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4 U.S. Citizens Found Strangled in Mexican Border City
Fox ^ | 5/14/09 | staff

Posted on 05/14/2009 9:57:24 PM PDT by pissant

TIJUANA, Mexico — The bodies of four U.S. citizens were found strangled, beaten and stabbed in a van in this border city, two days after they reportedly left their Southern California homes for a night at the Mexican clubs, U.S. officials said Thursday.

The victims, ages 19 to 23 years old, were found tied up on Saturday, but their deaths were not reported earlier because they were under investigation, said Fermin Gomez, an assistant state prosecutor in Baja California.

U.S. consular officials in Tijuana said the victims — two men and two women from the San Diego and Chula Vista areas — were U.S. citizens. The state attorney general's office in Baja, Calif., said one of the women was Mexican.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: anotherdeadamerican; border; chulavista; illegalaliens; immigration; larrysinclairslover; mexico; narcoterror; obama; sandiego; tijuana; wod
drug wars
1 posted on 05/14/2009 9:57:24 PM PDT by pissant
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To: SonOfPyrodex

cuatro muertos


3 posted on 05/14/2009 10:02:29 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Can there be any doubt that we need to shut down the southern border and place the National Guard there?


4 posted on 05/14/2009 10:03:39 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: pissant

This is no longer a police matter, this is an issue of national security and the national guard needs to be put on the border instead of waxing humvess on the weekends.


5 posted on 05/14/2009 10:05:05 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: SoldierDad; LukeL

Based on this story, we should put guards on the border to keep Americans in.


7 posted on 05/14/2009 10:06:38 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: SonOfPyrodex

The fourth of fifth is quite a freuidian slip from obummer.


8 posted on 05/14/2009 10:07:45 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: pissant

IIRC there were 24 Americans from San Diego County kidnapped in TJ and Baja last year. Mostly ransomed and released.


9 posted on 05/14/2009 10:07:45 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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To: pissant

Nothing to see here, move along.


10 posted on 05/14/2009 10:08:39 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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I’m just shaking my head. They died out of ignorance by not knowing that TIJUANA is no longer the party zone like it used to be. It’s a war zone.


11 posted on 05/14/2009 10:15:54 PM PDT by ak267
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To: ak267
I’m just shaking my head. They died out of ignorance by not knowing that TIJUANA is no longer the party zone like it used to be. It’s a war zone.

They're from Chulajuana (Chule Vista), just over the border. They knew.

12 posted on 05/14/2009 10:18:37 PM PDT by South40 (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its Idiot.)
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To: Veto!

Closing the border is a two way proposition IMHO. No one in - no one out.


13 posted on 05/14/2009 10:20:16 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: ak267

How do you know they weren’t involved in drug smuggling?


14 posted on 05/14/2009 10:20:48 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: HiJinx
Salvajismo....

A bigger threat than Swine flu goes unreported.
15 posted on 05/14/2009 10:25:56 PM PDT by BIGLOOK
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To: ozzymandus

Just curious, do you know something about this case? Can you point me to the link that says they’re smugglers? Do they have a criminal record or are you just insinuating?


16 posted on 05/14/2009 10:36:22 PM PDT by ak267
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To: pissant
No more trips to the Blue Fox in TJ for a late evening of watching "Juicy Lucie doing the P**** Watutsi"
17 posted on 05/14/2009 10:49:26 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: ak267

I don’t know anything besides the article. I was asking what you knew. I didn’t “insinuate” anything.


18 posted on 05/14/2009 10:51:08 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: pissant

Are the clubs really that good?


19 posted on 05/14/2009 11:50:49 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: eyedigress
The fourth of fifth is quite a freuidian slip from obummer.

What he really said was "five of four." I think it means 0borg is a math illiterate automaton who has come to assimilate us all.

20 posted on 05/15/2009 12:31:25 AM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: pissant

http://www.kpbs.org/news/2009/may/14/drug-ties-suspected-four-chula-vista-residents-dea/

Drug Ties Suspected With Four Chula Vista Residents Dead in Tijuana

By Amy Isackson
Thursday, May 14, 2009

Baja California’s Attorney General says four Chula Vista residents killed in Tijuana last Saturday were not tourists looking for a good time south of the border. The Attorney General strongly suspects the group had drug ties.

Baja California Attorney General Rommel Moreno says a relative of Briana Hernandez - she’s one of two women killed - turned over a letter from a woman serving time on drug charges in Southern California.

Moreno says the letter threatened Hernandez and the others that they’d come to an end with cocaine up their noses.

The four bodies were found in blankets inside a van in a residential area in eastern Tijuana.

Authorities say Hernandez tested positive for cocaine.

Moreno says he can say categorically the four were not innocent victims.

“The fact that a young woman uses coke and has ties to a woman in jail on drug charges rules out that she’s the kind of person who’s simply a university student.” (translated from Spanish)

Moreno says the four crossed the border often and were comfortable on both sides.

He says he’s working with US authorities in the ongoing investigation.


21 posted on 05/15/2009 12:55:31 AM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: ak267; ozzymandus; South40; SoCalPol
Just curious, do you know something about this case? Can you point me to the link that says they’re smugglers? Do they have a criminal record or are you just insinuating?

Ping to above PBS article.

22 posted on 05/15/2009 12:57:28 AM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/may/15/1m15tjdead235855-investigators-gather-clues-4-slay/

Investigators gather clues in 4 slayings
May 15, 2009

TIJUANA — A letter sent from a California prison inmate, an identification card picked up in a Tijuana house, and numerous interviews with friends and family members are helping Baja California investigators piece together the events that led to last week’s killings of four San Diego County residents.

... Mexican authorities described the victims as young Mexican-Americans who frequently crossed from San Diego to party in Tijuana. The U.S. Consulate in Tijuana confirmed yesterday that all four were U.S. citizens: Brianna Hernandez Aguilera, 19; Carmen Jimena Ramos Chavez, 20; Oscar Jorge Garcia Cota, 23; and Luis Antonio Gamez, 21.

“We are presuming that these people had connections in Mexico and the United States with criminals,” Baja California Attorney General Rommel Moreno Manjarrez said in an interview.

A key piece of evidence is a letter sent to Hernandez by a woman serving time in a California prison on a drug charge, Moreno said. He described the letter’s tone as threatening and said “we are reviewing the text of the letter, line by line, with great seriousness.”

... Relatives of the two women, both Chula Vista residents, have told investigators that the women went to Tijuana on Thursday night to party. On Friday night, family members filed a missing persons report after the women failed to answer their cell phones, the Chula Vista Police Department said.

... Mexican authorities said they did not know if any of the victims had criminal records. One of the men, Garcia, was arrested on suspicion of alien smuggling in January 2008 after he was stopped while driving a vehicle with six illegal immigrants aboard, but he was not charged, said Lauren Mack, spokeswoman in San Diego for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

The two women were recent graduates of Chula Vista High School, Sweetwater Union High School District spokeswoman Lillian Leopold confirmed. Garcia attended Southwest High School in Nestor but did not graduate, she said.

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23 posted on 05/15/2009 1:07:22 AM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: pissant

Now Hear Me,
Four guilty Americans with guns, raiding the homes
of poor Mexican families in the dark of night
who only want to live in America

Do not make this an issue about evil dead Americans

24 posted on 05/15/2009 1:16:37 AM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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To: calcowgirl

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/may/13/bn13tjdead-update/?metro&zIndex=99105

Four who went to party in Tijuana found dead
By Sandra Dibble Union-Tribune Staff Writer, Pauline Repard Union-Tribune Staff Writer

Originally published 10:29 p.m. May 13, 2009, updated 12:07 a.m., May 14, 2009

TIJUANA – Authorities are investigating the slayings of four young people, at least three of them from Chula Vista, whose bodies were found early Saturday inside a van parked in a residential neighborhood of Tijuana..........

Above is a link to this story.
From what has been reported and what I have heard on the news, this is the story.


25 posted on 05/15/2009 1:05:19 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol

The one I posted from the SDUT is 2 days more current than your link.
It seems that they are still investigating to find the truth.


26 posted on 05/15/2009 1:34:22 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: pissant
I'd rather juggle chain saws than go into Mexico.

Funny, how these Mexicans flee the Mexican corruption and culture and then run up into the U.S., and wave their tacky, Mexican flags around.

Very odd behavior.

27 posted on 05/15/2009 1:45:08 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: pissant; SwinneySwitch; rabscuttle385; Cindy; gubamyster

I got this article in an email from the NAFBPO earlier today, thanks for posting it. NOT good! I’m sure Janet Nappin’-at-the-Alamo will ignore this as well.


28 posted on 05/15/2009 1:58:10 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: calcowgirl

I saw your article earlier on onlineSD
Whatever the outcome, it is same crap different day.


29 posted on 05/15/2009 2:00:50 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: calcowgirl

Looks like we’ve got a bunch of illegal alien loving anchor babies in this story, per your article. And people don’t understand why some of us don’t trust them with being ‘citizens’ and voting.


30 posted on 05/15/2009 2:06:55 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: AuntB

Thank you for the ping and info Aunt B.


31 posted on 05/15/2009 2:23:02 PM PDT by Cindy
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