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Newropeans are predicting economic collapse in June 2009?
Leap 2020 ^ | 05/16/09 | Kackikat

Posted on 05/16/2009 3:35:39 PM PDT by Kackikat

http://www.leap2020.eu/Open-letter-London-G20-Summit-Last-chance-before-global-geopolitical-dislocation_a3010.html

This OPEN LETTER was written in March, 2009 about the G20 Summit. I just found it, and was shocked to read the small print on advice that a new global currency change from the US dollar was a step to prevent a June, 2009 collapse.

(Excerpt) Read more at leap2020.eu ...


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The above are the links of who is predicting all of this, from Leap 2020 based on an OPEN LETTER that was written to the G 20. They claimed if the letter wasn't followed completely that a global part 5 collapse would take place in June, 2009.

The WEIRD part is that the letter is describing what our new administration is actually doing, along with some of the other countries. Good grief!

If this was posted at time of the G20 Summit Please let me know, however I did not see it. Anyone this confident that a collapse is coming in June, 2009 and has been right for several years must have trillions of dollars to jerk in and out of the stock market, don't you think??

I first thought of George Soros, but the global implications made me think of a joint venture by many who control more money than Soros. He spent billions getting this Admin elected.

Anyone else read this previously? Any thoughts??

1 posted on 05/16/2009 3:35:39 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

Looks like something written by Soros.


2 posted on 05/16/2009 3:39:57 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Kackikat

The Left would love this to happen.

But alas, it won’t.

Certainly, the global economy is getting worse. But a collapse is ludicrous.


3 posted on 05/16/2009 3:40:30 PM PDT by whitedog57
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To: whitedog57
But a collapse is ludicrous.

That same comment was probably heard in Greece, Rome, Egypt, Spain, Portugal, Germany, and in the late Soviet Union. (Just to name a few.)

4 posted on 05/16/2009 3:44:04 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Kackikat

There is a very long radio show program where a guy explains where the depression goes from covert to overt on June 10th.

Let me see if I can find it.


5 posted on 05/16/2009 3:45:44 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: Kackikat

This is all about endless borrowing, from individuals to governments - particularly governments.

As long as “government” can print money to borrow more this will happen.


6 posted on 05/16/2009 3:47:20 PM PDT by DB
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To: Kackikat

I just got done spending a few thousand on guns and ammo this week. With the defense nearly complete, I may sure up the food and water supplies. We are good in both areas, but I’m more inclined to go more overkill on food/water than weapons. Your family can’t eat a gun.


7 posted on 05/16/2009 3:47:31 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: OafOfOffice

I’d love to hear it.

There is an article on the newropeans MAGAZINE website from 17 April 2009 about Global Systemic Crisis.. Summer 2009..here is link:

http://www.newropeans-magazine.org/content/blogcategory/74/87/


8 posted on 05/16/2009 3:50:10 PM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it s not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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To: KoRn

Amen, and use ammo sparingly in case more won’t be available.


9 posted on 05/16/2009 3:51:10 PM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it s not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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To: GingisK

True, and most people do not know that speculators run up oil prices, and if a group of newropeans want to put billions in and then jerk them out of our stock market,,,,it will have a huge impact and could start a selling frenzy. It’s been done before.


10 posted on 05/16/2009 3:52:42 PM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it s not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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To: Kackikat
Been thinking and saying this for a while now.

All actions currently being taken by the Administration are setting the wrong stakes in motion. The US Dollar is an empty shell, fiat money, basically now being counterfeited by our own reserve. The dollar is not backed by a tangible commodity, but by the work ethic of the American people. That ethic has been and is being systematically destroyed. By creating a nation dependent on government, instead of independent from government...we have sealed the fate of billions of people around the globe.

You, nor a government, can place a fiat-value on work ethic. By attempting to do so, you create at minimum serfs and at worst slaves. Only the individual can value his ethic.

Right now our enemies are placing their ‘values’ into commodities. One is oil and the other is gold. Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela are hording gold and gold mines. There is a reason for this and it is because of the impending collapse of the US dollar. By switching back to a world gold standard, our dollar collapses. There will be too many dollars in circulation verses our gold reserves. If we truly still have anything in Ft. Knox. Google a search for gold reserves Ft. Knox and you will discover a few tall-tales about where the gold really is.

11 posted on 05/16/2009 3:55:24 PM PDT by EBH (May God Save the Republic!)
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To: KoRn

But a good gun can hunt. LOL


12 posted on 05/16/2009 3:56:31 PM PDT by EBH (May God Save the Republic!)
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To: whitedog57

Certainly, the global economy is getting worse. But a collapse is ludicrous.
*****
Yep...and not even God could sink the Titanic!


13 posted on 05/16/2009 3:59:23 PM PDT by briarbey b (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Kackikat
most people do not know that speculators run up oil prices

Everybody I know knows that. I bet most people know that. I bet there isn't anything most people can do to prevent that.

14 posted on 05/16/2009 4:00:47 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Kackikat

I have a quiet growing sense of panic. We keep reading these articles about financial collapses, here, there, and everywhere.

SOMEONE, ANYONE, tell us what it means, bottom line, no holds-barred, end of story for each situation.

Yes, I’ve read that blog out of Argentina or where ever it was. Under what circumstances would that happen here, though??? GAHHHHHH!


15 posted on 05/16/2009 4:03:06 PM PDT by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: whitedog57

We’re 12 Trillion in debt, and China is going to start buying less of our debt.

Reality is sinking in.

maybe not total collapse but we’ll never see 4.5% unemployment for a long time imho


16 posted on 05/16/2009 4:04:15 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (A woman will be the next President; I hope it's Palin instead of HRC.)
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To: EBH
The US Dollar is an empty shell, fiat money, basically now being counterfeited by our own reserve. The dollar is not backed by a tangible commodity

Is THIS why we haven't used our huge oil or shale reserves? So we'll HAVE a commodity when the entire world collapses?

Also, the fact is, if we go down, the entire rest of the world goes down. Harder. BO is doing nothing to prevent our going down. How long before some foreign power attempts to (God forbid) take him out?

17 posted on 05/16/2009 4:07:31 PM PDT by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: FrogMom

What blog out of Argentina?


18 posted on 05/16/2009 4:08:57 PM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it s not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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To: EBH

You said — But a good gun can hunt. LOL

Hunt what? There won’t be anything to hunt except field mice, once the marauding bands get through with anything alive and moving... :-)


19 posted on 05/16/2009 4:09:13 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Finalapproach29er
We’re 12 Trillion in debt, and China is going to start buying less of our debt.

I thought they had already drawn the line in the sand and said they would not buy any more. And are divesting themselves of the American dollar tokens they have, buying hard assets like gold mines.

20 posted on 05/16/2009 4:09:21 PM PDT by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Kackikat

Bump


21 posted on 05/16/2009 4:10:23 PM PDT by Nipfan (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it - H L Mencken)
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To: GingisK

I apologize, it should have read most democras do not know, etc...because if you listen to the liberal media (I don’t but family members keep telling me) they are saying we are on the mend and our markets will be fine, and it’s all being fixed...HOGWASH.

No, there isn’t anything anyone can do to prevent that, you are correct.


22 posted on 05/16/2009 4:12:00 PM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it s not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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To: Kackikat

The Bilderburgers are meeting this weekend in Greece. They’ll take care of it, we don’t have anything to worry about.

But really...
What does this really mean? Do companies collapse? Is my 401k worth nothing? Should I clean out my 401k now even with the penalty before I lose it all?


23 posted on 05/16/2009 4:13:30 PM PDT by vanilla swirl
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To: whitedog57

What’s ludicrous, a collapse of the economy or a collapse of the dollar?

You couldn’t orchestrate a more perfect collapse of the dollar. When that happens, it will be dumped as the world’s reserve currency.

When that happens, the economy does in fact collapse.

Go ahead and play the market if you want to. Buy more real estate.

I don’t see how it can be avoided at this point.


24 posted on 05/16/2009 4:17:02 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The most dangerous fascists are those with a warm smile and soothing voice.)
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To: FrogMom
Is THIS why we haven't used our huge oil or shale reserves? So we'll HAVE a commodity when the entire world collapses?

No, unfortunately at least under this administration it will be used too control the masses, not protect our freedom. Remember under Bush the unease he put in motion by lifting the oil ban? Other countries understood if we would drill here, drill now we remain an independent, strong country. 0bama on the other hand doesn't have or want that independent spirit running uncontrolled by the US Socialist Government.

Also, the fact is, if we go down, the entire rest of the world goes down. Harder.

Old perceptions die hard on this one. Unfortunately you may be mistaken. New superpowers are already fomenting alliances and means of stability. Unlike those Americans insulated in their own propaganda news cycle, foreign governments are taking the steps necessary to protect their countries and peoples. As noted in my original post those entities are listed as well as the actions they have already taken.

25 posted on 05/16/2009 4:18:03 PM PDT by EBH (May God Save the Republic!)
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To: vanilla swirl

Go to Sovereign Society or some other offshore investment firm who has no income to get from your investments, and read what these economists and investors are saying...you may want to check out some options. Stay away from those who have a vested interest in your money, for they will give you a rosy picture.


26 posted on 05/16/2009 4:20:36 PM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it s not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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To: Kackikat

I just got the Cheaper Than Dirt catalog and they’re asking $980 for 1,000 rounds of Lake City .223. That’s nearly a dollar a round. No gouging there, I’m sure.


27 posted on 05/16/2009 4:22:38 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (I long for the days when advertisers didn't constantly ask about the health of my genital organs.)
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To: FrogMom

ROFLMTO,,,,our natural resources are like cookies in the cookie jar with the wicked witch of the west watching us starve to death, and refusing to let us have one....So unless we get someone with some common sense we will be walking right overtop of all that oil, and no gas to use or maybe $10 gallon.


28 posted on 05/16/2009 4:23:17 PM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it s not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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To: EBH

I’ve heard rumors that gold in Ft Knox is just rumors?? Is that what you are referring to?


29 posted on 05/16/2009 4:31:02 PM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it s not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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To: Kackikat

http://www.fgmr.com/right2know.htm


30 posted on 05/16/2009 4:35:38 PM PDT by EBH (May God Save the Republic!)
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To: Kackikat
Before we all get hysterical about this stuff, remember we have enemies who would love for us to believe the Super Power of the World is over. We need to research and keep a open mind but if this person has been writing forever on this, why has no one brought it out publically? Listen to the mediafire radio show below.

It appears this Frank Biancheri has been warning this is going on since 1945.

http://www.leap2020.eu/English_r25.html

http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/franck-biancheri-understanding-the-next-phase-of-the-global-systemic-crisis/

http://www.newropeans.eu/spip.php?article388

Here is the radio show I came across about a crisis June 3rd. It's way long and I never got through it all. I disregarded it as too bizzarro.

http://www.mediafire.com/?hz2nzkt1ijm

USA has Two Options to Save its Economy: Declare Default or Trigger a War

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=10392

Well, obama all of a sudden told a group of people we could not continue borrowing.

Biden promised a generated crisis within 6 months.

And June 11 obama has a court date.

These are foreigners speaking out this is going to happen. I don't trust them. They want new world order and our money to make their life easier. But I don't trust obama at all. Biden, Axelrod, obama have all spoken of global and new world order.

I beleive the economy crisis was created by obama's thugs. But they do refuse to look at history and see what throwing money at the crisis did to prolong the depression.

I guess it is possible obama and his thugs created the crisis to make sure their New World Order agenda goes through during his first term.

Hopefully someone will give us some facts and say no way this is true.

31 posted on 05/16/2009 4:39:50 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: Kackikat

Access to the depository is restricted. Only two presidents have ever visited - Franklin Roosevelt and Harry S. Truman. A Presidential order is required to gain access.


32 posted on 05/16/2009 4:41:08 PM PDT by EBH (May God Save the Republic!)
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To: Finalapproach29er

The mere fact that we rely on China to buy our debt is a disgrace. Twenty years ago, we were rich and China was poor. Now the tables have turned. Why? Because they produce things and we do not. And we did it to ourselves.


33 posted on 05/16/2009 4:42:47 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: FrogMom
Is THIS why we haven't used our huge oil or shale reserves? So we'll HAVE a commodity when the entire world collapses?

We have not used oil shale because dems love environmentalist more than people. Because dems want no drilling on THEIR land. The same reason dems are protecting delta smelt over farmers and food.

One other reason is burning the shale would make the oil very costly. More costly than buying it from OPEC. They need to find ways to make it easier and less costly. Until they are allowed to do that it will remain too costly.

34 posted on 05/16/2009 4:47:49 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: EBH

Yes, but there are military guards, and they say they are not guarding anything..nothing there??? Don’t know, it’s just rumors.

ANYWAY...GUESS WHAT? The Newropeans are on Facebook..who knew. 300 plus members; and here is link to an article from one who thinks EUROPE should take our place as leader of the world..hahahahaha Good luck with that!

http://www.euractiv.com/en/eu-elections/new-party-trans-european-politics-boost-eu-world-power/article-181986


35 posted on 05/16/2009 4:49:25 PM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it s not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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To: Kackikat
What blog out of Argentina?

Grab a cup of coffee, it's a long read. http://ferfal.blogspot.com/2008/10/thoughts-on-urban-survival-2005.html

36 posted on 05/16/2009 4:49:29 PM PDT by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Kackikat

After the US is bankrupt and broken all it will end

up being is the NWO`s gun for hire. Expertise in weapons

is all it will be known for and be paid to be the wrold`s

cop.


37 posted on 05/16/2009 4:56:44 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: KoRn

No, but you can take other people’s food with one...

Enslave Dixie, R/B


38 posted on 05/16/2009 4:57:54 PM PDT by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: rbg81
“The mere fact that we rely on China to buy our debt is a disgrace. Twenty years ago, we were rich and China was poor. Now the tables have turned. Why? Because they produce things and we do not. And we did it to ourselves.”

NO it was a Rat the Bent Clinton who did it Via MFN China and GW slept at the helm letting it continue Much too worried about his Compassionate war and Gods Children...

39 posted on 05/16/2009 4:58:40 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Star Traveler

Would that Pelosi’s protected field mice we just spent millions on?


40 posted on 05/16/2009 4:59:16 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: rbg81

Because Bill Clinton sold them nuclear.


41 posted on 05/16/2009 5:04:06 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: Kackikat

good find!


42 posted on 05/16/2009 5:06:11 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: Bobkk47

Well, if we do collapse our insurance companies are standing bold even when offered 22 billion of our tax money. It is never ending.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124240511368324329.html


43 posted on 05/16/2009 5:13:21 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: Kackikat

So we are a bankrupt country with a shrinking agricultural base, virtually no means of manufacturing production, and an economy primarily based on financial instruments...

What could go wrong?


44 posted on 05/16/2009 5:41:55 PM PDT by IDRATHERNOT
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To: Kackikat

“Amen, and use ammo sparingly in case more won’t be available.”

There’s lots of ammo available if you think outside the box and go get it.


45 posted on 05/16/2009 5:49:06 PM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: Star Traveler

Hunt the libtards who got us into this mess when the shite finally hits the fan.


46 posted on 05/16/2009 6:11:35 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Kackikat

Who/what is LEAP2020?


47 posted on 05/16/2009 6:17:38 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: expatpat

It’s a website where newropeans write about global issues.


48 posted on 05/16/2009 6:18:58 PM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it s not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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To: IDRATHERNOT

I love a fascitious person, and you are right on.


49 posted on 05/16/2009 6:20:10 PM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it s not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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To: EBH

The dollar is not backed by a tangible commodity, but by the work ethic of the American people. That ethic has been and is being systematically destroyed. By creating a nation dependent on government, instead of independent from government...we have sealed the fate of billions of people around the globe.

Bingo! As seen on other posts here, slowly even this supposedly conservative website is showing signs of understanding.

The independent wealth of the United States is (was) to some degree in its work and entrepreneurial ethic (free enterprise), which of course is being annhilated by the Left, but also, to an equal or greater degree, in its geographic resources, that is, energy, both fossil, nuclear, and renewable, and of course a few other resources, arable land, harbors, coastlines.

How obvious is that?

The reason for the energy capital is straight thermodynamics, so far beyond the phony Nobel economics of Princeton, Harvard, and arrogant jerks, that they will never admit it (Ego!!).

It is also obvious that Barack Obama and his handlers are just plain Leftists, people so consumed by their need for social self importance that logic, truth, science, are simply non-entities except as manipulated agents for deception and self power. They need to deny all options of independence. The LEFT is the need to manipulate others, or alternatively, an acquiescence of serfdom to handouts, because of the inability to produce anything of independent value.

How obvious is that?

In that sense The Suntrade Institute, and Johnny Suntrade conjure no explicit personal hate for Barack Obama, just that he is a sinister joke, employed through his own narcissistic EGO (like Hollywood stars), by a much more sinister background cabal, e.g. the Council on Foreign Relations.

Through some ungodly mechanism, which we have not quite yet identified, that cabal has captured the Media institutions, although we think it has something to do with the fact that an obsequious, sycophantic population, worthless and lazy, will still indulge (pay for) in a Media omnipresence. (Sheeple?)

How obvious is that?

Insights are welcome.

Johnny Suntrade

50 posted on 05/16/2009 6:24:03 PM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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