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Study: Millennials Really Love Their Big Government
The Atlantic ^

Posted on 05/20/2009 7:09:45 AM PDT by mc6809e

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To: mc6809e

They are all saddled with Tens of Thousands of Dollars DEBT for College, and they want SOMEONE ELSE TO PAY FOR IT!


41 posted on 05/20/2009 8:20:38 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: HarriedHarry
We desperately need better and stronger arguments that are seen as relevant by/to the upcoming electorate or all this WILL perish.

I don't think argument and logic will help. Their touch stone for making a decision is a feeling. Feelings are subject to manipulation and change everyday.
42 posted on 05/20/2009 8:22:57 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Has it occurred to you to block texting on her phone!


43 posted on 05/20/2009 8:23:33 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: mc6809e
Democracy isn't freedom. Democracy is control by the biggest gang. And the biggest gang wants IS big government.

Fixed that for you.

45 posted on 05/20/2009 8:27:24 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe

A lot of libs I know justify all the unconstitutional laws and policies with “but we all voted on it, you just lost.”

My answer to that is that if there were 6 men and 4 women who voted on whether rape was to be allowed, and the women lost... should they just have to wait for the next election cycle and campaign harder? Or are there some things that just aren’t allowed, even by majority vote?


46 posted on 05/20/2009 8:31:32 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: Juan Medén
"Unaware of the principles of democracy"? Fella, these kids are the living essence of the priciples of democracy!

Government "by the people" does not work. Representative government ALWAYS leads to tyranny. Why?

BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE ARE STUPID AND UNFIT TO RULE THEMSELVES

that's why.

49 posted on 05/20/2009 8:44:37 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: mc6809e

They will change their mind when the bills start rolling in and they find out they are the ones paying them.


50 posted on 05/20/2009 9:29:20 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: mc6809e

My 25 year-old son is more conservative than me, and I am very conservative. His 21 year old brother isn’t far behind. I will take credit for steering them in the right direction and informing them of things they never would have learned in school. It appears I have successfully passed along my values and world view. It is a pretty satisfying feeling when it becomes clear that they respected you enough and had enough confidence in you to listen and weigh what you taught them. And they are not afraid to defend their positions either. I’m a very proud Dad.


51 posted on 05/20/2009 9:35:46 AM PDT by RatRipper (I HATE tax & spend politicians)
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Thats because the little pissants haven’t strted paying taxes for their big government yet. I do take delight in the fact that they WILL pay for it. For their entire lives. I will enjoy the “I told you so”.


52 posted on 05/20/2009 9:39:59 AM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: PeterPrinciple

‘Bread and Circuses’ is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the Plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader - the barbarians enter Rome.... Mine was a lovely world till the parasites took over.

Robert Heinlein


53 posted on 05/20/2009 9:42:02 AM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: Francis McClobber
Wait until they start getting taxed at the higher tax brackets and have to pay for taking care of all the old people in the country.

Sorry, but the solution to that problem is already baked in. We've spent decades fostering a culture of death. The boomers who fought so hard to preserve the "right to choose" to kill their unborn will be repaid in full when the next generations exercise their "right to choose" to euthanize the old.

That's why "National Health Care" is so central. It's the vehicle for getting rid of the elderly boomers.

54 posted on 05/20/2009 10:20:17 AM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: Francis McClobber
Taxes won't faze them. Shortages will.

Right now, they are young enough to make relative lack of affluence into a statement. *Stuff* still exists. They can find it on eBay, used or new, or find last season's model of tech somewhere that still works. They are proud to wear eclectic combinations from the thrift store. They are vegan or vegetarian and there are organics available everywhere. Most are still unmarried or unattached and comfortable with going around in packs.

As times get harder, fewer items are given to Goodwill. There are fewer veggies being grown in California and they have to be trucked with gasoline to other places. Soybeans are very expensive. What is hip and fun even at 35, becomes boring and pointless after 45. Lack of heat in the winter and air conditioning in the summer is harder as you get older. Urban youth have mass transport and young people like to ride bikes. It gets harder in the country or as you age. Right now, health care to them means STD treatment and abortion, maybe an expensive asthma inhaler, all available to them fairly inexpensively. Let's see how they deal with lack of medical resources after their 40s. Right now, they are encouraging their parents to join some suicide group rather than waste resources on prolonging their lives. Soon, their own children will say what was good for Granny is good for Mom.

I am with the group that believes it will all crash and burn and those who voted for it are going to be very unhappy. In ten years, if we still have elections, they will be running for office. If we don't, perhaps they will accept their own choices. I won't be around much beyond that, but this is now their world and they will make of it what they will, like every generation. I cannot even discuss things with them. They are polite, but anyone who doesn't parrot the Party Line is ignored and disregarded.

55 posted on 05/20/2009 11:13:53 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Are we at high crimes or misdemeanors, yet?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Why not block texting on her phone? Or you can pay unlimited texting which can run from $20 per line or $30 for a family plan?


56 posted on 05/20/2009 3:39:55 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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