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Science Fiction as Political Allegory: the upcoming "V" reboot
SciFi Wire ^ | 5/20/09 | Vanity

Posted on 05/20/2009 7:51:00 PM PDT by Salgak

So you may have heard that ABC is doing a remake of the 80s television miniseries, "V".

Trailer is at the link above.

What's interesting is the angle: Devotion is the weapon, a carefully crafted message from the Visitors of Change and Hope. And a good-looking, charismatic spokeperson, with demands for a perfectly controlled image.

I wonder if ABC realizes JUST how subversive it is, especially as the bloom comes off the Administration. It's even identified by a single letter.

And, of course, the bringers of Change and Hope are hiding their true face, and have sinister ambitions.

Sound familiar ???? (evil grin)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: genx; hopenchange; obama; v

1 posted on 05/20/2009 7:51:01 PM PDT by Salgak
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To: Salgak

Can they repackage it as “O”?


2 posted on 05/20/2009 7:54:04 PM PDT by BipolarBob (It takes a Kenyan village to raise a US president.)
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To: Salgak

Well, they could call it “O” but that would be too obvious.


3 posted on 05/20/2009 7:54:54 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: Salgak

It is less veiled than we are hinting at.. they even talk about the aliens wanting to bring ‘hope...’ and we should ‘..embrace their change’..


4 posted on 05/20/2009 7:56:41 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Salgak
As long as we're rebooting all things 70's and 80's, I'd really like a reboot of They Live. It is still appropriate to our time, maybe even more so today.
5 posted on 05/20/2009 7:57:39 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Salgak

Save it, burn it to DVD, rip it to your hard drive.

ABC has a history with minis like this (”Path to 9/11”, “Amerika”). It’ll air once and be buried forever.


6 posted on 05/20/2009 7:57:41 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: BipolarBob

I would call it O-MG


7 posted on 05/20/2009 7:59:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Salgak

I’m not falling for it. Sci-fi channel is an appendage of NBC Universal. There’s got to be a twist where they blame conservatives or Christians for something.


8 posted on 05/20/2009 7:59:45 PM PDT by PressurePoint (Conservative = Liberty, Security, Prosperity)
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To: Salgak

Awesome!
But will it feature Robert Englund?


9 posted on 05/20/2009 8:01:01 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: Salgak
What's interesting is the angle: Devotion is the weapon, a carefully crafted message from the Visitors of Change and Hope. And a good-looking, charismatic spokesperson, with demands for a perfectly controlled image.

It all makes sense now! Obama is an extraterrestrial reptile! Rip some of his skin off, like in the original movie, to expose his true identity!

10 posted on 05/20/2009 8:01:37 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Salgak

The original V was modeled after the 1935 political book “It can’t happen Here”

Here is it’s plot from Wikipedia:

Berzelius “Buzz” Windrip, a charismatic but power-hungry politician, is elected President of the United States on a populist platform, promising to restore the country to prosperity and greatness. Once in power, however, he becomes a dictator, outlawing dissent and putting his political enemies in concentration camps. As Windrip dismantles democracy, most Americans either support him wholeheartedly or reassure themselves that fascism cannot happen in America (hence the book’s title).

One of the few who openly oppose Windrip’s regime is journalist Doremus Jessup, who writes editorials decrying the state’s abuses of power. Shad LeDue, head of the state police and Jessup’s former employee, terrorizes Jessup, eventually putting him in a camp. He also goes after Jessup’s family, attempting to seduce Jessup’s daughter, Sissy. Eventually, however, Ledue falls out of favor with Windrip, who puts him in the same camp as Jessup. Against Jessup’s protestations, the other prisoners gang up on Ledue and murder him.

While Jessup languishes in prison, Windrip’s hold on power begins to weaken; the economic prosperity he promises has not materialized, and more and more people are fleeing to Canada to escape his government’s brutality. Eventually, Windrip’s lieutenants stage a coup and exile him to France. In the ensuing power vacuum, they fight among themselves for control, setting the stage for the regime’s self-destruction.

With help from a sympathetic guard, Jessup escapes from the camp, rejoins his family, and goes to Canada join a resistance movement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Can%27t_Happen_Here


11 posted on 05/20/2009 8:09:50 PM PDT by aft_lizard (One animal actually eats its own brains to conserve energy, we call them liberals.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
I'd really like a reboot of They Live. It is still appropriate to our time, maybe even more so today.

*snort* That one was SO bad, it was fun watching!

12 posted on 05/20/2009 8:13:39 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

“V” had it’s moments. For a kid at the time, it was interesting to watch.


13 posted on 05/20/2009 8:17:45 PM PDT by ak267
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To: Vince Ferrer

You’d never be able to do it justice today. It is just to Awesome on its own. You can’t outdo “I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I’m all out of bubblegum. “


14 posted on 05/20/2009 8:21:28 PM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: Salgak

15 posted on 05/20/2009 8:22:04 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: Dallas59
Most excellent, very nice..........and very believable
16 posted on 05/20/2009 8:27:27 PM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Time to dig out the pitchforks and torches...............)
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To: PressurePoint
Sci-fi channel is an appendage of NBC Universal.

It is going to be on ABC Network, not the Sci-Fi Channel.

17 posted on 05/20/2009 8:31:28 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Years ago, there was an article by the author of the story They Live was based on about “The Science Fiction Attitude”. He purposely wrote the story about a character with no name, no family, no background, and so on just to show that a science fiction idea and some attitude could carry a story.


18 posted on 05/20/2009 8:36:24 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: SuziQ; Chipper
Obey
19 posted on 05/20/2009 8:42:23 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

I thought of this one too. I googled it and it’s available as a google video.


20 posted on 05/20/2009 8:49:41 PM PDT by BipolarBob (It takes a Kenyan village to raise a US president.)
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To: Dallas59

Sp0ck


21 posted on 05/20/2009 8:50:38 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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22 posted on 05/20/2009 9:20:48 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Salgak
0-3
23 posted on 05/20/2009 9:52:08 PM PDT by odin2008 (Everything in the universe is subject to change.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

LOL! Roddy Piper spent almost that whole movie just AGAPE!


24 posted on 05/20/2009 10:30:32 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: BipolarBob

“Can they repackage it as “O”?”

Maybe “OY!” is more appropriate.


25 posted on 05/20/2009 10:39:20 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Dallas59

That is insulting to Spock, really. Barry doesn’t do ANYTHING logical!


26 posted on 05/21/2009 3:26:48 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Salgak
Amazing that ABC is running this series.

They must be blind if they can not see the similarities.

During the original series I could never get past the part where they swallowed rats whole.

27 posted on 05/21/2009 3:34:07 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: mware
But that was Jane Badler swallowing!

Mmmm...Jane Badler...I'll be in my bunk.

28 posted on 05/21/2009 4:12:49 AM PDT by Jonah Hex ("Never underestimate the hungover side of the Force.")
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To: Salgak

I always thought that Tom Daschle was just one of the lizard aliens with a plastic skin. As I recall from the original series a weak American President allowed the “Vistors” to easily take over.


29 posted on 05/21/2009 4:57:55 AM PDT by The Great RJ (chain.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Yes! ‘They Live’ is a classic.


30 posted on 05/21/2009 5:13:50 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Dallas59

Totally unfair to Vulcans. They embrace logic, and deny emotion.


31 posted on 05/21/2009 5:56:52 AM PDT by NotQuiteCricket ("Guns kill people like spoons make people fat.")
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To: NotQuiteCricket

But an “evil vulcan” might use the emotions of others to manipulate them to achieve a goal that he deems logical,

like “superior elite people such as myself need total power to implement our vision for society” might be a logical conclusion, devoid of emotion.


32 posted on 05/21/2009 6:02:46 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: MrB

I think O is a loony sociopath. But that is just my opinion.
He is doing best to destroy the country. Starting with the
economy, and moving on from there.
Of course, to want to be president, you have to have the belief
that you know what is best.
Voting public’s fault for falling for emotion, instead of
logic.


33 posted on 05/21/2009 6:08:55 AM PDT by NotQuiteCricket ("Guns kill people like spoons make people fat.")
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To: PressurePoint

The mesage will be that us violent, unthinking brutes on Earth really DO have something to learn from the aliens, and that we really CAN have change if we just have hope.

I predict very little flesh-eating violence on the part of the Obama admini... I mean, the aliens.


34 posted on 05/21/2009 6:31:00 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A GUTLESS SOCIALIST LOSER WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Only if they kept in Teh Best Fight Scene. Evah!


35 posted on 05/21/2009 6:51:45 AM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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To: Salgak; Landru

I always thought “V” was forgotten because it
tore the mask off of liberalism. This re”V”i”V”al
makes me “V”ery happy.

Life imitating art, imitating life.


36 posted on 05/21/2009 6:59:38 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Salgak
To Serve Man
Series: The Twilight Zone
Writer: Rod Serling, based on the story by Damon Knight
Director: Richard L. Bare

Apparently benign alien emissaries show mankind how to end the misery of war, plague and famine. The Kanamits, nine-foot tall aliens, arrive on Earth with one lofty goal: To Serve Man. They end war, they end famine. They make the military wonder: what's the catch?

CAST: Richard Kiel, Hardie Albright, Robert Tafur, Lloyd Bochner, Lomax Study, Theodore Marcuse, Susan Cummings, Nelson Olmstead.

Watch it, or any other TZ episode, online for free at:
http://www.cbs.com/classics/the_twilight_zone/

See season 3, page 1. there are 3 seasons in all, each seasons page has 2 pages of listings.
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37 posted on 05/21/2009 7:02:38 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Jo Nuvark
"Life imitating art, imitating life."

Must take your word for [that], Mrs. N.
Never saw so much as a second of the program.
Nevertheless your judgment's as good as any I've [ever] read on the forum.

It's so if you say it's so, as far as I'm concerned. :^)

38 posted on 05/21/2009 7:31:24 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: Landru

‘Mornin’ Landru!


39 posted on 05/21/2009 7:35:26 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Salgak

Here’s something from the 80s to reboot:

Wolverines!!!


40 posted on 05/21/2009 3:06:10 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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