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(Daily Mail-UK) Obama's bid to suppress prisoner abuse pictures fails as images are leaked
UK Daily Mail ^ | 5-15-09 | Mail Foriegn Service (They're not Telling!)

Posted on 05/15/2009 6:48:52 AM PDT by tcrlaf

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To: tcrlaf
At least the detainees all have their heads!
51 posted on 05/15/2009 7:31:00 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (I will not be silenced.)
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To: M203M4

Good call!


52 posted on 05/15/2009 7:31:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

Petulant prisoners, especially juveniles, actually frequently defecate on themselves as a way to get back at their captors. It’s worth noting. If you know anybody who works or has worked at a juvenile detention facility, you know this is true.


53 posted on 05/15/2009 7:31:17 AM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: tcrlaf
" It's becoming clear that Obama has little control over those around him."

No, this is how he wanted it to play out. The pics get published to satisfy his yowling leftist base, yet he gets to adopt a posture of statesmanlike prudence and pretend it didn't happen on his watch.
54 posted on 05/15/2009 7:31:55 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (1st call: Abbas. 1st interview: Al Arabiya. 1st energy decision: halt drilling in UT. Arabs 1st!)
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To: tcrlaf
And we know these pics are authentic "abuse by US troops" because....

vaudine

55 posted on 05/15/2009 7:32:23 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: franklog

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5325444/New-prisoner-abuse-photographs-emerge-despite-US-bid-to-block-publication.html

The images emerged from Australia yesterday where they were originally obtained by the channel SBS in 2006 in the wake of the Abu Ghraib scandal. They were not distributed around the world at the time but are now believed to be among those the president is trying to block.


56 posted on 05/15/2009 7:32:47 AM PDT by maggief
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To: MinuteGal
Leni, *O* the bass turd knew this would happen. His “opposition” was just a teflon coating for the One!
57 posted on 05/15/2009 7:33:06 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (I will not be silenced.)
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To: tcrlaf; All

Now phony pictures can be “leaked” with no attribution, and Obama can claim plausible deniability.

The Boston Globe once published front-page “torture” pictures that turned out to be from a homosexual BDSM movie or the like.

Nobody will be able to tell, in the coming flood of images, which are real and which are not.

This explains Obama’s apparent flip-flop on the issue, he figured a way to do even more harm in a way that won’t be his fault, it’ll all be above his pay grade.


58 posted on 05/15/2009 7:33:57 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: cripplecreek
Oppose something, then suddenly it happens out of his control.

It is called "having it both ways." He announces his objections, it happens anyway (which he wanted in the first place).

vaudine

59 posted on 05/15/2009 7:34:17 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: rdax
That’s how I would get out of bed on Sunday mornings back in college.

I hated dropping my first cigarette of the day from the top bunk.
60 posted on 05/15/2009 7:34:24 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Look no further than the offal office. Zero gets to have it both ways. Officially, he didn’t release the pics. But he made damn sure they got out.


61 posted on 05/15/2009 7:35:15 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Anti-Bubba182

The “leaker” is probably in the White House. This way Zero has it both ways. “ I tried to suppress them” and they got out anyway to damage the miliary. A win win for the Zero White House.


62 posted on 05/15/2009 7:36:49 AM PDT by Kozak (e)
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To: MinuteGal
O'Reilly is a toad, always has been. I don't even think he is driven by ratings directly - my guess (based on nothing but my over-active imagination, if his turd-eating legal team wants to know) is that he is driven by an emotional need of partaking in the gala/party circuit with the Beautiful People, probably in the faint hope of finding some eager 20-something whore (in turn looking for an "in") to be party to his loofah fantasies. I'll give the diaper-wearing metrosexual hollyweirdo soon-to-be Senator of Minnesota some props for getting it right on BO (the gnomish, BO - "BOR", not TOTUS). Not that anyone should respect either of them.

I haven't watched and will continue not to watch FOX News until that smarmy glorified Shamwow salesman is jettisoned.

63 posted on 05/15/2009 7:37:48 AM PDT by M203M4 (A rainbow-excreting government-cheese-pie-eating unicorn in every pot.)
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To: tcrlaf

The single photo published in this article is highly suspicious. The guy who’s hanging upside down naked (the caption breathlessly says “naked” twice; obviously the British reporter was highly impressed) has a neatly trimmed beard, and there are decorative comforters on the bunk bed. This looks more like a frat room scene than any sort of prisoner abuse.

And of course they just couldn’t resist including the classic Abu Ghraib photo of the guy in the pointy hat and poncho and wires. Never a photo of some grinning jihadi holding up Nick Berg’s head, you’ll notice.


64 posted on 05/15/2009 7:38:48 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (1st call: Abbas. 1st interview: Al Arabiya. 1st energy decision: halt drilling in UT. Arabs 1st!)
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To: tcrlaf
. Further images purportedly from the 2,000 include one of a naked man covered in excrement with a guard standing in front of him.

The prisoner almost certainly did this to himself. They are taught as a tactic to smear excrement everywhere.

So what does this picture prove?

NOTHING!

65 posted on 05/15/2009 7:44:29 AM PDT by Wil H (The most destructive act of Muslim terrorism against the US was paying for 0bama's Harvard education)
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To: tcrlaf
hooded prisoners in transport planes with copies of Playboy magazine showing naked women open on their laps.

Oh, no!!! Not that!!! God help me if anyone ever does that to me. I don't think I could stand that kind of torture.

66 posted on 05/15/2009 7:44:32 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (I long for the days when advertisers didn't constantly ask about the health of my genital organs.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Leaking is an accepted political mean to an end

Screw National Security - it’s all about politics


67 posted on 05/15/2009 7:46:14 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: cripplecreek

very Clintonian


68 posted on 05/15/2009 7:46:35 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: tcrlaf
Someone photoshopped that photo. Here's the original:

ABUSE? It's only a shot of the media's favorite congressman sizing up a prospective room mate.

The real "enhanced techniques" don't begin until he passes mustard.

69 posted on 05/15/2009 7:46:36 AM PDT by drpix
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To: tcrlaf

Who had the agenda to leak them?
It’s espionage to do this IMO.


70 posted on 05/15/2009 7:47:22 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Wil H

See my post #53.


71 posted on 05/15/2009 7:47:34 AM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: vaudine

But hopefully all people will remember is that it happened on his watch.


72 posted on 05/15/2009 7:47:58 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: tiredoflaundry
That's it? A guy hanging naked from a bunk? I'll admit those pink sheets are tortuous but it's hard to believe that if there weren't any worse photos we wouldn't be seeing them right now. The paper even had to re-run an old photo... Like I wrote, this is it?
73 posted on 05/15/2009 7:48:47 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: tcrlaf
Here is one of the new pictures of torture that is out floating around the internet


74 posted on 05/15/2009 7:52:44 AM PDT by woofie
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To: cripplecreek
Yes, you did. I think there are some other people who said that publicly, Obama would change course, but then the photos would be conveniently “leaked”. This allows Obama to maintain distance and not take responsibility for the photos, while at the same time accomplishing the administration's/dems goals.
75 posted on 05/15/2009 7:55:23 AM PDT by khnyny ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: rdax

..or underpants on his head!


76 posted on 05/15/2009 7:55:25 AM PDT by SoKatt ("Change" is not a strategy!)
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To: tcrlaf

The leaks are Obambalamadingdong’s way of having plausible deniablity.

Let’s see him prosecute the leakers. tap tap tap...


77 posted on 05/15/2009 8:01:35 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If you like the Dept. of Motor Vehicles, the IRS, and the Post Office, you'll love govt Health Care)
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To: tcrlaf
Further images purportedly from the 2,000 include one of a naked man covered in excrement with a guard standing in front of him.

From what I understand, the imates at Gitmo threw feces at guards a number of times. Is this man smeared in his own body waste as a protest? They also attacked guards a number of times (using "pitiful" ploys for attention).

Such a photo is not necessarily an indication of abuse.

78 posted on 05/15/2009 8:03:26 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If you like the Dept. of Motor Vehicles, the IRS, and the Post Office, you'll love govt Health Care)
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To: flintsilver7

It is true.


79 posted on 05/15/2009 8:04:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: tcrlaf

It’s all a shell game. He wants them released and knows they will ultimately be released. But he can play the role of commander in chief and pretend he cares about national security. It’s all a game to him.


80 posted on 05/15/2009 8:04:54 AM PDT by doug from upland (10 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: brytlea

One of the men in the Abu Ghraib photos attempted to blackmail the government in exchange for a plea bargain. He didn’t get his lighter sentence so he was the 2004 source of the most famous leaked photos.

Have to wonder if any of those in the photos were “fragging” the troops with this as a form of entrapment. No one should do these deeds. But perhaps there was a bigger goal in mind and thus a reason to take pictures and document the abuse.


81 posted on 05/15/2009 8:06:32 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If you like the Dept. of Motor Vehicles, the IRS, and the Post Office, you'll love govt Health Care)
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To: woofie
ACK! Women without burqas!!!

This is an OUTRAGE!!!

82 posted on 05/15/2009 8:07:26 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If you like the Dept. of Motor Vehicles, the IRS, and the Post Office, you'll love govt Health Care)
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To: wardaddy

When will the State Department leak Obama’s supressed birth certificate?


83 posted on 05/15/2009 8:08:16 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If you like the Dept. of Motor Vehicles, the IRS, and the Post Office, you'll love govt Health Care)
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To: tcrlaf

Unless the leak was intentional -- and I don't see why Obama would intentionally allow egg on his face like this -- it would certainly appear there are those WITHIN the White House who don't agree with the Savior.

I have to wonder what else this Obama "splinter cell" will do to ensure their agenda for Change takes place at any and all costs?

84 posted on 05/15/2009 8:12:15 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: DBrow

There was also a British newspaper that had some staged photos they ran. A genuine soldier posed for “abuse” photos with real military equipment (that was not deployed) and urinated on a supposed prisoner.

Again, my questions about those who participated in these deeds are there because there ARE people who’ve fragged our side (Sgt. Akbar with a grenade attack in 2003 and others) as well as this British traitor and the editor.

We see how the Palestinians use the media war to shape public opinion (staged photo ops, phony victims, photoshopped “damage”).

Exposure and public prosecution is the way to put this down.

And why doesn’t anyone in the world ever consider the horrible deeds committed by Michael Moore’s so-called “freedom fighters” in Iraq?


85 posted on 05/15/2009 8:12:53 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If you like the Dept. of Motor Vehicles, the IRS, and the Post Office, you'll love govt Health Care)
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To: tcrlaf

How convenient, 0bama suddenly does a 180 a day before the photos are leaked.
Gotta make a big show of it right before they come out.
At least we know who the leaker is.


86 posted on 05/15/2009 8:13:02 AM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: tcrlaf
Obama has little control over those around him

Bingo! From the beginning of this unknown puppet's rise it's been obvious that he is being handled—by long time leftists and by a cabal of internationalists in the bureaucracies of the beltway.

87 posted on 05/15/2009 8:15:13 AM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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To: tcrlaf

Are you so sure he has lost control? He might very possibly want those pictures out, but does not want his name on their release. Remember what at sleaze he is. Never truthful. Wants others to lift his load.


88 posted on 05/15/2009 8:15:49 AM PDT by twigs
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To: tcrlaf

“Will no one rid me of these turbulent photos?”

[some time later]

“I didn’t MEAN leak them to the press. Really, I didn’t.”


89 posted on 05/15/2009 8:17:11 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: tcrlaf
Panties on the head!!!! OMG!!!!!


90 posted on 05/15/2009 8:17:44 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: tcrlaf
From Article: "Further images purportedly from the 2,000 include one of a naked man covered in excrement with a guard standing in front of him."

This is torture, torture, I tell you. NOT! These guys dig in their own excrement all the time and throw it at the guards. They are used to playing in it.

All Barack Hussien Obama would have had to do was issue an executive order to keep those pictures from coming out, but instead he is going to leave it up to the final decision of the court.

91 posted on 05/15/2009 8:24:27 AM PDT by Spunky (Quit breathing! You are contributing to global warming.)
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To: tcrlaf

Its all part of the plan, folks. He is solely responsible for this by even entertaining the idea at all. Having them leaked conveniently gets him off the hook but still accomplishes the goal.


92 posted on 05/15/2009 8:28:33 AM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: tcrlaf

Quel surprise!


93 posted on 05/15/2009 8:30:57 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: franklog
The images were released in Australia yesterday where they were originally obtained by the television channel SBS in the wake of the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal.

Two words: "Plausible Deniability"
94 posted on 05/15/2009 8:36:20 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: DBrow
Nobody will be able to tell, in the coming flood of images, which are real and which are not.

For propaganda purposes, nobody will care, whether they could tell or not.

95 posted on 05/15/2009 8:38:32 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: counterpunch

Okay, let me sum up the last few weeks:

Homeland Security releases a controversial report on groups who pose the greatest risk in the US.
After nearly a month on the street, Napolitano retracts the report, stating it wasn't properly vetted.

Pelosi calls for investigations on prisoner torture.
The CIA releases documents showing she was briefed.
She looks flustered in a news conference yesterday, inferring is CIA lying.

Obama denies Cheney’s request for the declassification of two documents that provide information about the effectiveness of the detainee program.
Cheney is appealing the decision -- with vigor.

Obama publicly does a 180, and says he won't release the prisoner photos, breaking a major campaign promise to his supporters.
Today, they're leaked in Australia where they were originally obtained by television channel SBS. This happens ahead of Obama’s June 4 Cairo speech.

Huh?!


96 posted on 05/15/2009 8:41:27 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Dallas59

Never forget.


97 posted on 05/15/2009 8:45:18 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Flint; StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
Right out of the Clinton playbook. Say you don’t want something done and then let one of your flying monkeys do it for you.

Yup... "leaked images". This is exactly what I expected would happen.

98 posted on 05/15/2009 8:47:35 AM PDT by nutmeg (DemocRATs: The party of tax cheats and other assorted crooks)
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To: tcrlaf

Rahm Emanuel probably had the photos released!


99 posted on 05/15/2009 8:50:27 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: BP2

The whole reason 0bama publicly did a 180 yesterday on the prisoner abuse photos was so that today the headlines would read “Obama’s bid to suppress prisoner abuse pictures fails as images are leaked.”

Notice how the headline leads by saying 0bama tried to prevent their release? He’s now the “good guy.”


100 posted on 05/15/2009 9:01:54 AM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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