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Appeals court sides with Redskins over trademark
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | May 15, 2009 | By NEDRA PICKLER

Posted on 05/15/2009 10:08:46 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

WASHINGTON – The Washington Redskins won another legal victory Friday in a 17-year fight with a group of American Indians who argue the football team's trademark is racially offensive.

The decision issued Friday by the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington doesn't address the main question of racism at the center of the case. Instead, it upholds the lower court's decision in favor of the football team on a legal technicality.

The court agreed that the seven Native Americans waited too long to challenge the trademark first issued in 1967. They initially won — the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office panel canceled the trademarks in 1999 — but they've suffered a series of defeats in the federal courts since then.

U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly overturned that decision in 2003 in part because the suit was filed decades after the first Redskins trademark was issued. The U.S. Court of Appeals then sent the case back to Kollar-Kotelly, noting that the youngest of the plaintiffs was only 1-year-old in 1967 and therefore could not have taken legal action at the time.

Kollar-Kotelly issued a new ruling last summer that rejected that argument. She wrote that the youngest plaintiff turned 18 in 1984 and therefore waited almost eight years after coming of age to join the lawsuit.

The judge did not address whether the Redskins name is offensive or racist.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: americanindians; hypersensitivity; indians; lawsuits; nativeamerican; nfl; racebaiting; redskins; trademarks; washingtonredskins
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1 posted on 05/15/2009 10:08:47 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

stare decis(sp)?


2 posted on 05/15/2009 10:09:41 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

‘racially offensive’

BS!! It is a sign of respect and admiration.


3 posted on 05/15/2009 10:09:50 AM PDT by BGHater (It's easy to be a Conservative now.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How about the Washington Goombas?


4 posted on 05/15/2009 10:11:15 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Do your duty in all things." Robert E. Lee)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The Washington Redskins won another legal victory Friday

They're a lot more successful in the courtroom than they are on the field.

5 posted on 05/15/2009 10:11:24 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Next they'll be coming after this handsome guy....


6 posted on 05/15/2009 10:12:22 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: BGHater

“‘racially offensive’

BS!! It is a sign of respect and admiration.”

You are dead wrong.

As someone with Cherokee ancestors, I find this very offensive.

Other indian based team names (Chiefs, Braves, Warriors) even ones names after tribes (FSU Seminoles) are not offensive at all, imho. They highlight a positive aspect of indian historical culture. Redskin though, is a slur. Plain and simple.

Redskin a sign of admiration? That’s so pathetic it isn’t even funny as a joke.


7 posted on 05/15/2009 10:14:54 AM PDT by Brookhaven
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To: RexBeach

I am kind of offended by the White Sox. Where can I go gets payed, yo?


8 posted on 05/15/2009 10:15:23 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (If global warming didn't exist, Al Gore would have had to invent it.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The term “Redskins’ isn’t the problem. The problem is a bunch of thin skinned “Indians” with nothing else to complain about.


9 posted on 05/15/2009 10:16:33 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: Brookhaven

“As someone with Cherokee ancestors, I find this very offensive.

Other indian based team names (Chiefs, Braves, Warriors) even ones names after tribes (FSU Seminoles) are not offensive at all, imho. They highlight a positive aspect of indian historical culture. Redskin though, is a slur. Plain and simple.”

Why is ‘red skin’ a slur? My Cherokee ancestors were never ashamed of the color of their skin.


10 posted on 05/15/2009 10:18:16 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: Brookhaven

I remember the Seminol tribe telling the NCAA to “take a hike” whey they tried to PC team names.


11 posted on 05/15/2009 10:19:18 AM PDT by ak267
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To: Puppage

Mascots should not smile.
He’s wearing make-up, feathers, AND he’s smiling.
GO HAWKTHHHH!


12 posted on 05/15/2009 10:19:49 AM PDT by Gunflint
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To: Brookhaven

‘Cherokee ancestors’

Join, the club. In fact I’m card carrying. big deal.

Redskin is not a negative term. Infact, many boy scouts book use redskins as a term of admiration.


13 posted on 05/15/2009 10:20:18 AM PDT by BGHater (It's easy to be a Conservative now.)
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To: Brookhaven
As someone with Cherokee ancestors, I find this very offensive.

Those Cherokees must have been damned prolific, or at the very least they must have raped every white woman in the country to have so many people claiming Cherokee heritage. I can never bring up the subject of American Indians without someone chiming in and claiming to be "25 percent full-blooded Cherokee" or some other such nonsense.

14 posted on 05/15/2009 10:22:08 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (A fine head of hair lends beauty to a handsome face, and terror to an ugly one.)
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To: Gunflint
LOL!

Makes no difference to me...I am a Habs fan!


15 posted on 05/15/2009 10:23:23 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Brookhaven
I find this very offensive.

What do you think of the Cleveland Indians' Chief Wahoo?

Now THAT'S red skin.

16 posted on 05/15/2009 10:23:36 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Puppage

The Red Wings are coming after that guy first.


17 posted on 05/15/2009 10:23:41 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: camle

Stare decisis


18 posted on 05/15/2009 10:24:41 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

“I can never bring up the subject of American Indians without someone chiming in and claiming to be “25 percent full-blooded Cherokee” or some other such nonsense. “

I understand what you’re saying. I was raised being told I was part Cherokee, but never took it to heart much because everyone I ran into seemed to claim the same thing.....until I really researched it and found it was true. Fact is, there are millions and millions of us who are part Cherokee.


19 posted on 05/15/2009 10:25:23 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; ...
Hey, change the official name to "Deadskins" and you only insult... Democrat voters!
20 posted on 05/15/2009 10:26:39 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: AuntB

I always though “redskin” was right up there with “injun” definitely in the slur area. Of course there is no right not to be offended, people who don’t like the team’s name should root against them (really easy to do these days because they stink), boycott them, boycott the whole league if they want, but don’t make it a legal matter.


21 posted on 05/15/2009 10:27:24 AM PDT by razorboy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The one case where I agree with the litigants in these mascot wars is the Cleveland Indians symbol which is truly an offensive caricature.


22 posted on 05/15/2009 10:27:25 AM PDT by Borges
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To: 1rudeboy
The Red Wings are coming after that guy first.

Considering my boys are currently playing golf, I can't disagree. I do think the young Hawks can skate with Detroit, though.

Let's see if Osgood is really Osgreat.

23 posted on 05/15/2009 10:27:56 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: AuntB; Brookhaven

I’m 1/4 Cherokee and I’m not offended, either!

I think thin skinned is more appropriate for some... >:-}


24 posted on 05/15/2009 10:31:02 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: blackie

Yep!


25 posted on 05/15/2009 10:33:31 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: Puppage

What’s a Hab??


26 posted on 05/15/2009 10:34:02 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Hail to the Redskins!!

As a person of Native American descent, on both sides of the family, I am NOT the least bit offended, in fact I love the Redskins.

27 posted on 05/15/2009 10:35:23 AM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: BGHater

BINGO!


28 posted on 05/15/2009 10:35:43 AM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: AuntB

I’m with you Aunt B


29 posted on 05/15/2009 10:37:13 AM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Brookhaven

That’s funny, I’m part Cherokee and it doesn’t bother me. Like the Seminole tribe that indorsed FSU usage of the tribes name for it’s football team. They are proud of it.
I would be too.


30 posted on 05/15/2009 10:38:15 AM PDT by Robbin
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To: Brookhaven

A local high school has the name ‘redskins.’ I have wondered about someone yelling, “racism.” Then dump Native Americans completely. Change the logo to redskin on the necks of cowboys. Or change to a redskined reptile like snake or lizzard. “Indians” will be forgotten as nothing more than people in old westerns.


31 posted on 05/15/2009 10:39:07 AM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: Mr. Mojo; Petronski; misterrob; big'ol_freeper; raccoonradio; warsaw44

I kind of like Chief Wahoo!

We were at Progressive Field in Cleveland (for the first time) in late April for the Boston Red Sox vs Cleveland Indians series. I was surprised that Chief Wahoo is still pretty prominent in the team stores as a mascot, but disappointed that he is not the ACTUAL mascot for the team. They had some strange pink or purple creature named "Slider", I think. Very minor league mascot, IMO. I assume they had to create Slider to downplay the un-PC Chief Wahoo.

32 posted on 05/15/2009 10:40:16 AM PDT by nutmeg (DemocRATs: The party of tax cheats and other assorted crooks)
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To: blackie
What’s a Hab??

The Montreal Canadiens. NHL hockey team

33 posted on 05/15/2009 10:45:53 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Look at the size of that center.


34 posted on 05/15/2009 10:46:30 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: nutmeg

As you may know, the team name has much to do with star player Louis Sockalexis, from the Penobscot tribe.


35 posted on 05/15/2009 10:46:41 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: AbeKrieger

How about the White Jox?


36 posted on 05/15/2009 10:47:50 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Do your duty in all things." Robert E. Lee)
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To: nutmeg
but disappointed that he is not the ACTUAL mascot for the team.

Is the Chief's image still on the Indians' caps?

37 posted on 05/15/2009 10:48:15 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Congress shall make no law(s) respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
38 posted on 05/15/2009 10:48:53 AM PDT by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: Brookhaven
Offense is undeniably in the eye of the beholder. I do not think I have a right to substitute my judgment about whether or not you should be offended. You have a right to be offended if you want to. The question is, assuming you exercise your option to be offended, should I cede to you the right to invoke the power of the law to enforce your subjective feelings against me?

You have a right to be offended, but do I not have a right to offend?


39 posted on 05/15/2009 10:51:20 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Puppage

the Hawks have the best sweaters in hockey!


40 posted on 05/15/2009 10:52:29 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: blackie

I think the name comes from Habitants Canadiennes..


41 posted on 05/15/2009 10:53:52 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: Puppage

oh, and may they prevail against the evil Redwings!


42 posted on 05/15/2009 10:56:08 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: Brookhaven
Redskin though, is a slur. Plain and simple.

"Redskin" is no more a "slur" than "Whiteskin" (me), and I do not feel slurred. Now "Whitey" or "White Boy" I would find offensive, but, as we all know, due to Free Speech, you DO NOT have the right to not be offended.

Grow a thicker skin, or you won't be able to enjoy life. You'll end up spending your life being "offended" and thinking everyone's out to get you.

43 posted on 05/15/2009 10:59:09 AM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: Brookhaven
As someone with Cherokee ancestors, I find this very offensive.

May I propose "The Washington Rednecks as a politically correct alternative. I would welcome them to my community, surely they will have a winning season sometime.

* * * * * *

Sports teams choose names to convey an image of power and fearsomeness. Not as a way to offend potential paying customers.

44 posted on 05/15/2009 11:01:32 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: rahbert
the Hawks have the best sweaters in hockey!

They always take 2nd place behind my beloved Habs in the yearly "Best Jersey" poll.

45 posted on 05/15/2009 11:01:45 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Brookhaven
A couple of years ago I went to a city council meeting where a group of Indians were protesting something. They were wearing buckskin and had the braided hair. I got to talking to them and found out I have more Indian in me than any of them (both grandmothers were Indian.)

Anyway, I don't find the term Redskin offensive, anymore than I find the term Redneck, which can also be applied to me, offensive. I thought the people at the meeting were pretty sad, as they run around playing Indian, acting like an idealized history of riding the plains and hunting buffalo is coming back.

Also, I would mention that one of the most famous Indians of all time:

was a Cowboy, and spent almost all of his career fighting the Redskins.

46 posted on 05/15/2009 11:07:35 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

These guys are in DC, no? Then rename them in honor of Congress, something along the lines of the Washington Thieves.


47 posted on 05/15/2009 11:08:25 AM PDT by Robwin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

As a Cowboy fan, I hate the Redskins (on the field), but I would be the biggest die hard ‘skin fan when it comes to them keeping their name and tradition. Hate the team, love the franchise. Isn’t that what the New Testament speaks to??


48 posted on 05/15/2009 11:10:15 AM PDT by 1L
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To: CurlyDave

When Houston got another football franchise, I was hoping that they’d go to one of the suggested names, Roughnecks, instead of the almost generic Texans. That’s one of the things that’s become boring about team mascots; almost everything is generic now.


49 posted on 05/15/2009 11:14:46 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Puppage

African-American-hawks? :)

By the way I’m proud to say I’m a Native American.

I was born in Lynn, Massachusetts, a part of America.

Thus I am a Native American.


50 posted on 05/15/2009 11:31:40 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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