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'Hopeless' dads kill their families out of love, experts say..
CNN ^ | May 19th, 2009

Posted on 05/19/2009 1:36:02 PM PDT by TaraP

Questions remain after fathers annihilate their entire families

Perpetrator might kill family because he wants to save them from perceived doom

CNN) -- ln April, a Maryland man wrote six suicide notes expressing his love and sorrow for his family, and then shot his wife and three children, before killing himself with a shotgun..

This month, a man killed his wife and two sons in their home near Tampa, Florida. Troy Bellar chased after his teenage son with a high-powered rifle, but the 13-year-old escaped. Bellar later shot himself.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: nonsense; psychobabble; worldgonemad

1 posted on 05/19/2009 1:36:02 PM PDT by TaraP
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To: TaraP
'Hopeless' dads kill their families out of love, experts say..

But hopeless moms abort their babies because it's their "choice."

2 posted on 05/19/2009 1:37:21 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the machines will break.)
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To: All

I see....

This must be a *Love Crime*

*HATE crime is: Saying homosexuals are fruits or vile...


3 posted on 05/19/2009 1:37:44 PM PDT by TaraP (Unless we stand for something, we will fall for everything.")
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To: TaraP

Easier than being a man I guess.


4 posted on 05/19/2009 1:38:11 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Wow...

People without Christ are really susceptible to the whisperings of Satan...


5 posted on 05/19/2009 1:39:26 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: TaraP

“Experts”. Total crap.


6 posted on 05/19/2009 1:39:37 PM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: MrB

People without Christ are really susceptible to the whisperings of Satan...

And it gets worse daily.....


7 posted on 05/19/2009 1:40:38 PM PDT by TaraP (Unless we stand for something, we will fall for everything.")
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To: the invisib1e hand
... experts say."

These experts are mentally deranged. Most likely the shooters had prior contact with and prescriptions from such so-called experts.

8 posted on 05/19/2009 1:41:02 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: TaraP

Rationalization and normalization of murder, disguised as an insightful analysis of mental illness, complete with data from psychiatry.

Destigmatize the murderer. Little by little.


9 posted on 05/19/2009 1:43:51 PM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: TaraP
SICK "Experts"
10 posted on 05/19/2009 1:47:15 PM PDT by goodnesswins (WE have a REPUBLIC.....IF we can KEEP IT!!!)
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To: TaraP

Just because the husband can’t handle the pressures of life, why assume the wife can’t?


11 posted on 05/19/2009 1:48:12 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: TaraP

Who needs Hope when I have Integrity....


12 posted on 05/19/2009 1:48:22 PM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: goodnesswins

I don’t disagree with the contention. Social workers are 14 months into a process that has sent my family and grandkids though hell and there’s still no end in sight. The mother and father still attend their church more than once a week, my wife and I want to foster care the grandkids, but social workers in two states have a quota to meet.


13 posted on 05/19/2009 1:50:37 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: MrB
People without Christ are really susceptible to the whisperings of Satan...

So Jews are really susceptible to Satan's whispers? I thought they were one of the most law abiding groups in the US.

14 posted on 05/19/2009 1:50:51 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: TaraP

Experts? Yeah, right. I’d like to know if these guys were ever on illegal or legal drugs like Ritalin....


15 posted on 05/19/2009 1:55:40 PM PDT by b4its2late (There is always one more imbecile than you counted on.)
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To: TaraP

PS - Obama’s fault.


16 posted on 05/19/2009 1:57:10 PM PDT by b4its2late (There is always one more imbecile than you counted on.)
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To: Ken H

All the Jews I know believe in Jesus Christ, they just don’t believe he is the son of God. And aren’t you being a bit sensitive? Perhaps God would have been better, but you knew what he meant.


17 posted on 05/19/2009 1:57:15 PM PDT by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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To: TaraP

Only a sick bastard would ever do this. Ever. I don’t give a crap, a loving father would never even think about murdering his family.


18 posted on 05/19/2009 1:58:38 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: Ken H

LOL. Well played, Ken.


19 posted on 05/19/2009 1:59:05 PM PDT by Terpin (Missing: One very clever and insightful tagline. Reward for safe return!)
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To: TaraP

just some good old-fashioned KGB-style subversion from CNN here.
20 posted on 05/19/2009 2:01:10 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: TaraP

I’ve seen a number of these stories lately where some deranged and desperate dad takes his whole family out with him... and it seems to me that these men (usually men, though occasionally women) do not so much love their children, but rather think they “own” their children. They leave notes saying that no one else would take care of their children so well and so forth. This is the height of deluded self-importance. I mention this “ownership” syndrome because I see it here occasionally on FR, where people make comments such as, “Who owns your children, you or the state?”

People, no one OWNS their children!!! Children are individuals from Day 1, with their own rights as humans. We as parents are privileged to protect them, enjoy their company, care for them, provide for them, and guide them to adulthood as best we may (hopefully with little interference from our government). But NO ONE OWNS his or her children!

Sigh. /rant


21 posted on 05/19/2009 2:06:24 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (Psssssst! ... PETRAEUS IN 2012 .... Pass it on!)
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To: TaraP

Geez, where do they get these people?


22 posted on 05/19/2009 2:13:26 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Tell that to the Obamaniacs.

They are quite sure they DO own YOUR children. Just ask any lib teacher. Or the UN Child Rights types.


23 posted on 05/19/2009 2:14:47 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: paulcissa

Bulls eye your characterization of “experts”.


24 posted on 05/19/2009 2:17:05 PM PDT by dr huer
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To: TaraP

If that’s love, I don’t want it. (I am thankful that my Godly husband has a much more Christ-like approach to love.)


25 posted on 05/19/2009 2:21:45 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: TaraP

Drive By Media gets a jump on Father’s Day stories.


26 posted on 05/19/2009 2:59:18 PM PDT by sportutegrl (If liberals could do math, they would be conservatives.)
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To: TaraP
"Love" my ass. Only a psychotic egoist would think his own failures invalidate the lives of his wife and children.

Facing financial doom is not the end of the world. There are relatives, your church, public assistance, food stamps, bankruptcy if necessary. Nobody starves in America, unless by their own choice or recklessness.

27 posted on 05/19/2009 3:10:23 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: TaraP
'Hopeless' dads kill their families out of love, experts say..

'Hopeless' dads kill their families out of love...of self! Real bonding is selfless.

28 posted on 05/19/2009 3:14:17 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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Anything short of a Masada-like situation and I’m just not buying it.


29 posted on 05/19/2009 4:36:25 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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And then there is the opposite side of the coin when it’s the mother. What then?

http://www.houmatoday.com/article/20090512/ARTICLES/905129918


30 posted on 05/19/2009 4:39:59 PM PDT by spotbust1 (Procrastinators of the world unite . . . . .tomorrow!!!)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
This is the height of deluded self-importance.

Bingo. The only "love" involves is self-love and total self centeredness. I am so sick and tired of these "experts" making it's society's fault because these "good and loving" parents are driven to despair, blah, blah, blah. We just need to give the "experts" more money to identify and help these poor desperate yet "loving" men.

It's a crock of psychobabble bullshiite.

31 posted on 05/19/2009 4:52:06 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Always be prepared to make that difference.)
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