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Sen. Graham is Sponsoring a Bill That Will Result in a National Anti-gun Database
GOA Email ^ | 5/15/2009 | GOA

Posted on 05/15/2009 2:18:27 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama

Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org

Friday, May 15, 2009

Do you know what your supposedly "Republican" senator is doing right now?

Well, it turns out that Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina is also leading the "hit parade" on behalf of legislation which would expand the scope of government in a way unprecedented in human history -- and which would place your most private medical data into an anti-gun database.

Hard to believe?

But there he is: Sen. Graham is right up there with certifiable liberals like left wing Oregon Democrat Ron Wyden and left wing Michigan Democrat Debbie Stabenow.

The bill is S. 391, and it is being pushed by some Republicans as an alternative to the Health Care Gun Ban that we've been warning you about.

S. 391 does a hodgepodge of things, but by far the most important one is to "solve" the problem of 48 million uninsured by taking away the right of Americans not to purchase government-approved insurance.

If you are uninsured, you would have to buy health insurance, whether you can afford it or not. If your employer is not unionized, he would have to retool your employer-provided health insurance policy to comply with government requirements.

If your employer cannot afford government-approved insurance with all of the politically correct bells and whistles, too bad. His only legal alternative is to fire you.

If you cannot afford government-approved insurance, too bad.

If you have to lose your home -- or your small business -- or your kids' college fund -- in order to pay for government-approved insurance, too bad.

And like the Massachusetts system on which it is modeled, the federally mandated insurance would inexorably revolve around a federal database of medical information that you could not opt out of.

So, remember when your kid's pediatrician asked him about your gun collection? Or when you grandfather was diagnosed with a mental disability which could disqualify him from owning a gun?

All of that will be in the federal database, which could be searched by virtually anyone in the Department of Health and Human Services -- and by BATF, by simple request.

And, although section 103 of S. 391 purports to allow you to keep the coverage you have, all employer-provided insurance which you wish to keep has to be rewritten to contain all the government-required mandates -- or you're not allowed to keep it.

ACTION: Contact Senator Graham and urge him to remove his cosponsorship from S. 391. Please use his webform at http://lgraham.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.EmailSenatorGraham
to do so (you can copy and paste the following text or type your own).

----- Pre-written letter -----

Dear Senator Graham:

In connection with S. 391 -- the Wyden-Stabenow individual insurance mandate -- apparently some people are under the delusional notion that this bill is something other than the biggest government interference in the private sector in American history.

This crazy bill would put government bureaucrats in the position of dictating the contents of virtually every insurance policy in the country -- with the sole conspicuous exception of unionized industries with collective bargaining agreements.

This bill would result in all kinds of personal information being put into a medical database. Across the nation, there have been reports that pediatricians are asking kids about their parents' gun collection. And military veterans who have been diagnosed with PTSD have already been disqualified from owning guns.

All of this information will be in the federal database, which could be searched by virtually anyone in the Department of Health and Human Services -- and by the FBI and the BATFE, by simple request.

Please do not saddle America with a massive open-ended bill like S. 391.

In short, please remove your cosponsorship from S. 391.

Sincerely,


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; communistgoals; gungrab; lindseygraham; rino; rkba; romney; romneycare
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We need to get this damn RINO out of the senate!!!!
1 posted on 05/15/2009 2:18:28 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama
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To: Joe Brower

Ping


2 posted on 05/15/2009 2:18:59 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

ping


3 posted on 05/15/2009 2:20:12 PM PDT by unkus
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To: upchuck

RINO ping!


4 posted on 05/15/2009 2:23:20 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

what a dooooooooooooosh.

SC needs to extricate him tooot sweet.


5 posted on 05/15/2009 2:23:21 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Grahmestiey has lost his mind!


6 posted on 05/15/2009 2:24:57 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Stinkin Judd Gregg is in on this too NH...

I just wrote him a scalding letter.

Out with these Jackasses, and in with limited government types.


7 posted on 05/15/2009 2:27:08 PM PDT by xmission (www.iwilldefendtheconstitution.com)
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To: Cheetahcat
The complaint is actually about the data base.

I think the data base should be purely voluntary ~ if you want your medical history on it, it goes on, otherwise it doesn't go on.

There's no reason whatsoever why there has to be a permanent medical record for you to get the care and treatment you need.

If you have something serious they're going to do all the tests and examinations you ever had all over again anyway.

8 posted on 05/15/2009 2:28:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 2nd amendment mama; upchuck; SC Swamp Fox

Oh G-d in heaven...


9 posted on 05/15/2009 2:29:26 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Israel is built on rock. Arabia is built on sand.)
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To: east1234
FYI.

*50* years, eh? ;^)

10 posted on 05/15/2009 2:30:03 PM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Graham is a dumb SOB RINO. If he wants so badly to be loved by the Left then he should drop the RINO act, and join them. Become a full member of the DA Democrat Party.

Go kissy, huggy with Spector, and grouse about us mean ol’ Conservatives while flying the flag of the Mentally Disturbed Party.

Graham’s an idiot.


11 posted on 05/15/2009 2:32:20 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: mylife; Randy Larsen

Gun-grabbing RINO *PING*


12 posted on 05/15/2009 2:32:38 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (It's only recoil)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

FLUSH!!


13 posted on 05/15/2009 2:36:41 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (The plan... 0 in power for life. At least that's what they told him.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Yes, it’s time for him to go...


14 posted on 05/15/2009 2:43:01 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Sen. Lindsey Graham?

Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!

/s


15 posted on 05/15/2009 2:43:37 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Email sent!


16 posted on 05/15/2009 2:43:52 PM PDT by republicanbred (...and when I die I'll be republican dead.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

This will result in people not getting the care they need for fear of being stigmatized forever.


17 posted on 05/15/2009 2:45:46 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: 2nd amendment mama

“.... military veterans who have been diagnosed with PTSD have already been disqualified from owning guns.”

Does anyone with more than two brain cells think that our Troops will now seek help when they may really need it the most.


18 posted on 05/15/2009 2:48:54 PM PDT by Gator113 (Weak-coward-racist-white hating-lying-traitor= Surrender Monkey in Chief-B. Hussein Obama...)
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To: muawiyah

‘There’s no reason whatsoever why there has to be a permanent medical record for you to get the care and treatment you need.”

I’m sure they’ll think of one.


19 posted on 05/15/2009 2:48:54 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Someone has a lot of photos of this guy with young boys, only thing i can think of.
Course those of Crist with young males will appear soon too.


20 posted on 05/15/2009 2:52:08 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Demint needs to walk over and cane him..repeatedly


21 posted on 05/15/2009 2:59:09 PM PDT by wheresmycheckbarry?
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To: 2nd amendment mama

bttt


22 posted on 05/15/2009 3:03:37 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: wheresmycheckbarry?

I met Sen DeMint while living in SC, and actually asked him to go down the hall and kick Graham in the butt for me. He just grinned and laughed.


23 posted on 05/15/2009 3:05:29 PM PDT by jimmango
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To: neverdem

[ping]


24 posted on 05/15/2009 3:05:46 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power with a passion for evil.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

It’s up to “We the People,” to put an end to these out of control piss ants. I am really tired putting letters and e-mails out. Stand strong America firearm owners and don’t back down.


25 posted on 05/15/2009 3:08:35 PM PDT by JamesA (He who hesitates is lost.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; alarm rider; Alex1977; at bay; Babsig; BILL_C; bnelson44; Clintonfatigued; ...
We need to get this damn RINO out of the senate!!!! M/i>

I agree. Unfortunately, the frigging RINOs here in SC just reelected him.

  Lindsey Ping
  "Republican by day, Democrat by night."

  Add me to the list. / Remove me from the list.


26 posted on 05/15/2009 3:25:36 PM PDT by upchuck (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office.)
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To: muawiyah
“The complaint is actually about the data base.
I think the data base should be purely voluntary ~ if you want your medical history on it, it goes on, otherwise it doesn't go on.

There's no reason whatsoever why there has to be a permanent medical record for you to get the care and treatment you need.

If you have something serious they're going to do all the tests and examinations you ever had all over again anyway.”

Does this moron just have nothing to do? Medical records would be a personal matter,

27 posted on 05/15/2009 3:36:43 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

RINOs are actually the ones responsible for destroying our nation. They should be checking leftist intentions, but instead are facilitating them. They defeat the checks and balances.


28 posted on 05/15/2009 3:44:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: upchuck; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Norman Bates

I posted a few threads for his primary opponent, Buddy Witherspoon. I even supported the Democrat (a Libertarian Republican Ron Paul supporter) who ran against Graham in the general election.


29 posted on 05/15/2009 4:03:55 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The McCain/Palin ticket was like a Kangaroo, stronger on the bottom than at the top)
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To: bamahead

I wish Graham had lost last year.


30 posted on 05/15/2009 4:04:44 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The McCain/Palin ticket was like a Kangaroo, stronger on the bottom than at the top)
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To: Joe Boucher

Course those of Crist with young males will appear soon too.
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Some people om Key West took pics of Crist. They were posted on You Tube and removed within 5 minutes.


31 posted on 05/15/2009 4:23:52 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
It's way past time the little Fairy joins his buddy, Arlen.

sw

32 posted on 05/15/2009 4:28:12 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: 50cal Smokepole

I am telling you it is time to kick all the bums out!


33 posted on 05/15/2009 4:54:09 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

thanks, bfl


34 posted on 05/15/2009 4:59:30 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Cheetahcat; muawiyah
Actually, the database already exists to a great extent. It's called the “MIB”. Medical Information Board.

I worked in the insurance industry for a couple of years. Just about anytime an individual applies for health insurance or life insurance, a background check is done with the MIB. The MIB has records of all previous medical claims. Insurance companies use this to evaluate risk and check on preexisting conditions that were not stated on your insurance application.

If you've been treated for heart conditions or cancer or anything serious, the information is out there and potential insurers can get it.

35 posted on 05/15/2009 5:01:17 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: 2111USMC
If you've been treated for heart conditions or cancer or anything serious, the information is out there and potential insurers can get it.

Then as usual ole Pantie waist gramistey is helping the enemy.

36 posted on 05/15/2009 5:20:10 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
And military veterans who have been diagnosed with PTSD have already been disqualified from owning guns.

www.cjcj.org/files/another_emerging.pdf

Another Emerging “Storm”:Iraq and Afghanistan Veteranswith PTSD inThe Criminal Justice System

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2008/04/17/37459.aspx

Nearly 20 percent of military service members who have returned from Iraq and Afghanistan - 300,000 in all - report symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder or major depression, yet only slight more than half have sought treatment, according to a new RAND Corporation study. [excerpt]

The RAND report recommends the military create a system that would allow service members to receive mental health services confidentially in order to ease concerns about negative career repercussions. [excerpt]

Now, combine the big push for PTSD diagnosis with the recent DHS "terrorist" report.... add in bills like this one..... THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMMMMMM

Now, the Left wouldn't be wanting to disarm a certain portion of the population would they? Certain portions of the population that tend to hold things like an oath to the Constitution seriously? Certain portions of the population that have extensive training with firearms? Certain portions of the population that tend to vote against them?

Don't worry, I'm not wearing a tinfoil hat..... I traded it some time ago for Kevlar.

37 posted on 05/15/2009 6:21:21 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Carry_Okie

Thanks for the ping.


38 posted on 05/15/2009 6:32:11 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; ...
Again...the GOP is being run into the ditch by clueless RINOS.



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!
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39 posted on 05/15/2009 6:42:23 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
Miss Lindsay may be a Graham, but ain't no cracker.
40 posted on 05/15/2009 7:03:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: 2111USMC
If you've been treated for heart conditions or cancer or anything serious, the information is out there and potential insurers can get it.

That happened to me when my employer changed insurance. All of a sudden I started receiving weird letters telling me to "check this and this box, sign and return" regarding my visits to a chiropractor.

I took it to my chiropractor, and he told me they had found out that I had been treated for a back injury eight years before. It was a good thing I talked to him about it, because I almost walked right into their little trap.

41 posted on 05/15/2009 7:28:41 PM PDT by ponygirl ("Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.")
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Look in any cesspool and you'll see and smell all you need to know about LG.
42 posted on 05/15/2009 8:02:50 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

FYI: The 2nd Amendment is SELF-incorporated to all government entities at every level. It is MORE ABSOLUTE than the 1st Amendment, or any of the others, because the wording forbids not only CONGRESS, but ANYONE from infringing on it. The 1st says “Congress shall make no law...”. The 2nd say “shall NOT be infringed!” Period! End of debate!


43 posted on 05/15/2009 8:27:37 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: 2harddrive
Agreed. A lot of courts, including Marshall's SCOTUS in 1833, over looked the fact that the text of the legislation used to Amend the Constitution with the Bill of Rights included the clause "to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz." in the Preamble.

This means the States, and Congress, both ratified the "shall not be infringed" language as well as the "laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding" in the Supremacy Clause.

To say a Right, which the Founders clearly defined, could be "infringed" via some other Federal power, or ignored outright by the States... is the very height of the lunacy that is killing our Republic.

44 posted on 05/15/2009 8:38:16 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy

Oh, Billy... your boy is at it again.


45 posted on 05/15/2009 9:35:59 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I mourn the loss of South Carolina as a one of states that respected States Rights.

R.I.P. So Car................


46 posted on 05/15/2009 10:07:41 PM PDT by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free....)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Many of us in S.C. tried to mount a primary challenge to Graham but it didn’t gain much steam. I agree, though, he needs to go. He has cut too many deals with the devil to be considered one of us.


47 posted on 05/15/2009 10:22:42 PM PDT by Welshman007
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To: Vaquero

They had a chance in November and punted.


48 posted on 05/15/2009 11:03:25 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: fieldmarshaldj
If true, that would be unusual, since he's almost always solid on the gun stuff. Both the NRA and GOA give him solid As year after year, so I'd be surprised if he's going wobbly on them. If so it's time to write Lindsey Graham and raise hell.

Could be worse though, we could have your boy in that Senate seat cutting all funds for the troops and sponsoring a national apology tour for Al-Quada. ;-)

Honestly, backing a Dennis Kuchinich-type Paulbot...that's low. But thankfully, I know that in no other race would you even THINK of such an action. Talk about putting personal revengance ahead of your political views.

49 posted on 05/15/2009 11:41:29 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

Damn, Billy. Is there ANYTHING this creep can do that will turn you off of him ? Yup, I endorsed Conley and I’d do it again as long as this creepy RINO jackass remains his opponent.


50 posted on 05/15/2009 11:54:39 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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