Posted on 05/20/2009 12:04:13 PM PDT by pissant
He isn’t bitter...he is pissed, like the rest of us.
Not my sister. Aria's sister. I was responding to what Aria said.
But while we're on the topic, my sister is a conservative Democrat who votes Republican in gubernatorial and presidential elections. Or did, until this year. She really disliked Bush/Cheney toward the end of their term, though she wasn't of the opinion that they had killed Iraqis for oil or any of that.
She was upset that they'd grown the federal government as large as they had. Plain and simple.
She lives in a state that Republicans usually carry, but didn't in 2008. The GOP needs people like her to carry elections in places like Pennsylvania and North Carolina.
The next Republican candidate has to appeal to people like her - people who are fiscal conservatives, regardless of their party.
You can thank Bush and the GOP leadership for that... 8 long years of libs and MSM spewing lies... and Bush/Cheney/Frist/Hastert refusing to fight back... allowing the lies to stick as fact.
She thinks we killed over 1 million innocents in Iraq all for the profit of Cheney and their rich friends.
Seriously.
This is what we have to overcome.
I do not believe it is possible to overcome this level of insanity. We need the Republican party to nominate a conservative with proven leadership skills. Cheney, Palin or any of several other governors will do nicely.
We do not need frightened old cranks like McCain. Nor do we need a third party spoiler.
A true Republican would have defeated 0. McCain and his bud, Powell, are no Republicans.
DICK CHENEY: MORE BACKBONE THAN THE REST OF REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS COMBINED! (EXCEPT SARAH PALIN)
DICK CHENEY: MORE BACKBONE THAN THE REST OF REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS COMBINED! (EXCEPT SARAH PALIN)
DICK CHENEY: MORE BACKBONE THAN THE REST OF REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS COMBINED! (EXCEPT SARAH PALIN)
Obviously she is looking for a conservative, not another John McCain. How is she liking Obama?. Would she vote for obama over Chaney? If yes give her a couple of years under this moron and ask again. It’s going to get bad and a lot of tree huggers are going to get religion when they discover they are going to foot the bill not some corporation. His own party is beginning to have buyers remorse. The bloom is comming off the rose!
Yes, Bush just keep taking the shit....for him personally it’s one thing but he hurt us all by letting lies become fact.
However, when the media is against you it’s hard to say Good Morning without getting slammed. Zero could tell the press to go F themselves and they’d probably laugh and then try to do it - all the while praising Zero for being so clever.
I blame the idiot media for much of what has gone wrong.
When DICK CHENEY speaks, I LISTEN! He makes more sense than the rest of them combined.
That’s funny...if a white “old” man is the face of the conservatives, where does a 30-year-old, white, soccer mom like me fit in? Hmmm...
Kennedy calls him a liar, and says thge war was concocted in Crawford, TX for political purposes... How the HELL do you NOT respond to that? The GOP leadership was mute.
OK thanks.
She doesn't like Obama any more than I do.
At the same time, that doesn't equate to jumping on the GOP's bandwagon if they keep recycling the same candidates with heavy baggage, and a lack of fiscal responsibility over and over again.
We need candidates who can articulate a fiscally conservative message to conservatives and moderates of both parties. When we do that, conservatism will rule the day.
Cheney is not associated with fiscal conservatism in the minds of voters. That may be unfair, but he is polarizing and unpopular among moderates.
Until we do those things (run a fiscal conservative who people identify as fiscally conservative), I doubt it'll make much of a difference what Obama does or doesn't do.
RE: “I hate to hijack this thread, but I was looking at some statistics this morning re. the Ca vote yesterday. It was county-by-county election results. Orange county had one of the largest disparities between ‘yes’ and ‘no’ votes while Marin county had one of the smallest, yet it looked like there was this 30% ‘yes’ vote across the board throughout the state and I’m wondering what that was—state workers, illegals, liberals, all the above......? What are your thoughts?”
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Voters whose employers told them to vote ‘yes’ on these measure were probably the primary group voting ‘yes.’ The average Obama voter did not bother voting at all, if they even knew there was an election.
Yes, OC and San Diego counties showed the greatest disparity between Yes and No, mostly because they still have relatively high center to right-of-center voters. Marin — the great socialist county in the north, among others, had the most YES votes. That’s Pelosi country up there.
I know that school employees, other state workers and unions would have voted YES since they tend to lose out with the NO votes. But this time even a few run-of-the-mill libs probably voted NO because they simply are sick of all the taxes.
The posts are a consequence of the treads they are in.
With Cheney I guess trying to rehab his image in order to sell a book later there are a lot of Bush legacy threads.
I can’t think of another reason why Cheney would be so visible right now, he does NOT want to run for office again.
I don’t think Cheney cares about his image...I think he is speaking out because of love of this country and the fact that all the sorry feces in the Republican party are silent. We are lacking a leader and Cheney is that leader presently.
One Obama supporter was at the BART transit stop the evening prior to the election, handing out fliers. But there were none of them at all at the polling place the following morning. I was one of two people in line there. Turnout was below 15% in my county (Alameda).
The sad part is, we will need to (and I believe will) endure a chilling winter of recession, possibly even depression, before this becomes fully apparent. And in the meantime, the other side will not be "wasting a crisis." So it will be an uphill battle, but for different reasons than you envision.
Alameda County... Now there’s a real bastion of conservatism ;-)
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