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Ida: the Real Story of this “Scientific Breakthrough”
AiG ^ | May 21, 2009

Posted on 05/21/2009 10:38:06 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

So-called “missing link” Ida hit the media in a major way on Monday of this week, with even search engine Google falling prey to the hype and modifying its search page banner to show Ida. We quickly responded with a full article, Ida: the Missing Link at Last?

Yet within a few hours of the unveiling of the fossil—coordinated to coincide with the publication of the scientific paper on Ida—some better media outlets began to report some worrying things about the research. It seems as though the scientific process had been rushed and the claims exaggerated in a bid to promote a new documentary and book on the fossil. Sadly, media pressures sometimes trump full research integrity (something we’ve seen before), and careless media sources reprint explosive (and unjustified) quotations without consulting as many scientists as they should. Thankfully, though, many in the scientific community are questioning the research and beginning to become more vocal about their concerns regarding how good science and media aren’t the best mix.

But don’t just take our word for it—read these amazing excerpts that reveal the Ida hype for what it truly is...

(Excerpt) Read more at answersingenesis.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: creation; darwiniusmasillae; evolution; goodgodimnutz; ida; intelligentdesign
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To: CottShop

Spell check?


21 posted on 05/21/2009 11:20:46 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: GodGunsGuts
A recent study came out that shows that Evo-atheists are far more likely than Bible-believing Christians to believe in everything from astrology, to big foot, to little green men on Mars.

More of your typical BS.

22 posted on 05/21/2009 11:23:47 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: nuke rocketeer

We do. That is one of the reasons why the HMS Creation is standing tall, and the HMS Beagle is sinking. The real “bozos” are those who believe that random processes and survival produce super-sophisticated bio-nano machines that merely give the “appearance” of being designed for a purpose. Who knew blind materialist processes could be such masters of illusion!

Let’s face it, the Temple of Darwin has lost its “tree of life”, has lost it’s prediction of “junk” DNA, has lost it’s phylogenetic predictions, is losing uniformitarianism in favor of catastrophism, and let’s not forget that its fortunes have not gotten any better (indeed, they have gotten far worse) in the other areas creation scientists have traditionally pointed to, such as the fossil record, cell complexity, etc, etc.

But don’t worry, the HMS Creation stands ready to rescue you when the call goes out from the HMS Beagle to abandon ship!


23 posted on 05/21/2009 11:24:23 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Jeff Gordon
You think exaggerating the significance of a find for the sake of press points is "science"? Evolution must be in more trouble than I thought.

Shalom.

24 posted on 05/21/2009 11:27:01 AM PDT by Buggman (HebrewRoot.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Jeff Gordon

Judging by the press reports, it sounds like the Evos are the ones who are starting to panic. Creationists are comfortably sitting back watching the Evos self destruct. Ida is just the latest example of another “missing link” that is going to blow up in the Evos faces. It seems the Evos capacity for destroying their own reputations knows no bounds...which works out very nicely for us :o)


25 posted on 05/21/2009 11:28:22 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Misterioso

Lucky indeed.


26 posted on 05/21/2009 11:33:04 AM PDT by beefree (Love the sinner, hate the sin)
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To: GodGunsGuts

So, is this just another tadpole fossil they named “Ida” to make it seem they are soing something important for all that taxpayers money?


27 posted on 05/21/2009 11:33:18 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Misterioso

That’s what the study found. Evo-atheists are among the most superstitious people in the population:

http://www.verumserum.com/?p=2667


28 posted on 05/21/2009 11:33:43 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Jeff Gordon

You call that science? HAHAHAHA!


29 posted on 05/21/2009 11:35:54 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: GodGunsGuts

I’m right with you there. If evo were real, what explains WHY it happened? What caused that little one-celled organism to decide that it needed to split, see, hear, taste, feel, breathe, copulate, etc.?


30 posted on 05/21/2009 11:36:06 AM PDT by bonnieblue4me (You can put lipstick on a donkey (or a dimrat), but it is still an ass!)
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To: nuke rocketeer
Why don’t you creationist bozos give your own seriously flawed theory the same critique that most real scientists give their own pet theories.

Right on, NR, and we can use this "Ida" story as a model for our approach.

31 posted on 05/21/2009 11:36:38 AM PDT by Robwin
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To: CottShop

Wow...talk about integrating your superstitions!


32 posted on 05/21/2009 11:48:14 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Evo-atheists are among the most superstitious people in the population:

Only once you define belief in things like a worldwide flood, angels, and such as "not superstitious." The study found that 55 percent of the people surveyed said they had been protected from harm by a guardian angel--not just that they had a guardian angel, but that the angel had actually intervened to help them. Seems to me that the distinction between "religion" and "supersition" can get pretty thin, and it's a bias in the study to put some things on one side and some things on the other.

33 posted on 05/21/2009 11:53:32 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: GodGunsGuts

My main test on the intellectual honesty of the creationistas:

How old is the universe?
How old is the solar system?
How old is the Earth?
Is the speed of light a universal constant?
DO you ‘believe’ in nuclear physics?


34 posted on 05/21/2009 11:59:22 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: Jeff Gordon; GodGunsGuts

Its amazing what the evolutionist will call science. There are no limits to what they will call science as long as it hues to an evolutionist end.


35 posted on 05/21/2009 12:07:54 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: nuke rocketeer

As usual, the darwin-drones are way behind the times.

YEC cosmologists hold that distant galaxies are billions of years old, and our galaxy thousands of years old, and yet both owe their existence to the SAME creation event. If you are bewildered, you might want to read up on gravitational time dilation (and read Dr. Humphreys book “Starlight and Time”).

The Evo-big bangers were the ones who proposed that light speed might be variable to solve their own horizon problem re: CMB. Again, you are way behind the times.


36 posted on 05/21/2009 12:08:46 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

You just confirmed my previous estimate of your intellectual capacity. Pretty close to zero.

Answer the questions I asked you!


37 posted on 05/21/2009 12:12:34 PM PDT by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: nuke rocketeer
Actually, I was just thinking the same thing about you. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Go educate yourself and get back to me when you have at least learned the basics of modern Creation Science. In the meantime, you are free to continue pooring milk over your Darwin idols.


38 posted on 05/21/2009 12:21:14 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I noticed that some of those evolutionists who showed up yesterday to make fun of the first article by ICR kind of quieted down when major news articles came out saying the same thing.


39 posted on 05/21/2009 1:12:09 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: GodGunsGuts
It seems as though the scientific process had been rushed and the claims exaggerated in a bid to promote a new documentary and book on the fossil. Sadly, media pressures sometimes trump full research integrity (something we’ve seen before), and careless media sources reprint explosive (and unjustified) quotations without consulting as many scientists as they should. Thankfully, though, many in the scientific community are questioning the research and beginning to become more vocal about their concerns regarding how good science and media aren’t the best mix.

Yup, and if anyone points it out, they get attacked by the hissy-fit liberals exclaiming any examination, any ciritique is anti-science religious assaults on their cult.

40 posted on 05/21/2009 1:14:27 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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