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Ex-GI spared death in Iraqi girl's rape, killing
MSNBC ^ | May 21, 2009

Posted on 05/21/2009 3:21:54 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

PADUCAH, Ky. - A federal jury spared a former soldier Thursday of the death penalty for his conviction on raping and fatally shooting a 14-year-old girl after killing her parents and younger sister while he was serving in Iraq.

Pfc. Steven Dale Green will be sentenced to life, capping an unusual case of a crime in a war zone being prosecuted in civilian court.

Green, 24, of Midland, Texas, was being tried in federal court because he had been discharged from the Army for a personality disorder before he was charged with the Iraq crimes.

Green's defense team had asked them to consider the "context" of war, saying soldiers in Green's unit of the 101st Airborne Division lacked leadership. Defense attorneys also said the Army missed signs that Green was struggling after the loss of friends in combat and that it offered little help to him and other soldiers in his unit.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airborne; army

1 posted on 05/21/2009 3:21:54 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“personality disorder”
So that is what they call the actions of people who act like that!!


2 posted on 05/21/2009 3:25:35 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotlme)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We’re going soft.


3 posted on 05/21/2009 3:26:00 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In the old days there wouldn’t had been any quibbling. He would had been strung up and made an example of. Afterwhich, the body would be cut down and put in a common grave.


4 posted on 05/21/2009 3:28:33 PM PDT by ak267
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I think the jury made a mistake here. Given the type of crime and the terror this animal caused, I don't see the need for Mercy. And I'm tired of being told “he is not responsible”. I'm sorry for the 14 yr old and her family. Not this piece of slime.
5 posted on 05/21/2009 3:29:06 PM PDT by a02001 (Help the third world poor one person at a time- www.kiva.org)
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To: handy old one
So, he'll be on our streets in 20 years. Great...
6 posted on 05/21/2009 3:29:18 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: ak267
In the old days there wouldn’t had been any quibbling. He would had been strung up and made an example of.

Or he would have made a "deal."

7 posted on 05/21/2009 3:30:05 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We should give him to the Iraqis and let them deal with his sorry ass.


8 posted on 05/21/2009 3:30:53 PM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

While I do have a lot of sympathy for our men who go through terrible times, I don’t think I’d excuse them for raping young girls and committing murder.

He deserves to pay for his crimes, and the death penalty seems fitting here.


9 posted on 05/21/2009 3:31:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama is mentally a child of ten. Just remember that when he makes statements and issues policy.)
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To: handy old one

“personality disorder”

Sociopath.

Fills our prisons.

Usually needs a bullet to the brain.


10 posted on 05/21/2009 3:33:17 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: Dixie Yooper

If you know how to play the game you can convince any one you are crazy or sane by how you play the game.


11 posted on 05/21/2009 3:33:20 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotlme)
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To: Chickensoup

Good case for high speed lead poisoning.


12 posted on 05/21/2009 3:34:35 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotlme)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This guy should have been hanged...there’s no excuse for what he did to this little girl and his family.


13 posted on 05/21/2009 3:39:56 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Firing squad.


14 posted on 05/21/2009 3:41:03 PM PDT by Ronin (Moderate Taliban? Oxymoron. Obama voters? Plain morons.)
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To: dfwgator

You’d have to wonder whether even The Dirty Dozen would want him. Remember what happened with Maggot?

I’d have to wonder why this wasn’t dealt to by the Iraqi courts. They *do* have courts and they *do* have democracy now. Perhaps he ought to have been turned over to them for sentencing? They’ve had plenty of practise with death penalty cases and, so far, none of their cases have come back before the courts on recidivist offenses.


15 posted on 05/21/2009 3:42:29 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

UCMJ - The maximum penalty for rape IS death.
Maybe that is why they got this into civilian courts, because they could play the ‘mentally unstable’ / ‘personality disorder’ card.

Screw that, the guy should have hung for his crime.


16 posted on 05/21/2009 3:45:10 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This guy is a monster. No need to keep him alive. Crimes that horrific require an equally horrific punishment. Death.


17 posted on 05/21/2009 3:45:11 PM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Now, deport 'em to Iraq.
18 posted on 05/21/2009 3:46:53 PM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: fleagle

It’s easy.
Supply his cell with a length of rope.
He’ll take care of it in less than a year.

Actually I think it should be law for every cell
be supplied with a length of rope 6 ft min.


19 posted on 05/21/2009 4:23:52 PM PDT by squibs
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To: squibs

And an eyelet in the ceiling sufficient to hold 5oo LBS.


20 posted on 05/21/2009 4:27:45 PM PDT by squibs
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You can make a defense for killing civilians in a war zone in a fit of combat induced rage. Killing is a part of war, men can get caught up in that. In this case though, even that defense doesn’t hold up well. Then there is the matter of rape. Rape has nothing to do with combat. He should have been tried and hung swiftly while still in country. The Iraqi family should have been invited to watch.


21 posted on 05/21/2009 4:39:44 PM PDT by azcap (Who is John Galt ? www.conservativeshirts.com)
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To: squibs
Western Christian civilization typically operated on the premise that the State executing a prisoner convicted of capital offenses is not a sin ,but suicide is the unpardonable sin;therefore the priest or minister offering God's forgiveness before the criminal pays for his crime.

I think this scumbag should have been executed by the military,both because of the nature of his crimes and to show we won't tolerate our soldiers committing actual atrocities.

22 posted on 05/21/2009 4:44:56 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: handy old one
No.

Borderline Personality Disorder pretty much gets down to having a condition that creates an inherent inability to obey orders or work with group dynamics.

It's more complex than that description but it explains why soldiers discovered to have the problem are simply discharged.

You might have been praying to God every evening in your foxhole to be let out of the Army early, but unless you exhibited this disorder (or got wounded, or suffered frostbite, etc.) they wouldn't let you out.

Yet, these guys got out with no problem ~ and usually without doing anything.

Frequently the problem manifests itself as self-destructive behavior ~ drinking, fighting, and so on.

The army considers it a pre-existing condition ~ not one they caused ~ and they don't provide these guys much post service support as a result.

This guy organized a group to rape and murder a 14 year old and kill her family. I suspect strongly he didn't suffer from Borderline Personality Disorder but rather from something far worse.

Try: http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/borderline-personality-disorder-fact-sheet/index.shtml

23 posted on 05/21/2009 4:47:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: azcap

“The Iraqi family should have been invited to watch.”

They wouldn’t have seen much.....he had already killed them.


24 posted on 05/21/2009 4:49:48 PM PDT by SoCalConservative
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Western Kentucky says it all as far as I am concerned. The killer got a fair trial. And they did spare his life.


25 posted on 05/21/2009 5:07:18 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: SIDENET
"We should give him to the Iraqis and let them deal with his sorry ass."

Correct. He committed his crime in Iraq, against an Iraqi family. Now that he has been sentenced to life imprisonment, let him serve his time in Iraqi prisons.

26 posted on 05/22/2009 3:05:51 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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