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Editorial: You did it! Uh, so what now?
Sacramento Bee ^ | 5/20/9 | Editor

Posted on 05/20/2009 10:42:07 AM PDT by SmithL

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To: SmithL

As Rush said on his show today, Californians (the sane ones) spoke their minds years ago when they voted for Prop 187. Once implemented, it would’ve had the dual benefit of dissuading illegals AND saving more than $10B annually. But, of course, it was stopped by a libtard judge.

61 posted on 05/20/2009 11:29:03 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: Kozy
With 330,000 employees, I think 33,000 are dead weight. Assume burdened cost of $100,000 per employee. There is 33,000,000,000 in annual savings. just do it. Stop spending!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ever worked for the govt? 50% is more like it. Lose 165,000 of the lazy looting layabouts.

62 posted on 05/20/2009 11:33:16 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Obamalama lied, the republic died.)
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To: MrB
I'm all for that. The ballot box has been shot to pieces already anyway, what with ACORN, illegals and cemetery residents voting, etc.
63 posted on 05/20/2009 11:34:56 AM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: SmithL
"The entire nation is watching to see how you do now that you're in charge."

How odd that they say this as if it were a "bad thing" ... Seems like "We the People" was the idea from day one.
64 posted on 05/20/2009 11:35:53 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real

Exactly. For once, a socialist showed his hole card in a fit of temper tantrum.

65 posted on 05/20/2009 11:37:17 AM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: Gaffer
If there are to be riots, so be it.

I am old enough to have figured out that nothing really gets settled unless there is some violence, physical or economic, involved.

What is going on now is that president Zero and his band of gay blades are trying to fool productive Americans and Deadbeat-Americans alike that economic violence will not touch them.

The sooner the better, because this slow, horrible slide to Zimbabwe status is driving productive Americans nuts. There are many of us just waiting and watching.

Cheney/Petreaus 2009

....keep your powder dry.

66 posted on 05/20/2009 11:42:59 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: SmithL
Dear Bee:

Here's what now:

1. Eliminate all services to illegals except any emergency care needed to get them back to their country. 3. Cut pay for all state employees making over 3,000 a month.

4. Reduce or eliminate the state capital gain tax.

5. Reduce the state income tax by 2%.

6. Reduce administrative positions in school districts.

7. Build 20 nuclear power plants in the next 20 years.

8. Eliminate legislative staff positions like the elevator operators in the capitol building.

9. Cut state and local pensions back to the level of 1998.

10. Prohibit public employee unions from contributing to those with whom they negotiate their contracts and who approve their contracts.

End of phase one.

67 posted on 05/20/2009 11:45:31 AM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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To: nufsed
and then for phase two:

Cal spends 9,000 a year per school student. I propose we give vouchers in ten school districts for $7,000 per student. A classroom of 25 would cost $175,000 instead of $225,000. They could easily pay the teacher half of that and use the rest for admin, equipment, supplies etc.

There are 6.3 million students in Cal. If you do the entire system, you save $12 bill a year and introduce competition into the education system.

68 posted on 05/20/2009 11:47:09 AM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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To: SmithL
Californians want to see two basic things from Sacramento:

1. Elected representatives doing their jobs instead of passing the tough decisions onto the voters via ballot propositions, and

2. Actual spending reductions or restoration of the budget to the levels of 5 or 10 years ago.

Calling for spending cuts is not enough in a state where the definition of a "spending cut" is a reduction in the rate of growth of the line item.


69 posted on 05/20/2009 11:47:33 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (This just in... Voting Republican is a Terrorist act!)
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To: SmithL
...That sounds a lot like work, you say? Sorry, no whining allowed. You asked for this job. Now you've got it, so get on it. Oh, and remember. The entire nation is watching to see how you do now that you're in charge.

Hey Sac Bee, guess what? The next job is to fix the news reporting in California. Wanna see what the blogs and forums can do?


70 posted on 05/20/2009 11:50:00 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (This just in... Voting Republican is a Terrorist act!)
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To: nufsed

There’s a family of illegals in my hometown with 8 kids enrolled in the school system. That can’t be too kind to the tax-payers over the years.

71 posted on 05/20/2009 11:50:05 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: SmithL

How could any self-respecting citizen pick up the paper, read this, and not immediately cancel his subscription?

72 posted on 05/20/2009 11:50:15 AM PDT by gridlock (L'Etat, c'est Barack...)
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To: SmithL

The Sac Bee can’t vanish soon enough.

73 posted on 05/20/2009 11:54:17 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Chains you can believe in.)
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To: Nachum

What now Sac-O- Bee? How about cutting state salaries and pensions by 10% accross the board?
Then, we can go after the illegals.

No, no, no!

What now Sac-O- Bee? How about cutting state salaries and pensions by 10% accross the board?
Then, THE MONEY WE SAVE can go TO the illegals.

74 posted on 05/20/2009 12:00:56 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: SmithL

The Sac Bee has re-written and scubbed the editorial headline, content, and comments section and is engaged in damage control.

The original title: Editorial: You did it! Uh, so what now? has been watered down and changed now to read: Editorial: Time for reform - not for blame

Not only that, they have tried to tone down their condescending rhetoric in that hissy fit of an editorial. Look at the original, and then the change this morning after a fire storm of protest from their readers:


Good morning, California voters. Do you feel better, now that you've gotten that out of your system? You wanted to show the state's politicians just how mad you are at them. And you did. Boy, did you ever. Proposition 1A with its taxes and its spending limit? Too much of one and not enough of the other, you said (or was it the other way around), and voted it down. Never mind that the taxes go into efffect anyway. You showed 'em. Proposition 1B? That was a tougher call. Proposition 1C? No way. You like the lottery just like it is. And all they were going to do with that extra $5 billion was spend it. Propositions 1D and 1E? Forget it. You had already voted to put money into preschool and mental health programs. You're not taking it out now. And 1F? Heck, yeah! Let's not pay our legislators if they can't pass a budget on time. So what if it likely won't have any effect, or that this year they actually passed a budget months earlier than they needed to? That's not the point. The point is that you're sick and tired of all this political mumbo-jumbo. So you showed those politicians who's in charge. You. You're now officially in charge – of a state that will be something like $25 billion in the hole for the fiscal year beginning July 1.



Good morning, members of the California Legislature. Good morning, Governor. Feeling bruised and abused this morning? Well, you can't say you didn't see it coming. The polls have been saying for weeks that voters were going to do just what they did on Tuesday: Conclusively reject your slate on the ballot, Propositions 1A, 1B, 1C, 1D and 1E. Today, on the morning after voters kicked around your best effort at fixing the state budget as if it were a deflated soccer ball, you face a decision. You can blame the voters for reacting with uninformed and misplaced anger.


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whitesteak wrote on 05/20/2009 11:37:38 AM: Nice job ed board in deciding to remove, rewrite and rename your condescending and elitist we-told-you-so piece from this morning. This whole fiasco shines a bright light on you're enduring attempts at relevency. Would the Times ever do this? No.

Wow. Welcome to Stalin's world. Their diatribe has now become an "Un-Person."

75 posted on 05/20/2009 12:01:47 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: ChocChipCookie
Now the link to that editorial is offline. I wonder if they couldn’t take the reader’s comments, which is what I went looking for.

I suppose there are limits to how many times an editor can be called a snarky bitch.

76 posted on 05/20/2009 12:04:19 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (Roark, Architect.)
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To: nufsed

Numer 2 was Privatize 2 prisons. Rinse and repeat.

77 posted on 05/20/2009 12:04:35 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Put ‘teeth’ back into the Gann Amendment. Seemed to work well betwenn 1979-1988 before Props 98 & 111.

78 posted on 05/20/2009 12:04:41 PM PDT by yadent
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Another comment from a reader who notice the purge:

weimdog wrote on 05/20/2009 11:42:57 AM: You guys at The Bee are hilarious. Didn't like the attention that you received for castigating the electorate? Why not just leave it up? Take it like a man...stand by your convictions. Oh that's have none. Pathetic.

79 posted on 05/20/2009 12:04:45 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SmithL
Dear doofus Sacramento Bee editor.
Here's the plan.
first the list...
...of 290 freaking state agencies.

Access for Infants and Mothers
Accountancy, Board of
Acupuncture Board
Administrative Hearings, Office of
Administrative Law, Office of
Adoptions Branch, Department of Social Services
African American Museum, California
Aging, California Commission on
Aging, Department of
Agricultural Labor Relations Board
Agriculture and Environmental Stewardship, Office of
Agriculture, Department of Food and
AIDS, Office of
Air Resources Board
Alcohol and Drug Programs, Department of
Alcoholic Beverage Control Appeals Board
Alcoholic Beverage Control, Department of (ABC)
Alternative Energy and Advanced Transportation Financing Authority, California
Analytical Chemistry, Center for
Animal Health and Food Safety Services
Apprenticeship Council
Apprenticeship Standards, Division of
Arbitration Certification Program
Architects Board
Archives, California State
Arts Council
Asian Pacific Islander Legislative Caucus
Assembly, California State
Assembly Democratic Caucus
Assembly Republican Caucus
Athletic Commission
Attorney General
Audits, Bureau of State
Automotive Repair, Bureau of
Barbering and Cosmetology, Board of
Bay-Delta Authority, California
Behavioral Sciences, Board of
Binational Border Health, California Office of
Biodiversity Council
Biogeographic Data Branch
Blind, Office of Services to the
Board of Equalization (BOE)
Boating and Waterways, Department of
Braille and Talking Book Library
Building Standards Commission
Business, Transportation and Housing Agency
Cal Boating (Department of Boating and Waterways)
California Exposition & State Fair
California Business Investment Services (CalBIS)
Cal/EPA (Environmental Protection Agency)
CAL FIRE (California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection)
CalGOLD (Business Permit Information)
California Broadband Initiative
California Coastal Commission
California Commission for Jobs and Economic Growth
California Council for the Humanities
California Cultural and Historical Endowment
California Digital Library
California Geological Survey
California Highway Patrol (CHP)
California Institute for Regenerative Medicine
California Museum for History, Women, and the Arts
California Public Employees’ Retirement System (CalPERS)
California Science Center
California State Association of Counties (CSAC)
California State Fair
California State Library
California State Parks
California State University (CSU)
California Tahoe Conservancy
California Work Opportunity and Responsibility to Kids (CalWORKs)
Cal-Learn Program (Department of Social Services)
CalOHI (California Office of HIPAA Implementation)
Cal/OSHA (Division of Occupational Safety & Health)
CalSTRS (California State Teachers’ Retirement System)
Caltrans (Department of Transportation)
CalVet Home Loan Program
CalWORKs Program (Department of Social Services)
Career Resource Network
Cemetery and Funeral Bureau
Central Valley Flood Protection Board
CERES (California Environmental Resources Evaluation System)
Charitable Trusts, Registrar of
Chief Information Officer (CIO)
Chief Information Officer Archives, Office of the (OCIO)
Child Abuse Prevention, Office of
Child Support Services, Department of
Children & Families Commission
Children and Family Services Division
Children’s Trust Fund, California State
Chiropractic Examiners, Board of
Citizens Compensation Commission
Climate Change Portal (Energy Commission)
Coachella Valley Mountains Conservancy
Coastal Conservancy
Colorado River Board of California
Communicable Disease Control, Division of
Community Colleges Chancellor’s Office
Community Services and Development, Department of
Conservation Corps
Conservation, Department of
Constitution Revision Commission
Consumer Affairs, Department of
Contractors State License Board
Contracts Register Program, California State
Controller, California State
Corporations, Department of
Corrections and Rehabilitation, Department of
Cosmetology, Board of Barbering and
Court Reporters Board
Courts, Administrative Office of the
Courts of Appeal
Crime and Violence Prevention Center
Cyber Safety for Children
Dams, Division of Safety of
Data Exchange Center (Department of Water Resources)
DataQuest (Department of Education)
Deaf Access, Office of
Debt and Investment Advisory Commission
Delta Protection Commission
Delta Vision
Dental Auxiliaries, Committee on
Dental Board of California
Developmental Disabilities, State Council on
Developmental Services, Department of
Disability Insurance, State (SDI)
Disabled Veteran Business Enterprise Certification Program
DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles)
Education Audit Appeals Panel
Education, Department of
Education, Office of the Secretary for
Education, State Board of
Educational Facilities Authority
Elections Division (Secretary of State)
Electronic and Appliance Repair, Bureau of
Emergency Medical Services Authority
Emergency Services, Governor’s Office of
Employment Development Department (EDD)
Employment Training Panel
Energy Commission
Engineers and Land Surveyors, Board for Professional
Environmental Health Hazard Assessment, Office of
Environmental Protection Agency (Cal/EPA)
Equalization, Board of
eServices Office
Fair Employment and Housing Commission
Fair Employment and Housing, Department of
Fair Political Practices Commission
Film Commission
Finance, Department of
Financial Institutions, Department of
Fire Marshal, Office of the State
Firearms Division, Department of Justice
Fiscal Services (Department of General Services)
Fish and Game Commission
Fish and Game, Department of
Fleet Administration, Office of
Food and Agriculture, Department of
Forestry and Fire Protection, Department of
Franchise Tax Board
Gambling Control Commission
General Services, Department of
Geographic Information Systems (GIS), California
Geologists and Geophysicists, California Board for
GIS (Geographic Information Systems) Council, California
Government Claims and Victim Compensation Board
Governor’s Committee for Employment of Disabled Persons
Governor’s Mentoring Partnership
Governor’s Office
Governor’s Office of Homeland Security
Guide Dogs for the Blind, Board of
Habeas Corpus Resource Center
Hastings College of the Law
Health and Human Services Agency
Health and Safety & Workers’ Compensation, Commission on
Health Care Services, Department of
Health Insurance Plan of California (PacAdvantage)
Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act Implementation, California Office of
Healthy Families Program
Hearing Aid Dispensers Bureau
High-Speed Rail Authority
Highway Patrol, California (CHP)
HIPAA Implementation, California Office of
Historic Preservation, Office of
Home Furnishings and Thermal Insulation, Bureau of
Homeland Security, Office of
Horse Racing Board
Housing and Community Development, Department of
Housing Finance Agency
Independent Living Council, State (SILC)
Indoor Air Quality Program
Industrial Relations, Department of
Infants and Mothers, Access for
Information Center for the Environment
Information Security and Privacy Protection, Office of
Infrastructure & Economic Development Bank (I-Bank)
Inspector General, Office of the
Institute for Education Reform
Institute for Regenerative Medicine
Insurance, Department of
Integrated Waste Management Board
Interagency Ecological Program
Judicial Council of California
Judicial Performance, Commission on
Justice, Department of
Juvenile Justice, Division of
Labor & Workforce Development Agency
Labor Market Information Division
Labor Standards Enforcement, Division of
Labor Statistics & Research, Division of
Land Resource Protection, Division of
Land Surveyors, Board for Professional Engineers and
Land Use Planning Information Network (LUPIN)
Lands Commission
Landscape Architects Technical Committee
Latino Legislative Caucus
Law Revision Commission
Learn California
Legislative Analyst’s Office
Legislative Black Caucus
Legislative Counsel
Legislative Information
Legislative Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender Caucus
Legislature, California State
Legislature Internet Caucus
Library, California State
Library of California
Lieutenant Governor, Office of
Little Hoover Commission
Lottery, California State
Managed Health Care, Department of
Managed Risk Medical Insurance Board
Mandates, Commission on State
Maritime Academy, California
Measurement Standards, Division of
Mediation & Conciliation Service, State
Medi-Cal Managed Care Health Care Options
Medi-Cal Provider
Medical Assistance Commission
Medical Board of California
Medical Care Services
Mental Health, Department of
Military and Aerospace Support, Office of
Mine Reclamation, Office of
Mining and Geology Board
Motor Vehicles, Department of (DMV)
Museum Resource Center
National Guard, California
Native American Heritage Commission
Natural Community Conservation Planning Program
Naturopathic Medicine, Bureau of
New Motor Vehicle Board
Nursing Home Administrator Program
Ocean Protection Council, California
Occupational Safety & Health Appeals Board
Occupational Safety & Health, Division of (Cal/OSHA)
Occupational Safety & Health Standards Board
Occupational Therapy, California Board of
Ocean Resources Management Program
Office of Emergency Services (OES)
Oil, Gas & Geothermal Resources, Division of
Optometry, Board of
Osteopathic Medical Board of California
OTAN (Outreach and Technical Assistance Network)
PacAdvantage (The Health Insurance Plan of California)
Park and Recreation Commission
Parks, California State
Parole Hearings, Board of
Patient Advocate, Office of the
Peace Officer Standards and Training, Commission on (POST)
PERS (California Public Employees’ Retirement System)
Personnel Administration, Department of
Personnel Board
Pesticide Regulation, Department of
Pharmacy, Board of
Physical Therapy Board of California
Physician Assistant Committee
Planning and Research, Governor’s Office of
Plant Health and Pest Prevention Services
Podiatric Medicine, Board of
Pollution Control Financing Authority
Postsecondary Education Commission
Printing (Office of State Publishing)
Prison Industry Authority
Privacy Protection, Office of Information Security and
Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education, Bureau for
Procurement Division
Professional Fiduciaries Bureau
Psychology, Board of
Public Defender, Office of the State
Public Employment Relations Board (PERB)
Public Health, Department of
Public School Construction, Office of
Public Utilities Commission (PUC)
Publishing, Office of State
Railroad Museum, California State
Real Estate Appraisers, Office of
Real Estate, Department of
Real Estate Services Division
Recycling, Division of
Refugee Programs Branch
Regents of the University of California
Regional Water Quality Control Boards
Registered Nursing, Board of
Registered Veterinary Technician Committee
Rehabilitation, Department of
Resources Agency
Respiratory Care Board
Risk and Insurance Management, Office of
Rivers Assessment, California
Rural Health Policy Council
San Francisco Bay Conservation and Development Commission
San Gabriel & Lower Los Angeles Rivers & Mountains Conservancy
San Joaquin River Conservancy
Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy
Science Fair, California State
Scripps Institution of Oceanography
Secretary of State
Security and Investigative Services, Bureau of
Seismic Safety Commission
Self Insurance Plans (SIP)
Senate, California State
Senate Office of Research
Sierra Nevada Conservancy
Small Business & Disabled Veteran Business Enterprise Certification Program
Small Business Development Centers
Smart Growth Caucus
Smog Check Information Center
Social Services, Department of
Spatial Information Library, California
Speech-Language Pathology and Audiology Board
Standardized Testing and Reporting (STAR)
State and Consumer Services Agency
State Architect
State Bar of California
State Chief Information Officer (CIO)
State Compensation Insurance Fund
State Disability Insurance (SDI)
State Fair
State Independent Living Council (SILC)
State Mandates, Commission on
Statewide Health Planning and Development, Office of
Status of Women, Commission on
Structural Pest Control Board
Student Aid Commission
Summer School for Mathematics and Science, California State (COSMOS)
Summer School for the Arts, California State
Superintendent of Public Instruction
Superior Courts
Supreme Court of California
Systems Integration, Office of
Tax Service Center
Teach California
Teacher Credentialing, Commission on
Teachers’ Retirement System (CalSTRS)
Technology Services, Department of (DTS)
Telecommunications Division
Telephone Medical Advice Services Bureau
Toxic Substances Control, Department of
Traffic Safety, Office of
Transportation Commission
Transportation, Department of (Caltrans)
Travel & Tourism Commission, California
Treasurer, State
Unclaimed Property Program
Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board
Unemployment Insurance Program
Uniform Construction Cost Accounting Commission, California
University of California
Veterans Affairs, Department of
Veterinary Medical Board
Victim Compensation and Government Claims Board
Vital Records, Office of
Vocational Nursing and Psychiatric Technicians, Board of
Voter Registration (Secretary of State)
Water Quality Control Boards, Regional
Water Resources Control Board
Water Resources, Department of
Welfare to Work Division
Wetlands Information System
Wildlife Conservation Board
Women, Commission on the Status of
Workers’ Compensation Appeals Board
Workers’ Compensation, Division of
Workers’ Compensation Medical Unit, Division of
Workforce Investment Board

Note that police, fire, flood control, education and other essential services are sacrosanct, but none is allowed preeminence over all the others.

Have at it.
Let's reduce that to "merely" 195...

You go first.
Choose wisely.

80 posted on 05/20/2009 12:09:28 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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