Posted on 05/19/2009 11:58:50 AM PDT by RatherBiased.com
But the president continues to talk about cost. It's a trap he's made for himself. Without the savings Obama claims will result from health care reform, the crushing debt of the president's other spending priorities will become unsustainable. He's bet everything on his ability to cut health care costs. If that doesn't work, it all falls apart.
It does not take a genius to figure out that all those uninsured out there that now need coverage will cost a bundle. The Demos made another error when they peg this number at 40M+ when it is most certainly not that high.
The extraordinary cost of government today with $1.8T deficits coupled with this boondoggle along with the press from Canada and Europe about rationing makes those that have coverage VERY nervous. The idea that the government can force a cost reduction is absurd.
It seems the Obambi tripod of health care, energy and education with even greater roles by government in each of these is not gaining much traction. Until the economy regains some stability people are not going to look at this initiatives kindly.
Those Blue Dogs in the House look at the 2010 elections and are VERY worried right now.
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“timely treatment beat cost almost unanimously.”.....
Hah! The idiots who voted for him should have been asked that question by the media but then again it’s to relevant.
Urkel had to be elected at all costs!
Obama’s initiatives will not be defeated until the republicans take back the house in the next two years. Obama’s objectives are not moderate....he knows he only has two years to socialize this country and he will move at break-neck speed to see it happen ASAP.
Well, I return to my analogy of the guy with a gun at your head. The “communication” allegedly going on when 0bama speaks is gauged solely by the reaction of his audience. His audience is a collection of takers and big government types, and they drink in his words. Many of them really, sincerely like the idea of big government, out of whatever ignorant state they happen to be in. Many of them are enamored with the otherwise meaningless notion that the US elected a black man and it’s so historic and earthshaking. The manna from on high and the hopey changeyness he’s advocated so far has gone almost entirely to the banking class. Whose hero is that? Timmy Geithner’s?
IOW, he’s just preaching to the choir. When this glow wears off and the economy resumes the negative trajectory it was and still is on, except now abetted by the boneheaded policies he and his cabal are obsessed with, we’re gonna see great big waves of buyer’s remorse wash in.
I agree. He is no great communicator.
I can picture it now. If you’re a liberal, you get good health care, if you’re a conservative, you’re immediately denied.
Scary.
That sounds about right, according to the Democrat’s sales pitch. (loosely interpreted of course)
The real deal is that nobody will get good health care any longer.
Democrats, Republicans, it doesn’t matter. One size fits all, and it will be a size zero.
The key to defeating national health care, as I posted a day or so ago, is to simply and relentlessly call it RATIONING, as some are doing on this thread. (I’m not taking credit, just pointing it out) A cross between the DMV and the IRS, explained in sentences understandable by 2 linked neurons. Paint that picture, chant that chant, and leave it at that. Explain further at your own risk. It is NOT the case, IMO, that Republicans have to “reach out” to Dems or “move toward the center”. That’s BS.
Conservatives DO however, have to adopt the idiocracy tactic of glomming onto and repeating these 2 and 3 word sixth-grade level explanations for what threatens this country. Where they can be found. In this case, it can.
The title is all wrong too. Republicans won't defeat anything, they're too busy trying to look relevant by being Socialist-lite. The only way this turkey will be defeated is with massive protests like the Tea Partys. If enough people flood their congress critters with calls and emails maybe some of the blue dog democrats will be peeled off. We can only hope.
Bull crap. The Republicans are too scared to fight Hussein. Many of them are good men, but they do not want to be targeted by Hussein and his media pit bulls.
Hussein is a thug, and his dogs who sit happily on his lap and lick his face will turn vicious upon any single person who speaks a word against him.
Only the American people, only they can stand up against this nonsense. They can give conservative politicians the cover...but I fear the water is already over the dam.
We will have to be in “recovery” mode in the next decade, if the Republic survives.
My big question is, Does congress and the administration get to keep THEIR health care plan or are they lumped in with the rest of us. Do Dodd or Kennedy et al have to wait in line for treatment or are they pushed to the head of the line because they’re “our servants”? What if their treatment is not “cost effective”? Do they still get treated or left to die in some hospital waiting room?
I have seen absolutely no indication that the Republicans have the ability or desire to defeat this man on anything. If he loses it will be due to blue dog Democrat defections, or some form of incompetence/screw-up/sheer dumb luck
This is nothing new. I've said for years that the GOP ought to have its license as a political party revoked due to continuous incompetence. Far too many in the GOP, starting with the Bushes, think that doing politics is too icking and must be restricted to official "campaign" periods. Far too many in the elected, professional GOP, see it as their job, to dot the "i's", cross the "t's" of the socialist legislation passed by the Democrats (usually with help from their junior partners, their pet GOP elected officials).
The official, professional, expensive GOP has today exactly zero positive impact. They are a nest of nepotism and elitism. They are deadweight.
I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
How will national healthcare ‘change everything’ after the US Dollar has been destroyed?
I am going to have to disagree with your statement that many are good men. If they were good men they would not let fear keep them from doing what is right. Good men don't cave into fear, only cowards and people thinking of only themselves. They weren't elected in order to think about themselves but about what is right for the country and the people.
James Inhofe, Jim DeMint, Tom Coburn are three that come to mind.
I've heard quite a bit of communication. That's why I know they voted "0" on both of Oshama's financial packages.
Strategy? That's usually not communicated to the public which is why it seems to be working...they are secretly doing parliamentary procedures and such.
MAJOR victory if cap and trade is truly defeated, as I have heard "communicated". And if socialized medicine goes down I will have to say the Repubs are doing GREAT playing defense.
And there are many issues that have not hit home yet.
The Left loves to talk about the “evil” private insurance companies that “deny claims” -—
As if your “sainted” government never denies claims?
A CMS (Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services) EOB (Explanation of Benefits) clearly has codes for denied procedures. Why?
Medicare, on its own webpage, has a “coordination of benefits” screen. When Medicare “coordinates” anything, you can BET that they are forcing Workman's comp, homeowners insurance, auto insurance or some other party to PAY their bill. Often this is perfectly justified, but the left howls when private insurance companies do the SAME thing!
Also, show a pie chart of American industry, with the financial industry, the auto industry and now the health care industry coming under complete control of Obama. That should frighten all but the hard core Marxists among us!
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