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1 posted on 05/19/2009 12:29:21 PM PDT by autumnraine
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Did everyone watch Carol Browner, member of a socialist party and obama’s energy czar, this morning on Fox?

Then on CBS? http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20090519/pl_bloomberg/ar0cc1w378ru

I was surprised Fox and Friends did not catch the part towards the end that there would be tax incentives for those who purchased these cars. Meaning tax hikes to anyone who does not buy them or hangs on to their old faithful.

Then a gentleman came on and said the only way the plans works in other countries is to charge higher taxes on the larger cars.

And on the ABC Good Morning America Browner refuses to answer the tax question because she knows they plan on all the taxes on everything. Three or four times Browner refused to answer the question. But she lied through her teeth that this is what everyone has asked for. People have asked for economic cars throughout hisotry. People have never asked to go poor and have government control their every move.

As obama said this is a firststep to their broader plan. He mentioned Waxman’s cap and trade and carbon tax at $3100.00 a year to each family.

obama and his two socialist party members Solis and Browner move fast. I am really angry at Michael Steele using this catastrophe to request donations to stop democrats from carbon tax legislation. WTH!!! Why do they need money to stop something so evil and sinister as massive taxes that will destroy the middle class? Under the guise of new new taxes to middle class this will be the largest ever tax in history to the middle class and higher. Just do your job, Steele. Or get out!

From Michael Steele;

President Obama and the Democrats are planning to jack up energy prices and pass the cost on to you and your family.

Let me ask you, with our economy in shambles, the unemployment rate at nearly 9% and our country about to run a record deficit of $1.8 TRILLION for 2009, can you and your family afford an additional $3,100 in higher energy taxes a year?

If Obama and his liberal Democrat cohorts get their way, you and your family will be paying an additional $260 a month in energy taxes thanks to the Democrats’ outrageous Cap & Trade legislation. That’s $260 a month that you and your family should be allowed to spend, save or invest anyway you see fit.

This tax hike may be coming sooner than you think.

Ultraliberal Democrat Congressmen Henry Waxman and Ed Markey, who chair the Energy committees moving the Cap and Trade bill, want it passed by the U.S. House before Memorial Day. That leaves Republicans precious little time to stop the Democrats’ energy tax plan that could cost American businesses and families up to $2 TRILLION and cause massive job losses.


142 posted on 05/19/2009 2:23:34 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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“the government would extend a credit line to the new company and forgive the bulk of the $15.4 billion in emergency loans that the U.S. has already provided to GM, the source said.”

Where’s the uproar from congress ?


150 posted on 05/19/2009 2:40:40 PM PDT by culpeper ( When traitors are called heroes, dark times have fallen - Roland Deschain)
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Barack Obama told us, the public, that Chrysler and GM would pay back the loans to protect the taxpayer. But now neither company has to pay it back and not one single politician in Washington has the GUTS to stand in front of a microphone and tell the American people that they’ve just been ripped off.

I am seriously considering not paying my taxes next year.


151 posted on 05/19/2009 2:47:22 PM PDT by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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Next, the federal government will acquire Starbucks and unionize all its employees.

Elections have consequences. The GOP had a pathetic candidate on the top of the ticket and we now have a marxist community organizer killing contract law, individual liberty, and free market capitalism.


152 posted on 05/19/2009 2:52:25 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: autumnraine

Bankruptsy fraud by the numbers.


153 posted on 05/19/2009 2:53:51 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (We have nothing to fear but Obama himself.)
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To: autumnraine; afnamvet; Axenolith; bootless; CounterCounterCulture; Drango; HKMk23; ...

From this day foreward, anyone who buys a GM car is an American Traitor!


154 posted on 05/19/2009 2:57:10 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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Tell GM how you feel about this sellout:
1-800-458-8006

Mash the 0 key until you get a person.

Be polite. Be concise. Get your point across.


156 posted on 05/19/2009 3:00:53 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (If Benito Mussolini was IL DUCE, Barack Obama is ILL DOUCHE!)
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Laughs and laughs and laughs and laughs and laughs!

I thought the bailout was so that GM could AVOID bankruptcy.

If it won’t work for GM, why is it assumed it will work in every other sector?


159 posted on 05/19/2009 3:30:52 PM PDT by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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this is just disgusting.


165 posted on 05/19/2009 3:40:31 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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I wonder what the bondholders will get since they flipped off Obama’s first offer.


168 posted on 05/19/2009 4:03:06 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (I'm all for cap & trade. I want to cap government's power and trade it for a conservative one.)
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Fraudulent conveyance

Investment Dictionary: Fraudulent Conveyance

The illegal transfer of property to another party in order to defer, hinder or defraud creditors.

Investopedia Says:
In order to be found guilty of fraudulent conveyance, it must be proven that the accused’s intention for transferring the property was to put it out of reach of a known creditor.

http://www.answers.com/topic/fraudulent-conveyance

ASSET PROTECTION - Fraudulent Conveyances

http://www.alperlaw.com/fraudulent_conveyances.html

Fraudulent conveyance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraudulent_conveyance


171 posted on 05/19/2009 4:28:05 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 ("Dick Cheney gets results" ~~ Rush Limbaugh)
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In Russia you can pray in school..........


176 posted on 05/19/2009 4:41:06 PM PDT by lucias_clay (Its times like this I'm glad I'm a whig.)
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I will never buy another single government-made vehicle, GM and Chrysler. From now on the rule of thumb is...non-government owned, freemarket vehicles!

Stop Socialism!


181 posted on 05/19/2009 5:01:49 PM PDT by BlackjackPershing ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." Winston Churchill)
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I hope I'm not alive to see the inevitable second Civil War in this country.

But at this rate, I'm suspecting I might.

186 posted on 05/19/2009 5:41:49 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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About the only way to sell a stock like this would be if people are forced to buy in mass quantity.

So ... how long will it be before the IRS tax laws are re-written to force IRAs to have such toxic assets (such as GM, bailed out banks, etc) to be part of their portfolio?

I bet not long at all ... and Obama will paint it as a benefit to the investor.

195 posted on 05/19/2009 6:49:16 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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Here is an idea. Put all of the UAW workers and the outdated plants in the rust belt into the toxic company, and only the newer plants in right to work states into the good company. Let the good company hire non-union labor.

Problem solved.

Why do I fear the reverse is what will actually happen?

197 posted on 05/19/2009 6:54:46 PM PDT by magellan
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Just doing it before they are forced to.

I am glad my grandfather didn’t see what happened to his country.


198 posted on 05/19/2009 6:55:02 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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The government 'bails out'( read as bribes) the automakers to gain control of a once private industry (fascism).

The automakers take the 'bailout' tax payer money and build factories in Brazil and other third world countries (asymetric warfare against the American people).

The automakers build cars in foreign countries and sell to foreign countries with no outlay of their own capital, just US taxpayer dollars (economic warfare).

The automakers give over operations(bought with bailout money) in the US to politically favored groups (communism)

China motors now has no competition in US carmakers (Dianne Feinstein communism)

The "free traders" will complete the gutting of the US domestic economy as planned (global communism)

And now you know the rest of the story.
207 posted on 05/19/2009 7:08:23 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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Total shame on America.

Govt should keep there noses out of it.


213 posted on 05/19/2009 7:17:04 PM PDT by Shyla
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Every single day there is another outrage from this Resident.

General Motors nationalized.

Chrysler nationalized.

Banks. Auto manufacturers.

Health care.

Carbon tax cap trade.

Aborted baby stem cell research.

Federal and international baby murder funding.

Islamofacist terrorists released from Guantanamo.

Veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan on Homeland Security watch list.

Release photos of CIA interrogating enemies.

9000 Earmarks.

Trillions in tarp to bankers.

AIG bonuses.

This sucker is gonna go down. The nation cannot survive a daily dose of this idiocy.


218 posted on 05/19/2009 7:40:43 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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