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Honda Insight 1.3 IMA SE Hybrid (Funny Review)
TimesOnline ^ | May 17, 2009 | Jeremy Clarkson

Posted on 05/21/2009 5:41:31 AM PDT by CSM

It’s terrible. Biblically terrible. Possibly the worst new car money can buy. It’s the first car I’ve ever considered crashing into a tree, on purpose, so I didn’t have to drive it any more...

The Honda’s petrol engine is a much-shaved, built-for-economy, low-friction 1.3 that, at full chat, makes a noise worse than someone else’s crying baby on an airliner. It’s worse than the sound of your parachute failing to open. Really, to get an idea of how awful it is, you’d have to sit a dog on a ham slicer...

The nickel for the battery has to come from somewhere. Canada, usually. It has to be shipped to Japan, not on a sailing boat, I presume. And then it must be converted, not in a tree house, into a battery, and then that battery must be transported, not on an ox cart, to the Insight production plant in Suzuka. And then the finished car has to be shipped, not by Thor Heyerdahl, to Britain, where it can be transported, not by wind, to the home of a man with a beard who thinks he’s doing the world a favour...

But let me be clear that hybrid cars are designed solely to milk the guilt genes of the smug and the foolish. And that pure electric cars, such as the G-Wiz and the Tesla, don’t work at all because they are just too inconvenient...

The only hope I have is that there are enough fools and madmen out there who will buy an Insight to look sanctimonious outside the school gates. And that the cash this generates can be used to develop something a bit more constructive.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: auto; environuts

1 posted on 05/21/2009 5:41:31 AM PDT by CSM
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To: CSM

thank you algore


2 posted on 05/21/2009 5:47:43 AM PDT by grandpa jones (obama must be exhausted, having to tote that giant brain of his around all the time.,.)
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To: CSM

Funny. But expect more of the same from Obama Motors


3 posted on 05/21/2009 5:49:38 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED. Barack OBORTION is a close second.)
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To: CSM

Dear Chrysler Corp,

Why didn't you build this car 20 years ago? It is a bit late. The wine and chesse crowd wil make you produce gutless pieces of crap in the name of "climate control". What took so long?

4 posted on 05/21/2009 5:57:02 AM PDT by central_va (www.15thVirginia.org Co. C, Patrick Henry Rifles)
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To: CSM

Honda Insight 1.3 IMA SE Hybrid

The Clarksometer :

Honda Insight 1.3 IMA SE Hybrid

Engine 1399cc, four cylinders

Power 87bhp@5800rpm

Torque 89 lb ft @ 4500rpm

Transmission CVT

Fuel 64.2mpg (combined)

CO2 101g/km

Acceleration 0-62mph: 12.5sec

Top speed 113mph

Price £15,490

Road tax band B (£15 a year)

Clarkson's verdict

"Good only for parting the smug from their money"

5 posted on 05/21/2009 6:00:58 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: CSM
The nickel for the battery has to come from somewhere. Canada, usually. It has to be shipped to Japan, not on a sailing boat, I presume. And then it must be converted, not in a tree house, into a battery, and then that battery must be transported, not on an ox cart, to the Insight production plant in Suzuka. And then the finished car has to be shipped, not by Thor Heyerdahl, to Britain, where it can be transported, not by wind, to the home of a man with a beard who thinks he’s doing the world a favour...

But let me be clear that hybrid cars are designed solely to milk the guilt genes of the smug and the foolish.

Thank you Mr Clarkson.


6 posted on 05/21/2009 6:01:45 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: CSM

excellent!


7 posted on 05/21/2009 6:01:50 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: silverleaf

Insightful.


8 posted on 05/21/2009 6:07:21 AM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: CSM

“But let me be clear that hybrid cars are designed solely to milk the guilt genes of the smug and the foolish. And that pure electric cars, such as the G-Wiz and the Tesla, don’t work at all because they are just too inconvenient... “

Clarkson hates American cars. I’ve seen him really skewer the older Corvette model I own. But this is great stuff. I have newfound respect.


9 posted on 05/21/2009 6:16:00 AM PDT by brownsfan (Kool aid comes in two new flavors: Hope and Change.)
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To: CSM
I saw this .. on my SW PA, 65MPH highway doing maybe 50.

Almost rearended it.

It's called Smartfortwo.

10 posted on 05/21/2009 6:20:06 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: CSM

The great fuel mileage is because Honda uses a diesel engine in the European versions of their hybrids that really makes great mpg.

Here in the US, diesel has been effectively killed by the anti-truck crowd.


11 posted on 05/21/2009 6:20:17 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: knarf
Compare ...
12 posted on 05/21/2009 6:24:34 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: CSM
A not so "Smart Car" crash.

You don't want to know about the driver.
Just don't a loved one buy one.

13 posted on 05/21/2009 6:27:36 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: brownsfan

Just so you know, Jeremy owns and drives a C6. He is a a real supporter.


14 posted on 05/21/2009 6:27:55 AM PDT by BillM
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To: brownsfan
I saw an episode of TOP GEAR where he absolutely raved about the Ford GT...


15 posted on 05/21/2009 6:33:39 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: BillM

Youtube smart car crashes. These things bounce!


16 posted on 05/21/2009 6:40:33 AM PDT by ebshumidors
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To: knarf
It's called Smartfortwo.

You know why, don't ya?

You get two products for the price of one:

1) Pregnant Rollerskate.

2) Coffin.

17 posted on 05/21/2009 6:45:40 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

heh heh heh .... yeahhhhh.


18 posted on 05/21/2009 6:46:38 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: brownsfan

I sent this to a friend and she told me that he once had an article that stated if we wanted to really improve the safety of cars, then we would remove the brakes and add a big spike to the center of the steering wheel.

I am a new fan.


19 posted on 05/21/2009 6:47:21 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: Rummyfan
raved about the Ford GT...

I need a drool pad for my keyboard...

20 posted on 05/21/2009 6:48:03 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
That's too bad, because lots of the current mid-size and almost full size sedans in the USA now get about 25 MPG. Doing little more than plopping in some of these high tech small diesels would jump that to 35 MPG or so... and then you're already withing shouting distance of the new 39 MPG standard bandied about this week.

This would be one much less painful way to get to the new CAFE goal.

But don't forget the $64,000 question... is there enough diesel refinery capacity to make such a wholesale switchover from gas to diesel in a few years?

NOPE!

21 posted on 05/21/2009 6:48:47 AM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: knarf

I was walking along the other day and saw one of these. I instinctively started pointing and laughing. After it passed, I realized how ironic it is that as a pedestrian I was still making fun of that particular vehicle.


22 posted on 05/21/2009 6:51:36 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: CSM

—Really, to get an idea of how awful it is, you’d have to sit a dog on a ham slicer... —

Yikes!!


23 posted on 05/21/2009 6:53:03 AM PDT by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: McGruff

That’s not a smart car. I mean, seriously, that’s not what kind of car that is. It’s a VW CrossFox mini SUV.


24 posted on 05/21/2009 6:55:10 AM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: brownsfan

He toasted the Corvettes.
Until the ZR-1 kicked ass on The Ring and on his own test track.

He picked it as his car of the year.

I loved it when he poked his finger into the flimsy plastic rear fascia of the Corvette and compared it to a “boy band”.

“Looks good at first glance, but utterly talentless.”


25 posted on 05/21/2009 6:56:51 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: yankeedame
Check this out..... see a resemblence? It is a 1966 Honda.


26 posted on 05/21/2009 6:58:39 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Crucify ! Crucify ! Crucify him!!)
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To: Rummyfan

Yep.
Then he bought one.
And it was delivered eight months late.
And then it wouldn’t start and had to be shipped back.
And then the NASA-designed car alarm started calling his cell phone at 3am (true).

And then he sold it.
And bought another one.

And sold that.

The Ford GT was, for Clarkson, a lesson in desire, desparation and depression.


27 posted on 05/21/2009 7:00:18 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: willgolfforfood
“and then you're already withing shouting distance of the new 39 MPG standard bandied about this week.”

Our 98 Ford Contour 5 speed stick shift (4 cylinder) will get nearly that cruising on the freeway.

28 posted on 05/21/2009 7:05:28 AM PDT by Western Phil
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To: knarf

I saw one of these parked with a For Sale By Owner sign on the rear window.

I thought they ought to have a picture of that in the dictionary under "Buyer's Remorse."

29 posted on 05/21/2009 7:06:04 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: willgolfforfood

Don’t confuse EPA (sticker) mileage with CAFE mileage.

They are two different animals done under different testing schemes.


30 posted on 05/21/2009 7:08:49 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: knarf

Is this the future of NASCAR?


31 posted on 05/21/2009 7:10:29 AM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: Rummyfan

Now that’s a nice car, and I am (was) a Chevy man.


32 posted on 05/21/2009 7:14:47 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Yes, but my point is - regardless of which standard you use - you get about 75-80% of the way there, just by switching to these small, high-tech diesels.


33 posted on 05/21/2009 7:23:21 AM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: McGruff

Wow! I bet the ME had to scrape various parts of the driver off a thousand different pieces.


34 posted on 05/21/2009 7:24:53 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: yankeedame

My motorcycle makes more HP than that. And it is a 750cc engine.


35 posted on 05/21/2009 7:27:38 AM PDT by Betis70 (Keep working serf, Zero's in charge)
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To: knarf

One of the smug drivers of those little tin cans (or is it a plastic can?) drove in my blind spot for 20 minutes (these toy car drivers need to realize that when your car is really small the other driver’s blind spot is comparably huge). It’s so darned small that I could barely see it out of the window of my minivan. These cars are accidents waiting to happen.


36 posted on 05/21/2009 7:35:36 AM PDT by keepitreal (Obama brings change: an international crisis (terrorism) within 6 months)
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To: AFreeBird
"Wow! I bet the ME had to scrape various parts of the driver off a thousand different pieces."

Nope, just a cotton swab for DNA to identify and then bury the whole thing at the funeral.

37 posted on 05/21/2009 7:36:16 AM PDT by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: knarf

My boss, a huge guy, maybe 6’-3” tall and wide shoulders, commutes daily in one of these things. I think he drives about 40 miles each way. Yikes!


38 posted on 05/21/2009 7:43:02 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: willgolfforfood
...you are within shouting distance of the new 39 MPG standard bandied about this week.

OK, think this through. If EVERYBODY drove the car you describe, we would just barely meet the new Obama standard. If one person bought a 12 mpg SUV, you no longer meet your CAFE requirements.

So, to meet the corporate efficiency standard, each SUV will require the car company to sell about 10 cars at 45 mpg or 100 cars at 42 mpg.

Folks, this new action by the commie has effectively outlawed any car or truck or SUV below 30 - 32 mpg. Big V8s are gone. Large 6's are gone. Most cars and trucks will have to be high turbocharged diesels with 4 bangers.

Your freedom to choose a product that you personally like, that will protect you and your family, is GONE.

39 posted on 05/21/2009 7:48:02 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Rummyfan
I loved his review of the Bugatti Veyron


40 posted on 05/21/2009 7:49:20 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Well I'm an engineer, just mulling the technical capability of getting from here to there. If we do it with gasoline engines, we'll all be driving glorified golf carts/death traps in a few years.

I agree with you about the loss of freedom, though. We have enough federal regulations in this country now that a mid-size library can't even hold them all, and every one is a loss of freedom.

Low flush toilets. Banning of conventional incandescent light bulbs. And millions upon millions more.

This experiment in freedom has run it's course.

41 posted on 05/21/2009 7:53:02 AM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: willgolfforfood

Now we have two choices for our next experiment. Servitude and slavery, or revolution, and death (for many). We should have tried freedom a little longer.


42 posted on 05/21/2009 8:04:34 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: CSM
No more of these...

Burnin' the Weenies

Every time the muscle cars get good, the government comes along and pees in the soup.

43 posted on 05/21/2009 8:26:45 AM PDT by jimt
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To: knarf

The Fortwo will go a whole lot faster than 50 MPH. At least they do in Germany.


44 posted on 05/21/2009 10:27:17 AM PDT by sionnsar ((Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | "Also sprach Telethustra" - NonValueAdded)
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To: sionnsar

Just sayin’ what I drove up on ... I was sorta’ fixated on this go cart in my way, and the hammer lane was full ... so I had to slow down ..... a LOT.


45 posted on 05/21/2009 10:31:58 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: CSM

Let’s see, I can give my money to a Japanese car company or to Saudi Arabia, Mexico and Venezuela. Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuh!


46 posted on 05/21/2009 10:35:56 AM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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To: knarf

I ran into a sorta similar situation with a Jaguar this morning. One lane only, commute time, and they were WAY under the limit.


47 posted on 05/21/2009 10:41:01 AM PDT by sionnsar ((Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | "Also sprach Telethustra" - NonValueAdded)
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To: willgolfforfood
Actually, getting there shouldn't be difficult at all. Just go down in the third subbasement below GM and root around in the archives until you find the plans for the 100 mpg carburetor. Everybody knows that the oil companies and car companies were in cahoots from the 40s to 60s to quash it. The guy that finds those plans will be a millionaire overnight!

BTW, our new GE dishwasher won't dry the dishes and the new Kohler faucet on the kitchen sink takes forever to fill the sink with water. GE told me it's because of federal regs that reduced the power of the heaters by half to save energy. It sure does save energy because the damn dishes are still wet when the cycle is finished. And I can't find the hidden flow restrictor in the faucet.

I sure miss the good old days when companies thrived or died on how well they me consumer needs, not how well they served their government masters. I can only imagine what it will be like 25 or 50 years hence.

48 posted on 05/21/2009 6:30:59 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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