This health care will kill thousands

Union Leader ^ | 5-13-09 | Karol Sikora

[itsahoot]

The government will determine who gets to live and who gets to die. The family will have no say in the matter.

My argument with true Libertarians is that without God in the equation, then people become a commodity subject to cost benefit analysis. Old people will always come out o the short end of this stick, unless they are political power brokers, or their friends.

Maybe we can bring back the Coliseum and let the old fogies fight it out for their medicine, be entertaining for the kids and all.

[Attention Surplus Disorder]

I think it could also be done on a very profitable “mid-level” basis. (disclosure: I know nothing other than the readily apparent about how medical systems work and their profitability)

It can cost $8K+ a month to house an elderly couple in the US, and that ain’t the Ritz, that’s close to the bottom of the barrel. That’s a dumpy suburban facility, nothing special, with only “emergency clinic” facilities available. I am thinking about “packaging” the hospicing of the elder while allowing family members to come around and pay their respects without getting bored to death. I am not sure about the impact of catastrophic insurance + or -, IMO it would make sense on a cash basis. Especially if it could be done in a grade “B” resort that was losing business because it wasn’t in tip-top shape.

[SJackson]

My argument with true Libertarians is that without God in the equation, then people become a commodity subject to cost benefit analysis

That's very true, the arrogance of deciding the worth of a life isn't apparent in non-religious based value systems.

[Doomonyou]

Diseases with less vocal lobby groups, such as strokes and mental health, get neglected at the expense of those that can shout louder. This is a principle that could soon be exported to America.

AIDS treatments and Abortions will be swimming in cash.

[SJackson]

I’m sure you’re right regarding hospices, and they’d go hand in hand. I was thinking more of the denial and delay of needed care issues. You need a $50,000 to $100,000 (probably less without the US system overhead) life saving or enhancing procedure, but it’s a 4 month delay in the US, or it’s denied based on other health issues, or simply not available. Will an offshore solution develop? I think there’s a good chance it would, particularly if insurance brought the cost of the procedure down to a large deductable, pick your number.

[MrB]

I assert that that is the full intent and reason for implementing a socialist healthcare system -

to control people by granting and denying health care.

[SJackson]

Yes they will

[jimt]

Every time I hear of Britain's NICE, I think of C.S. Lewis's NICE in That Hideous Strength.

Too bad there's not a Ransom to bring it crashing down.

[eleni121]

Overseas medical care is what many Americans are already doing..Euros/others have been doing it for years.

I suspect that much more of that will happen in the future.

[Pajamajan]

bttt

[socialismisinsidious]

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