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The Medicare Ponzi Scheme
Townhall ^ | 5/20/2009 | John Stossel

Posted on 05/20/2009 9:48:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: maeng
Is that supposed to be an answer to a serious problem? Should we just kill off everyone when they turn 60 or 50 or even 40?

I don't think the choice is in our hands, There are powers higher than us all! Some even believe in God and that He is still in control... I do!

Anybody that relies on government will get what he deserves!

21 posted on 05/21/2009 6:11:00 AM PDT by WVKayaker ( God said, 'Cancel Program GENESIS.' The universe ceased to exist.- Arth. C. Clarke's shortest story)
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To: WVKayaker

Of course God is always in control but we live on this earth and are supposed to make the best choices we can with what we have. We are discussing a man-made (government made) problem and the best way to deal with it.


22 posted on 05/21/2009 6:23:44 AM PDT by maeng ( b)
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To: SeekAndFind
The federal government stiffs the young in favor of the old.

That's because old people are reliable voters.

23 posted on 05/21/2009 6:31:49 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: alexander_busek

I’d be happy to eliminate all this welfare nonsense. Get rid of all the FDR programs and everything that followed.

My answer didn’t mean I approve of any of this principle.


24 posted on 05/21/2009 6:36:11 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: SeekAndFind

One of the problems in the country is that no one will actually be able to push through a bloated, bureaucratic Congress what really needs to be done. There is a great tendancy to try and dress the corpse better, use stronger perfume, and more make-up.

The corpse is dead...no matter what its wearing.

Scrap the whole system....of course that won’t work will it? Once the gov’t has its hand in your paycheck, it’s not about to walk away.

Rather than the gov’t paying for healthcare, why not turn it into a subsidy for those in need to be used to buy their own healthcare?


25 posted on 05/21/2009 6:43:00 AM PDT by delphirogatio (I am the indication, not the confirmation; I'm the inclination, the determination)
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To: maeng
We are discussing a man-made (government made) problem and the best way to deal with it.

These "social programs" should not exist. Period! Medicare is socialist. Social Security is socialist. Energy Departments and EPA's should never have been created. But, they will end soon!

The cookie jar is getting empty and there's not much flour or butter left to make more...


26 posted on 05/21/2009 6:44:51 AM PDT by WVKayaker ( God said, 'Cancel Program GENESIS.' The universe ceased to exist.- Arth. C. Clarke's shortest story)
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To: WVKayaker

I understand what you are stating. But Jesus, while on earth, showed compassion and understanding for the poor and sick. He healed the rich and poor alike. Therefore, I believe (and only my opinion) that we have to try to change our world while still making the best of what we have or what the government throws at us.That does not mean we can’t try to institute reform and do away with useless programs. But let us also use what is there in a wise way.


27 posted on 05/21/2009 6:57:47 AM PDT by maeng ( b)
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To: maeng
... But let us also use what is there in a wise way.

I am involved in local, state,and Federal politics. I also pray daily. Some days require lots of them.

I also like to watch Nascar races, and (as my screen name says) I like to paddle. I walk on the ridges of VA and WV several times a week with Spot, my dog.

It is easy to focus on this crap. It is more difficult to change it. Politics is fine, but prayer invokes more power! In the meantime, support good leaders (like Sarah Palin), or become one. Your mileage may vary.

This letter was sent to Timothy, but applies to all Christians!

Timothy 4

1The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 4For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.

6If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed. 7Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives' tales; rather, train yourself to be godly. 8For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come.

9This is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance 10(and for this we labor and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.

11Command and teach these things. 12Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in life, in love, in faith and in purity. 13Until I come, devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to preaching and to teaching. 14Do not neglect your gift, which was given you through a prophetic message when the body of elders laid their hands on you.

15Be diligent in these matters; give yourself wholly to them, so that everyone may see your progress. 16Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers. =NIV

28 posted on 05/21/2009 7:21:43 AM PDT by WVKayaker ( God said, 'Cancel Program GENESIS.' The universe ceased to exist.- Arth. C. Clarke's shortest story)
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To: WVKayaker

I so agree! It is very easy to get caught up in the day to day hassle that Washington throws our way. I will never be the leader but I can sure push, pull and support those who can. I too find myself relying much more on prayer these days, since the election. But I believe we must live of this world and make the best of our time here and sometimes that includes the dirty job of politics.


29 posted on 05/21/2009 7:48:34 AM PDT by maeng ( b)
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To: SeekAndFind

Report Fraud to the Office of the Inspector General

Email HHSTips@oig.hhs.gov

Call 1-800-HHS-TIPS (1-800-447-8477).

http://www.hhs.gov/stopmedicarefraud/


30 posted on 05/21/2009 8:16:48 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
Report Fraud to the Office of the Inspector General


31 posted on 05/21/2009 9:27:45 AM PDT by WVKayaker ( God said, 'Cancel Program GENESIS.' The universe ceased to exist.- Arth. C. Clarke's shortest story)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why is it that Obama endlessly talks about rising costs of healthcare but never talks about doctors having to insure against lawyers?

Hmmmm,maybe we should discuss this.


32 posted on 05/23/2009 12:57:09 PM PDT by ully2 (ully)
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To: SeekAndFind
"The Medicare Ponzi Scheme"

Socialism itself IS a PONZI scheme.

33 posted on 05/24/2009 7:17:34 PM PDT by evad (Obama's Socialism is a giant PONZI scheme)
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