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Palin is no Dan Quayle
http://www.timesunion.com/ ^ | Monday, May 11, 2009 | By JOAN VENNOCHI

Posted on 05/16/2009 6:00:44 PM PDT by Maelstorm

Everyone is piling on Sarah Palin, even though she will never be president of the United States.

The Alaska governor is everyone's favorite foil, from the left-wing Huffington Post to the ever-posturing Mitt Romney. John McCain, the Republican presidential nominee who cynically chose her as his running mate, now snubs her with relish.

They all act like she has a real chance to win the White House, when they all know the truth. When it comes to being taken seriously by the general electorate as a potential president, it's as over for her as it was for Dan Quayle.

Quayle was doomed even after he served as vice president. He was the heartbeat away from the first President Bush, but could never overcome the perception that he lacked gravitas.

Palin only ran for vice president; she never made it from Wasilla to Washington. And her problem is bigger than Quayle's, because it extends to her family.

From the moment Palin appeared on the national scene as a surprise pick for vice president, her family attracted critical attention. Palin had to fight off Internet-spawned rumors that her youngest child, Trig, who was born with Down syndrome, was really her daughter's. Then came the real news. Bristol Palin, her 17-year-old daughter, was unwed and pregnant, despite her mother's abstinence-only platform.

Palin weathered those headlines and others about her snowmobiling husband, Todd. As the campaign moved forward, she was undercut more by her own performance in a series of nationally televised interviews.

She was a major turnoff to the very voters she was supposed to attract — Hillary Rodham Clinton's female supporters.

Palin is still extremely popular with the hard-core conservative base and was recently named to the National Council for a New America, a group aimed at rebranding the GOP. Palin made Time magazine's list of influential people, causing Romney to crack: "But was that the issue on the most beautiful people or the most influential people?"

Romney is smarter and more accomplished than Palin, and just as good-looking. But Palin has something he lacks: a core set of unwavering conservative principles. It gives her an early advantage with Republican primary voters.

Palin faces an ongoing family soap opera that continues to undercut her political message. Bristol Palin broke up with Levi Johnston, the father of their child.

The line Palin walks as a mother of five and new grandmother continues to trip her up as a presidential candidate.

That makes her an easy target for Democrats and Republicans, who enjoy running against her.

Joan Vennochi writes for the Boston Globe. Her e-mail address is vennochi@globe.com.


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"Romney is smarter and more accomplished than Palin, and just as good-looking?"

I'll never ever vote for Romney and the GOP have left us in a position where there is absolutely nothing to lose this next election. If Palin runs I'm supporting her because of her honesty, her integrity, and those pesky core conservative principles that people in the Romney camp are uncomfortable with. We've had enough of soft rich Republicans who change their values more ease than they change their underpants.


1 posted on 05/16/2009 6:00:44 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm
Everyone is piling on Sarah Palin, even though she will never be president of the United States.

You never know.

People said David Axelrod would never be President of The United States, but look.

2 posted on 05/16/2009 6:04:45 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Maelstorm

Palin is a lot smarter than people give her credit. A heck of a lot smarter than the reporters who ridicule her.


3 posted on 05/16/2009 6:05:23 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Maelstorm
Romney is smarter and more accomplished than Palin, and just as good-looking. But Palin has something he lacks: a core set of unwavering conservative principles. It gives her an early advantage with Republican primary voters.

You left out the best part! Sarah is a threat to this woman writer from BOSTON!

4 posted on 05/16/2009 6:05:33 PM PDT by WVKayaker ( God said, 'Cancel Program GENESIS.' The universe ceased to exist.- Arth. C. Clarke's shortest story)
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To: Maelstorm

Women who are critical of Palin are so petty and undercut their whole attitude of woman are smart...The ONLY reason she’s been maligned and attacked relentlessly is because she is A STRONG CONSERVATIVE who stands for traditional American values. The liberals hate her and even some republicans don’t like her No Nonsense style...What everyone SHOULD be looking at is her record as a solid governor of a hugely prosperous state! Maybe by 2012 America will have grown sick of our leaders being INEPT at spending OUR MONEY and actually VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO WILL MANAGE IT WELL!!


5 posted on 05/16/2009 6:06:55 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: Maelstorm

Nice picture, and a great comment. Palin makes Romney look like Huntsman, all ego and no substance. When Palin starts her serious bid in early or mid-2011 then support for her will grow like a sunflower.

As for Mitt?
“Mitt’s Ado About Nothing”


6 posted on 05/16/2009 6:08:01 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: Maelstorm
Dan Quayle is no Dan Quayle as conveyed by the MSM.

He's much better.

The MSM IS still the MSM however.

7 posted on 05/16/2009 6:08:40 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: Maelstorm

...”even though she will never be president of the United States.”

It’s obvious that someone is afraid that she can be.


8 posted on 05/16/2009 6:09:22 PM PDT by Semper Mark (I detect a fowl odor emanating from OUR White House...must be chicken feathers.)
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To: Maelstorm
I believe that Sarah Palin will be the next President of the United States. (I'm saying this so that I can always claim to be the first prognosticator to get things right in 2012)
9 posted on 05/16/2009 6:09:38 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Palin/Bachman 2012: Conservative Viagra)
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To: BlueStateBlues

I worry about Mitt only in that he has the money to really screw things up again. He won’t win because he can’t win without us. He is too much of a government insider. He doesn’t offer anything new and parrots the left on everything from global warming to health care. I’m not interested in a parrot for President.


10 posted on 05/16/2009 6:10:15 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Some people hold to intentions dearly because at the end of the day they have nothing else to offer.)
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To: Maelstorm

If Palin runs I am devoting more time and effort and money to help her get elected than I have ever done in my life.

I hope she gets involved in the 2010 race to point out the RINO’s she thinks should lose IN THE PRIMARIES

Folks..GET INVOLVED IN THE PRIMARIES!! (Palin did, and look where she got!)

YOur vote is worth 1000 times more in the primaries, and IS THE ONLY WAY to keep us from having to choose between a donkey and a rino again


11 posted on 05/16/2009 6:10:21 PM PDT by Mr. K (physically unabel to proofreed (<---oops))
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To: Maelstorm
they fear Palin,no doubt,I think the media is on a seek and destroy mission ,as a dem operative,they will hound anyone who has a chance at unseating obama,her power lies in being a draw for us common folk,whether as V.P. or P.O.T.U.S.she can pull people to her side or her allies’s side.
12 posted on 05/16/2009 6:10:39 PM PDT by coalman (type to slow to be relevant,but I try)
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To: Maelstorm

13 posted on 05/16/2009 6:11:01 PM PDT by thatdewd (2012 is coming soon...and THEY know it! THEY are afraid.)
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To: Maelstorm

Never? Wanna bet paychecks on that, Joan?

Wait—don’t answer that. You work for the Globe. You might not actually have a paycheck much longer.


14 posted on 05/16/2009 6:14:14 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Maelstorm

I don’t worry about him winning the early primaries. Palin will have the crowds and the support. And the press, for all the wrong reasons, will push Palin. The press will also undermine Romney because they know who he really is, all hat and no horse, but someone who trys to turn his hat into a horse when it serves his purpose.

Romney, history, although he’ll be kicking around a bit. But Palin has the smart people lining up behind her campaign, and this time she will have the power and will surprise the nation when she emerges fully Sarah.


15 posted on 05/16/2009 6:15:53 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: Mr. K

I feel the same way. I’m even more motivated by those who are trying to reinvent the GOP as a more moderate party. The press can attack her and insiders can roll their eyes but Sarah isn’t going away. Sarah represents something that is special, like finding life on Mars.


16 posted on 05/16/2009 6:16:12 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Some people hold to intentions dearly because at the end of the day they have nothing else to offer.)
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To: Maelstorm
Sarah Palin has proven to be sui generis among vice presidential nominees.

How many vice presidential nominees have ever outdrawn the top of the ticket in public interest, media interest, and grassroots support?

How many defeated vice presidential nominees saw their political profile and capital increase following their defeat?

When has a defeated vice presidential candidate attracted more attention than the winning candidate well after the election?

Sarah Palin might not be the next President, but her fate will not be that of the usual defeated running mate: swift exile into political obscurity.

17 posted on 05/16/2009 6:16:50 PM PDT by Loyalist (Don't like slavery? Don't own one!)
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To: Maelstorm
Dan Quayle was no Dan Quayle.

Quayle was a solid conservative, a smart guy, and good politician. He also was the resume-candidate compared to the current occupant of the White House. He was a multiple term Congressman. He won his Senate seat by knocking off Evan Bayh's father, who no one else in Indiana politics believed could be beaten before 1978. He won reelection by a landslide. Yes, his family had some money, but he wasn't super rich. Quayle never lost an election until 1992, when his running mate decided to renege on a new new taxes pledge and Ross Perot decided to crash the party.

Quayle was victim of character assasination by the press, and was too genuinely decent to respond to the snarky "You're no Jack Kennedy" line with smack-down like "That's true. I'm faithful to my wife." If the press made as big a deal about Obama thinking there were 57 states as they did of Quayle mispelling potato, we wouldn't be stuck with Dear Leader for the next 3 2/3 years.

18 posted on 05/16/2009 6:17:34 PM PDT by CaptainMorgantown
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To: BlueStateBlues

The people we have to worry about are the same people who lifted up Fred Thompson only to stomp on him. Romney really played a big roll in that. He likes to attack from the peripheral.


19 posted on 05/16/2009 6:17:46 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Some people hold to intentions dearly because at the end of the day they have nothing else to offer.)
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To: EGPWS

Dan is a very smart man. In an age where good looking means your very smart and no one is looking under the hood to see what is there, We get a paint job.

Trouble people - lots of it coming soon


20 posted on 05/16/2009 6:18:25 PM PDT by reefdiver (Freedom - From Govt. - Educators - CNN)
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To: Mr. K

Until the GOP denies Independents a vote in our primaries, it won’t matter how involved we conservatives get, we’ll still end up with a POS RINO.


21 posted on 05/16/2009 6:19:12 PM PDT by ponygirl ("Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.")
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To: Maelstorm
Palin faces an ongoing family soap opera that continues to undercut her political message. Bristol Palin broke up with Levi Johnston, the father of their child.

Carter faces an ongoing family soap opera that continues to undercut his political message. His brother Billy has a propensity for unzipping and relieving himself without regard to his surroundings.

Clinton faces an ongoing family soap opera that continues to undercut his political message. His brother Roger has been convicted of possession of cocaine, dealing cocaine and conspiracy to distribute cocaine.

Obama faces an ongoing family soap opera that continues to undercut his political message. His father Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was an alcoholic, wife-abusing bigamist. When he married Barack Junior's mother he already had a wife and children in Kenya. At the time Barack Jr. was conceived his mother, Ann Dunham, and Barack senior were not yet married.

22 posted on 05/16/2009 6:19:22 PM PDT by Yankee
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To: Maelstorm

Gov. Palin last year had a baby with Downs Syndrome,
Her oldest son and his unit left for the War in Iraq, Her oldest dau. had an unexpected pregnancy, and Gov. Palin
was nominated to run as Vice Pres.

In the meantime the Left Wing media and Left Wing Pols, bashed her , she was a threat as a Conservative Republican.

Gov. Palin Gave here acceptance speech at the convention
without a teleprompter as it was broke.

Gov. Palin drew huge crowds all over and energized them
and stayed cool and focused while being bashed by the Left.


23 posted on 05/16/2009 6:20:47 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Maelstorm
Joan Vennochi writes for the Boston Globe.

Damn, it must suck for Joan, knowing she'll likely be out of a job any day now...
24 posted on 05/16/2009 6:21:59 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: Maelstorm

I totally agree with you.


25 posted on 05/16/2009 6:22:20 PM PDT by nobama08
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To: Mr. K

If she runs, I will campaign for her, raise money for her, walk over hot coals to do whatever it takes to help her get elected. They fear her because she has a chance of WINNING..and they KNOW it. She doesn’t need the GOP establishment to help her win, screw them. They don’t give a damn about us or what we believe. The GOP wants to become the Democrat Lite, they think if they become more Democrat they will have a better shot of winning...WRONG, and as long as they continue to think that way they don’t have a shot


26 posted on 05/16/2009 6:22:26 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Maelstorm

Exactly. I was a Thompson supporter, and watched Romney’s tactics. But IMHO Romney, his staff, or anyone knows what to do about Palin. She’s the people’s choice, and the “people” see thru Romney on first glance.


27 posted on 05/16/2009 6:22:27 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: Maelstorm
Joan,

The reason you fear Sarah is that you fear women of principle and character.

Besides, aren't you on unemployment yet as a writer for a cellulose-based outlet?

Cheers!

28 posted on 05/16/2009 6:23:55 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Maelstorm

Sarah didn’t make mistakes. Its the media who made scandals out of everything while ignoring all the mistakes of obama’s. Remmber the bridge to nowhere that Sarah killed? The media lied about what happened there. Remember the wardrobe? The media ignored Obama’s wardrobe cost. Remember the interviews? Media ignored all the gaffs made by obama and biden


29 posted on 05/16/2009 6:24:17 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Maelstorm
I’m not interested in a parrot for President.

Or a red winged black bird either.

30 posted on 05/16/2009 6:24:18 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (God's Riches At Christ's Expense.............Selah.)
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To: thatdewd
Consider that pic STOLEN.

Cheers!

31 posted on 05/16/2009 6:24:36 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Maelstorm

Some of the Mitt folks along with Sanford are the
ones to bash Gov. Palin.


32 posted on 05/16/2009 6:25:53 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: 4rcane

...Remember the Gibson interview where he lied to Palin about what she said at a church, by using an edited clip, telling her its a full quote

They can’t find anything negative about Sarah so they lie about them


33 posted on 05/16/2009 6:26:33 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Sarah Barracuda

OK. Walk over coals.

You know, the far left and the far right both want Palin to be the GOP nominee, for different reasons, and both will be working for that purpose. It will make for some interesting FReeper bedfellows.


34 posted on 05/16/2009 6:26:52 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: Maelstorm
Romney is smarter and more accomplished than Palin, and just as good-looking.

RHINO and Washington insider who will never get my vote!

35 posted on 05/16/2009 6:28:23 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: Maelstorm
Dan Quayle the victim of everything negative said on this website about the MSM. Quayle decried the false ideas being planted about the single mother. The picture of "Murphy Brown" a fictional sit com character, planning her entry into motherhood may reflect some truth about a few women. This on a career well established professional woman- with lots of cash to hand off bringing up a child, by nannies.

The overall truth was and is, that many single moms are often hard put to enjoy, what should have been their right. Money does not grow on trees. This is the time to pick and choose, not be stuck with responsibilities without a partner.

As for Governor Palin let the MSM sneer. I take no pleasure in the plight of Nancy Pelosi to be truthful, but guess who is the most comfortable at this time.

36 posted on 05/16/2009 6:30:06 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Maelstorm

mailto:vennochi@globe.com

Everybody send Joan an email.

I just told her SHE would never be a VP nominee.


37 posted on 05/16/2009 6:30:32 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Inyo-Mono

I laughed at that line. I don’t consider Romney smarter or more accomplished. I ran into a Romney supporter tonight as a matter of fact. Some people are all about triangulation.


38 posted on 05/16/2009 6:30:51 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Some people hold to intentions dearly because at the end of the day they have nothing else to offer.)
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To: Markos33
...”even though she will never be president of the United States.”

I remember the same thing said about Ronald Reagan.

39 posted on 05/16/2009 6:31:51 PM PDT by gitmo (History books will read that Lincoln freed the slaves and Obama enslaved the free.)
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To: princess leah

Yes they are inept in spending our money and far to good a thieving it. I don’t want someone who will manage it. I want someone like Palin would will turn the clock back on government as well as cutting waste and spending.


40 posted on 05/16/2009 6:33:04 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Some people hold to intentions dearly because at the end of the day they have nothing else to offer.)
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To: Markos33

Sarah may not be president but she will be something—maybe speaker of the house, Senator from Alaska, UN leader, Head of a new political party, or Secretary of State, or Vice President. She isn’t done by a long shot.


41 posted on 05/16/2009 6:33:20 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Maelstorm
JOAN VENNOCHI Joan is it well I would back Palin in a second.
42 posted on 05/16/2009 6:35:50 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

I don’t see anyone who I would rather vote for. I like a candidate that I don’t have to hold my nose to vote for. I like one that says what they believe without apology. Standing up for the principles that founded this nation is nothing to be ashamed of, standing against the legalized thievery of a government grown too big and a political class grown too self serving should be a badge of honor, and standing up for the values of striving to have intact families with both a Mom and Dad with common decency and respect for human life should be something deserving of praise not cynical critique. Gov. Palin is a unique individual she is not one of “THEM” and that makes her perfect for the Presidency.

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.” C.S. Lewis


43 posted on 05/16/2009 6:41:00 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Kansas58

Very good. :-) I didn’t even notice it was a Woman. It is sometimes hard to tell with the left.


44 posted on 05/16/2009 6:41:57 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: 4rcane; All

The bridge to nowhere. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t she cancel the bridge, keep the money and use it for other Alaska highway projects which enabled her to put money in the pocket of everyone in the state? Was this the state’s money, or the nation’s money which she did not give back to the rest of us?


45 posted on 05/16/2009 6:44:14 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Maelstorm

Mitt is a waste of time.
He would not even make it through the primarie like last time. He is like beating a dead horse.

He is sitting around 10 miles north from me at his home here in San Diego. He can watch the waves come in and count his money


46 posted on 05/16/2009 6:46:41 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: EGPWS
Dan Quayle is no Dan Quayle as conveyed by the MSM.

My thoughts exactly as reading the headline.

Quayle was the first successful smearing of a conservative by the liberal media/entertainment elite who saw him as a threat. He was done in as much as anything by retold lies surfacing as jokes on late night TV.

47 posted on 05/16/2009 6:47:53 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Maelstorm
That makes her an easy target for Democrats and Republicans, who enjoy running against her.

The only thing is she is the continuing target of the idiot Globe columnists of the world who continue to denigrate her and publish lies as the truth.

I don't think a one has ever defended her.

All you have to do is look at the Kennedys with their rapes, murder and drunkenness, AlGore's progeny who likes to race a Prius (and how metrosexual is that?) while smoking dope, AlGore himself who likes to tell others how to live yet spends three thousand dollars a month in utilities in his own house.

Then there is Biden who drove a man to his grave by claiming he was drunk when HIS WIFE DROVE OUT IN FRONT OF HIM. Yet to the day the guy died Biden was still out there, riding his dead wife to victory.

These idiots on the left have so much more baggage (tax cheats, philanderers, crooked lobbyists, etc.) that if the press really wanted to Quaylify or Palinize them too it would be so easy.

But that will never happen.

48 posted on 05/16/2009 6:49:22 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama has raised gas prices 40%. Thank you Obamination!)
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To: grey_whiskers
That which is freely given cannot be stolen.

:)

49 posted on 05/16/2009 6:52:01 PM PDT by thatdewd (2012 is coming soon...and THEY know it! THEY are afraid.)
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To: WVKayaker

I voted for Romney in the primaries. I voted for him for governor too. But I don’t think that he would necessarily beat Palin in the primaries. He couldn’t beat McCain.


50 posted on 05/16/2009 6:53:42 PM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (We seem to have reached a critical mass of stupid people.)
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