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GOP sounds alarm on Latino voter gap [Graham, Steele, Martinez, Crist] [amnesty] [RINO wars]
Politico ^ | 2009-05-18 | Ben Smith

Posted on 05/18/2009 9:02:56 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

The Republican Party has scarcely begun to repair a wound that threatens to confine it to minority status: its 2006 collapse among Hispanic voters.

Driven by some Republicans’ sharp attacks on illegal immigration and — as many Hispanics perceived it, immigrants in general — Latino voters fled the GOP en masse in the midterm elections, then turned on John McCain, as well.

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There are stirrings of a Republican response. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) has spoken with Hispanic leaders about creating a new organization to back Latino candidates. Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele has made minority outreach a priority at the RNC. And some Republicans see an opening if Obama continues to defer action on overhauling immigration.

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A spokesman for the National Republican Senatorial Committee, Brian Walsh, said that candidate recruitment for 2010 is still under way and noted that Martinez himself had endorsed Crist, in part for his moderate stance on immigration.

But Graham, who said he sympathized with the Senate Republican leadership’s decision to back a candidate with a good chance of winning, also raised concerns about the Florida decision.

“The key for our party is to have Hispanic candidates to carry our banner,” Graham said. “I don’t blame them for trying to make sure we don’t lose another seat in Florida. But at the same time, clearly Mr. Rubio is the type of person who would lead our party in Florida and the country to a new level.”

Graham said he’s considering forming a political action committee, or some other entity, aimed at recruiting strong Hispanic Republican candidates.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2010; aliens; amnesty; crist; crist4obama; fl2010; hispandering; immigrantlist; latinovote; lindseygraham; martinez; rino; rinos; rinowars; rnc; steele; wheresjsimmons; zot
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1 posted on 05/18/2009 9:02:56 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: upchuck; HiJinx; gubamyster; AuntB; TADSLOS; cripplecreek; Tennessee Nana; calcowgirl; ...

I’m sorry, but I don’t trust anything on this matter coming out of Martinez, Crist, Grahamnesty, or Steele.


2 posted on 05/18/2009 9:04:17 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

So you give them amnesty and then they still vote for liberals and grow the welfare state even further thru the roof.

Then what?


3 posted on 05/18/2009 9:06:45 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: rabscuttle385

Yeah, brilliant strategy.

If Latinos/Hispanics won’t vote for you because you won’t back an illegal amnesty, then throw overboard the rule of law to pander for their votes (as if illegals would ever align themselves with Republicans anyway.)

Meanwhile stick your thumb in the eyes of your base, who will have to subsidize the illegals. Pick up one vote for every 10 votes you run off.

Brilliant.


4 posted on 05/18/2009 9:08:17 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I am confused. Race does or doesn’t matter?

Calling Mr Orwell!


5 posted on 05/18/2009 9:08:35 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: A_Former_Democrat

SOLUTION: MARCO RUBIO

Conservative (Cuban heritage) running for Senator in FL


6 posted on 05/18/2009 9:08:44 AM PDT by Reagan69 (No Representation without Taxation !)
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To: Reagan69

Exactly. Bagman Charlie needs to go, and here’s his chance to “take one for the team”.


7 posted on 05/18/2009 9:11:36 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: rabscuttle385

Nice to see the handful of Rino’s having meetings with one another.

Meanwhile, the American people would like to see the current federal immegration law enforced with hopes of returning their neighborhoods to 1st world status.


8 posted on 05/18/2009 9:15:16 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: rabscuttle385

Martinez, Crist, Graham, Steele, McCain, Specter & Lugar,
joined by former president Bush, plan immigration strategy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6dm9rN6oTs


9 posted on 05/18/2009 9:15:37 AM PDT by tumblindice (Bring it up again and we'll vote on it.)
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To: rabscuttle385

The rank and file need to wake up and realize remaining in the Republicrat party will only result in more socialism.


10 posted on 05/18/2009 9:15:40 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: rabscuttle385

mccain was an open borders guy.

It didn’t do him any good. why not?

hispanics didn’t didn’t give him more votes for his trouble.

americans gave him less votes for being a traitor

these articles are fud


11 posted on 05/18/2009 9:16:18 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ahh yes, race politics.

Works for democrats, never has and never will work for republicans.


12 posted on 05/18/2009 9:18:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: rabscuttle385

“Graham said he’s considering forming a political action committee, or some other entity, aimed at recruiting strong Hispanic Republican candidates.”

Strong Hispanic Republican candidates....
translation...open border, hispandering rinos!

How many elections do these morons have to lose before they figure out the American people have had enough of their open border/pandering politics!


13 posted on 05/18/2009 9:19:45 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: rabscuttle385

This really only applies to Catholic Hispanics.

There is no substantial issue with Protestant Hispanics, even against the Obama wave Republicans still won 48% of the Hispanic Protestant vote.


14 posted on 05/18/2009 9:21:09 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: A_Former_Democrat

The Republicans need to look at how the Latino votes in Mexico. That’s how they will vote here, for the most part. In Mexico, they vote for anyone that states that they will take care of them.


15 posted on 05/18/2009 9:22:46 AM PDT by RC2
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To: rabscuttle385

Our two-party system has evolved from Democrat & Republican to the TaxPayer & Non-TaxPayer political parties. !!


16 posted on 05/18/2009 9:23:52 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: rabscuttle385

If Latinos wouldn’t vote for Juan McAmnesty why would anyone think pandering on illegal immigration would win them over?

If the GOP wants to win over Latinos:

1) Focus on issues like abortion and same sex marriage. Most Latinos are Catholics and are conservative on these issues.

2) Remind them that they won’t benefit from amnesty. The current system (if enforced) is more favorable to Latino immigrants who are American citizens, because they can petition for their close relatives. If amnesty is passed they will lose that advantage and their family members will have to wait in line behind the 12 million illegals and in line with the family members of those 12 million illegals.

3) Continue to point out how liberalism has devestated minority communities.

4) Be the party that talks to Latinos (and blacks) like adults, instead of pandering to them and treating them like helpless children.

5) Explain the benefits of conservative principles, to them, just like anyone else. Our ideas are better, if we continue to clearly and persuasively present them, people will gradually be won over to them.


17 posted on 05/18/2009 9:24:51 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: rabscuttle385

I do not want my Culture destroyed by these RINO’s


18 posted on 05/18/2009 9:27:11 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: cripplecreek

These GOP `masterminds’ remind me of the story of the guy in a bar hoping to take home this beautiful blonde bombshell.
They’re watching the 10 o’clock news and he says,
“See that guy standing on the ledge? I’m betting he jumps. If he jumps, you’ll come home with me, OK?”
She says, “He’ll never jump ... OK.”

The suicide jumps to his death, so they get ready to leave.

The guy says, “Hey, weren’t you here at 6 when they ran that story the first time? I thought I saw you ...”
And she replies, “Yeah. I didn’t think he’d be stupid enough to do it again.”


19 posted on 05/18/2009 9:30:30 AM PDT by tumblindice (The TOTUS & the GOP: Dumb and Dumber)
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To: rabscuttle385

The latino vote could be problematic going forward thanks to the politicians who have coddled illegals over the years and allowed them to lay down roots unmolested by the law. That has led to them having a lot of citizen offspring. Go to a kindergarden in central NC. There are an absurd number of latinos and you can bet that most have illegal parents. Those kids will be eligible to vote before long. Millions of them nationwide. And given the way they breed millions more will come onto the voter rolls before long.


20 posted on 05/18/2009 9:31:48 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: rabscuttle385

Are they still here?


21 posted on 05/18/2009 9:32:37 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: tumblindice

The current crop of illegals, if granted amnesity, will just be torpedoed by the next crop of illegals willing to work at lower wages.
Without border enforcement and internatl enforcement, all the arguments for amnesity just fall apart.


22 posted on 05/18/2009 9:33:51 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: tumblindice

LOL that’s about the size of it.


23 posted on 05/18/2009 9:35:12 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: rabscuttle385

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2252946/posts?q=1&;page=224#224

Why does the GOP hate Hispanics? (Vanity)
May 16 2009 | chicagolady

Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 09:30:49 PM by chicagolady


24 posted on 05/18/2009 9:41:32 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: RC2
In Mexico, they vote for anyone that states that they will take care of them.

That is it exactly...so the more illegal Mexicans the more it grows the welfare state....we are toast...

25 posted on 05/18/2009 9:47:20 AM PDT by Niteflyr ("If you’re drawing flak, you know you're over the target".)
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To: RC2

“The Republicans need to look at how the Latino votes in Mexico. That’s how they will vote here, for the most part. In Mexico, they vote for anyone that states that they will take care of them.”


Wouldn’t it make more sense to look at why Protestant Hispanics fall outside of your theory?


26 posted on 05/18/2009 9:57:31 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: rabscuttle385

Core Obama constituencies (groups where it would help Republicans to make inroads):
13% of voters-African-Americans: 95% for Obama
3% of voters-Jews: 78% for Obama
18% of voters-Persons aged 18-29: 66% for Obama
9% of voters-Latinos: 67% for Obama
2% of voters-Asians: 62% for Obama


27 posted on 05/18/2009 10:29:08 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777
3% of voters-Jews: 78% for Obama

Can someone explain to me how a group like American Jews would vote for a guy who wants to buddy up to a holocaust denier?

28 posted on 05/18/2009 10:48:35 AM PDT by Niteflyr ("If you’re drawing flak, you know you're over the target".)
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To: Niteflyr

3% of voters-Jews: 78% for Obama
Can someone explain to me how a group like American Jews would vote for a guy who wants to buddy up to a holocaust denier?


Jews are a traditional and longstanding constituency group of the Democratic Party.
There is one Republican member of the 111th Congress who is Jewish (Eric Cantor). There are 44 Democratic members of Congress who are Jewish.


29 posted on 05/18/2009 10:53:56 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: rabscuttle385
I trust them to back stab conservatives at every available opportunity.
30 posted on 05/18/2009 10:55:05 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: rabscuttle385

As they try to shut Mario Rubio out of the election process in FL. The GOP is the stupid party.


31 posted on 05/18/2009 10:56:52 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: ansel12

Not really. I don’t equate which religion controls their politics and how they vote. Not any more than I want people to look at me that way. Regardless of my religion, I vote the way I want and my views for my country and it’s well being.


32 posted on 05/18/2009 11:04:53 AM PDT by RC2
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To: AuntB

Graham won his election against despite being strongly in favor of a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants against a anti-immigrant Democrat no less. McCain won the Republican nomination even though his candidacy was declared all but dead because of his support for comprehensive immigration reform. How far did Hunter and Tancredo get?


33 posted on 05/18/2009 11:12:24 AM PDT by j.simmons (If you are not with the GOP, you are with the Democrats.)
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To: RC2

Yet, you would hold their country of origin against them.


34 posted on 05/18/2009 11:14:51 AM PDT by j.simmons (If you are not with the GOP, you are with the Democrats.)
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To: RC2
Not really. I don’t equate which religion controls their politics and how they vote.

If you mistakenly think that the question has something to do with being born Hispanic then you shouldn't even waste your time on this kind of thread.

It clearly is not about the "Hispanic" vote, because it is only Catholic Hispanics that we have the problem with.

In 2004 the Republicans got 56% of the Protestant Hispanic vote, in 2008 the Republicans got 48% of the Protestant Hispanic vote, the answer to our (perceived) Hispanic problem lies somewhere within that little known information.

35 posted on 05/18/2009 11:17:16 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Cheetahcat

No one is trying to destroy your culture. All that is asked is that you respect that of Latinos. Is that too much to ask?


36 posted on 05/18/2009 11:19:15 AM PDT by j.simmons (If you are not with the GOP, you are with the Democrats.)
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To: DemonDeac

Hispanics are the future of America. There can be no denying that. If the GOP does not move to win them over quickly and by any means necessary, it is done as a viable political party.


37 posted on 05/18/2009 11:20:37 AM PDT by j.simmons (If you are not with the GOP, you are with the Democrats.)
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To: j.simmons
“No one is trying to destroy your culture. All that is asked is that you respect that of Latinos. Is that too much to ask?”

Ha Ha Ha When EXACTLY was this Ace??? Suggestion lay off the Tequila before you come in here.

38 posted on 05/18/2009 11:23:36 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: SharpRightTurn

Most conservatives will still support the GOP regardless if the GOP supports a pathway to citizenship. Those one issue fringe voters who leave the party will not be missed and their numbers will be up for elsewhere. They will no longer have any representation whatsoever and will have no one to blame but themselves and their own intolerant beliefs.


39 posted on 05/18/2009 11:24:09 AM PDT by j.simmons (If you are not with the GOP, you are with the Democrats.)
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To: jamese777

The GOP obviously has a lot of work to do.


40 posted on 05/18/2009 11:25:42 AM PDT by j.simmons (If you are not with the GOP, you are with the Democrats.)
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To: j.simmons; Cheetahcat; DemonDeac; moder_ator

Look you are a new sign up troll, reading your short posting history here reveals that you have no interest in conservatism.


41 posted on 05/18/2009 11:30:34 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: rabscuttle385
Latino voters fled the GOP en masse in the midterm elections, then turned on John McCain, as well.

John McCain not only tried to pry open the borders with back room legislation but went and prostrated himself before La Raza (The Race), a violently anti-American criminal support group, during the campaign. If the RNC can't figure out that this is a losing formula then they need to go ahead and update their resumes.

What exactly did all those Whig politicians and hanger-ons do after their party collapsed for lack of spine?

42 posted on 05/18/2009 11:34:54 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (All grey areas are fabrications)
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To: j.simmons

Here is a perfect example of one of the problems we have. You read something into my statement that I did not address. I didn’t hold “their country of origin” against them. I merely stated it as fact, or better yet, how I see things.


43 posted on 05/18/2009 11:36:41 AM PDT by RC2
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To: ansel12

So....are you saying that Catholics are the problem? That’s why I left religion out of it. I figure that they are adults and make up their own minds.....regardless of what religion they are.


44 posted on 05/18/2009 11:38:47 AM PDT by RC2
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To: rabscuttle385
The GOP will never seduce the illegal alien criminal insurgent invader colonist vote, the democrats have it and the plantation blacks and the dead democrat voters in their pocket forever.

Trying to appease groups that will never vote republican is a waste of time, money and capital.

45 posted on 05/18/2009 11:42:12 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: RC2

If we want to win Hispanic voters then we need to find out what the patterns are for the ones that we are winning and the ones that we are losing.

Do you see any pattern yet?


46 posted on 05/18/2009 11:43:18 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: j.simmons

“Most conservatives will still support the GOP regardless if the GOP supports a pathway to citizenship.”

You have been drinking the McCainac kool-aid.


47 posted on 05/18/2009 11:45:57 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: ansel12

I don’t see a pattern yet. They have been looked at as simply a democratic tool. They are a large voting block that should be listened to if we want to win them over. They have different ideas as to what they want but nobody is listening and in the end, they will help shape this country a little at a time. Hispanics need to be brought into the fold. Who knows they may have some good ideas. Don’t take me wrong, I’m not talking about the illegals. They still need to be controlled.


48 posted on 05/18/2009 11:47:48 AM PDT by RC2
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To: SharpRightTurn

Speaking of McCain, many proclaimed they would never vote for him even if he won the GOP nomination, but almost all ended up doing just that. Face it, illegal immigration is not that big of an issue for most Republicans.


49 posted on 05/18/2009 11:54:42 AM PDT by j.simmons (If you are not with the GOP, you are with the Democrats.)
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To: RC2
They are a large voting block that should be listened to if we want to win them over.

My point is that they are two different voting blocks, not one.

This isn't a Hispanic/White division, it is a Catholic/Protestant division, we now have something that we can study and analyze.

50 posted on 05/18/2009 11:55:40 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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