re: the Palestinians. Iran has been calling for Israel's destruction since Carter helped Khomeini return to Iran in the late 1970s.

7 posted on 05/12/2009 6:39:52 AM PDT by Will88
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To: reaganaut1
Obama’s Signal to Israel: Submit

Its his signal to the US too... witness the OBowMa bow to the Saudi king.

8 posted on 05/12/2009 6:42:23 AM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: reaganaut1
“Obama will be a great friend to Israel.” So said a Jewish Democrat in a pre-election debate with me.

Talk about delusional. I still can't imagine what would have impelled anybody to think anything remotely like this.

9 posted on 05/12/2009 6:45:48 AM PDT by livius
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To: reaganaut1

The Jews and the Catholics who voted for this man, this avowed enemy and destroyer of their respective faiths, have a serious piece of self-examination work to do. Not that will do the them or the rest of us much good. The damage is done. There was no mystery at all about what 0bama stood for, none. I hope we have something resembling our Constitutionally-based Republic left after he and his goons are done. I know I’m not making any big revelation saying I have serious doubts in that department.


10 posted on 05/12/2009 6:47:31 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Mr. Bernanke, have you started working on your book about the second GREATER depression?")
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To: reaganaut1

So what’s the message here? Allow the creation of a Palestinian state or we will allow Iran to obliterate you?

This does not make any sense to me.


11 posted on 05/12/2009 6:52:59 AM PDT by Bahbah (v)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you'd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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12 posted on 05/12/2009 6:59:09 AM PDT by SJackson (right of the mortgagee to insist upon full payment ... the essence of a mortgage, Justice Brandeis)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Just went to Cabellas website. There is plenty of ammo.


13 posted on 05/12/2009 7:00:22 AM PDT by DownInFlames (C)
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To: reaganaut1
Hussein is siding America with the PLO terrorists.

Disgusting.

14 posted on 05/12/2009 7:01:35 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: DownInFlames
Just went to Cabellas website. There is plenty of ammo.

______________________________________

I just ordered $200+ of emergency stuff from Cabela's this morning. I'm building a bug-out bag for my son who lives at the beach.

15 posted on 05/12/2009 7:04:12 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Bobalu

actually I thought that Terry Crews’ character in Idiocracy was a much better President than Barry.....


16 posted on 05/12/2009 7:13:33 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Here’s what I think is going on (from Romans 1):

18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.

27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.

29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,

30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;

31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.

32Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.


17 posted on 05/12/2009 7:16:55 AM PDT by bethtopaz (www.rapturealert.com)
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To: livius; ml/nj; rmlew; dennisw; Nachum; Yehuda; SJackson; juliej; ExTexasRedhead; sheik yerbouty; ...
Talk about delusional. I still can't imagine what would have impelled anybody to think anything remotely like this.

It's the "D" next to Obama's name. There are way too many Jews who are addicted to supporting 'Rat candidates, so they try to rationalize what is otherwise irrational, just as other types of addicts do. This addiction holds more for Jewish women than Jewish men, although both sexes are afflicted.

18 posted on 05/12/2009 7:32:25 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

The DemocRATs would vote for satan himself it he was a DemocRAT


19 posted on 05/12/2009 8:24:37 AM PDT by Nachum (the complete list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: justiceseeker93

http://navlog.org/chicken_pellet_jews,html


20 posted on 05/12/2009 8:37:40 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: listenhillary

...And the flea bitten camel he rode in on!


21 posted on 05/12/2009 11:05:08 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: livius

It’s a typo. It should read, “Obama will be a great fiend to Israel.”


22 posted on 05/12/2009 11:06:06 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Isaiah 5:20..It’s in the Book..


23 posted on 05/12/2009 11:07:24 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Bobalu

Actually, we noticed that the president in that movie looked more like MICHELLE Obama than Barry...


24 posted on 05/12/2009 11:08:35 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: DownInFlames

Plenty of ammo on the Cabela’s site, eh?
Then why has my order been on backorder for 2 months?


25 posted on 05/12/2009 11:09:51 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: Nachum
The DemocRATs would vote for satan himself it he was a DemocRAT

Why not? They're already directly doing everything Satan wants done.

26 posted on 05/12/2009 11:10:46 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Seriously, the only solution to the Palis is to give them a 72 hour notice, then carpet bomb everywhere they were living, then set up guarded, mined border fences.

There is NO WAY to live in the same place as someone who insists on your death or enslavement.

We’re seeing this here with our own homegrown fascists.


27 posted on 05/12/2009 11:12:48 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: MrB

Yes, for 62 years, Israel has been turning the other cheek, giving, giving and giving the Muslims land, guns, medical care, food, free schooling through university, infrastructure and getting only hate and terrorism in return. It’s time for Israel to take care of Israel and get peace with justice for Israelis.


28 posted on 05/12/2009 11:23:11 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: pabianice
Chicken Pellet Jews

Fixed.

29 posted on 05/12/2009 11:33:20 AM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: sheik yerbouty
It’s a typo. It should read, “Obama will be a great fiend to Israel

You're absolutely right! Silly me!

30 posted on 05/12/2009 12:16:51 PM PDT by livius
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To: reaganaut1

Note from self to Israel:

PLEASE take good care of yourself-—you will be a very important part of the future world which will NO LONGER have NObama to screw things up.


31 posted on 05/12/2009 12:28:46 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: reaganaut1

0bama wants Israel to islam?


32 posted on 05/12/2009 1:47:25 PM PDT by combat_boots (When the government controls the captial, all that is left is tyranny. Tagline by Redwarning.)
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To: Bahbah

“This does not make any sense to me.”

NOTHING Ø does makes any sense, except when you understand that he is trying to destroy America and every ally that supports what is right.

Then it all makes sense.


33 posted on 05/12/2009 11:24:34 PM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: reaganaut1

Tell obama to shut up and turn Iran into a glass parking lot!!!


34 posted on 05/12/2009 11:31:16 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: justiceseeker93; FARS; nuconvert; Ernest_at_the_Beach

35 posted on 05/12/2009 11:38:39 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo

Lol


36 posted on 05/13/2009 4:08:25 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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