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New Study: Global Temperatures to Rise 9 Degrees by 2100
Reuters ^ | May 22, 2009

Posted on 05/22/2009 7:16:54 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

A new study, which researchers have called "the most exhaustive end-to-end analysis of climate change impacts yet performed", predicts that global warming could be twice as bad as previous estimates had suggested.

Published this month in the Journal of Climate, the MIT-based research found a 90% probability that worldwide surface temperatures will rise at least 9 degrees by 2100.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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1 posted on 05/22/2009 7:16:54 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It was 9C that is 13F according to the last report posted this morning.


2 posted on 05/22/2009 7:17:44 AM PDT by edcoil (IF CA rolls pollution standards back to 1990 levels, lets roll CA spending back as well.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
New Study: Global Temperatures to Rise 9 Degrees by 2100

Or not.

3 posted on 05/22/2009 7:20:52 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

don’t you think if weather could be predicted that farmers would be the richest segment of the population?


4 posted on 05/22/2009 7:21:22 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Newsflash: I won’t be here, nor will anyone I know, ergo I don’t care.

We’re going to do ourselves in by other methods way before any global warming does.


5 posted on 05/22/2009 7:23:05 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Is that with, or without, the hockey stick?


6 posted on 05/22/2009 7:23:34 AM PDT by RLM
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And here I forgot to wear my hip boots today...


7 posted on 05/22/2009 7:23:38 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
After Bambi's friends get nuclear weapons the surface temperature will increase 15,000 degrees for a few seconds...
8 posted on 05/22/2009 7:24:17 AM PDT by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I am going out on a limb...any predicting, by 2100, global temperatures will stay the same. If I am wrong...please come & find me for an apology...:o)


9 posted on 05/22/2009 7:24:21 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Someone needs to tell this guy.

10 posted on 05/22/2009 7:24:23 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I have some acres of what will soon be "subtropical" land available for immediate purchase.
It's just north of Fargo, ND...it is now, officially, "vacation" acreage.
It was offered at $19.83 per acre...and wasn't selling. Now, with the help of algore and his mock science, I can offer it for the incredibly cheap price of $192,399 an acre!

And I'm going to the bank to request some of that gummint money.....er.....I mean, a loan using my "vacation" property as collateral!

WWWWeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Ain't socialism a kick tho!?

11 posted on 05/22/2009 7:25:15 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (GM = Gummint Motors.)
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To: edcoil
This is from Reuters, the PR agency for the Left. Ignore it.
12 posted on 05/22/2009 7:26:24 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Pshaw..!

That’s nothing - The average temperature in the Northern hemisphere has risen thirty degrees in the past three months!


13 posted on 05/22/2009 7:26:41 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Can they accurately predict what the temperature is going to be this July?

I didn’t think so.


14 posted on 05/22/2009 7:26:54 AM PDT by earlJam
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed - and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” - H. L. Mencken

“The one thing everyman fears is the unknown. When presented this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of well being granted to them by World Government.” — Henry Kissinger, Amiens, France, 1991

Global water crisis...Global food shortage...Ozone hole.....Oceans dying....Global deforestation.....

I think the ‘global warming Boogyman” has just about outlived his 15 minutes of fame.

Wondering what the Moonbats will come up with next...


15 posted on 05/22/2009 7:27:52 AM PDT by glasseye
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

OH NO!! WE’VE GOT TO BUY BARRY’S LITTLE DEATHTRAP CARS.. ER.. HYPRIDS .. and vote for Socialism or we’re all going to die!!

.. so does this mean we’re going to see them ramping up this panic again? .. Oh ugh! .. that’s means we’ll see algore’s mug again? oh yuk.


16 posted on 05/22/2009 7:28:28 AM PDT by DDLL
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Looks like we should stock up on mittens and hats.
17 posted on 05/22/2009 7:29:19 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I can make a spreadsheet or Access database report output that it's going to rain gold coins every day for the next billion years.

Projections are always your agenda glorifed, but it's in truth just a powerball lottery pick off some shareware numbers generation program.

18 posted on 05/22/2009 7:30:11 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Computer model data = GIGO.

This is utter and complete NONSENSE. Facts may be obtained HERE.

19 posted on 05/22/2009 7:30:47 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This new “study”, which was just published, could not possibly have included recent measured data that shows that the Atlantic conveyor does not behave at all like it was thought...thus making all computer “studies” meaningless.

Also, most projections have the world in a cooling period for the next 15-25 years (or more).

The BS meter is reading “high”


20 posted on 05/22/2009 7:30:58 AM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well...I’m not sure that’s my idea of an ideal hot-day adult beverage... ;-)

This prediction, on the other hand, is the usual fantasy. It is no doubt based on the “latest models” and the “latest data” (which in the case of surface temperature measurements has been skewed upwards by shoddy scientific method, whatever the motive).

Note that it’s not “climate change” it’s “global warming” - if it were global cooling NONE of the proposed actions make sense. Since the climate is, in fact, cooling, we’ll see how long the charade can continue before there’s serious revolt. I suggest doing whatever you can to stop this thing, since long-term policy, trillions of dollars, and our future standard of living are all at stake!


21 posted on 05/22/2009 7:31:21 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: glasseye
Alinsky's Rules for Radicals

RULE 3: "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy." Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.

22 posted on 05/22/2009 7:32:20 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: edcoil

Man oh man, are we back on this global warming kick again....all the rave is cooling, cooling man, cooling.


23 posted on 05/22/2009 7:33:54 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

But, the bullshite will increase 200%, so don’t worry about the temp. increase.


24 posted on 05/22/2009 7:35:15 AM PDT by Waco (Libs exhale too much.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! I must run and tell the Messiah!


25 posted on 05/22/2009 7:35:42 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd be embarrased to be driving a Yaris....)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No problemo. Let’s just have Obama abort ALL babies. Without any progeny to worry about, who cares what the world will be like in 90 years? Eat, drink and be merry.


26 posted on 05/22/2009 7:37:29 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: glasseye
It's like Chairman Maobama’s Health care “CRISIS”. Create fear and panic and you get your way. Chicken Little, Lemmings stampeding for the cliffs, etc,,,.

It's like the story of the Three Little Pigs. The practical, skeptical and resourceful Pig who did not panic and built his house from brick, wound up saving and taking care of the other Liberal irresponsible Piggies.

Damn, I hate that thought!

27 posted on 05/22/2009 7:37:29 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Give me LIBERTY or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Nothing but pure, unfiltered, premium bullsh*t


28 posted on 05/22/2009 7:38:59 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Oh, goody! Another pack of geeks playing with a multi-million dollar SimEarth, and the sky is falling.

The whole climate-modelling business is the same sort of hubris that caused the financial crisis: people thinking they are so smart that they can predict a chaotic dynamical system with incomplete information. Market, climate, they both have the same properties that make medium-to-long term prediction intractable.

(And I’m betting their general circulation models still us the semi-infinite atmosphere solutions to the greenhouse equations, afflicting them not only with attempting to do the impossible—long term prediction of a system governed by non-linear PDE’s—but a healthy dose of “Garbage In”.)


29 posted on 05/22/2009 7:48:20 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
voodoo forecasting... ever notice that when the weather channel forecasts a week out, that by the time the next week arrives, the weather patterns changed... These clowns are forecasting a hundred years out!!! At least they won't be around to be made fun of when it turns out they were wrong.
30 posted on 05/22/2009 7:55:17 AM PDT by opaque soul (Condensing gas to solid state, truth the soul does make opaque.)
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To: edcoil

Nine degrees Celsius before 2100 AD means one degree C per decade. Not too awful hard to track. I’ll try to watch. I’m admittedly skeptical - hard mid-May frost zapped lotsa hickory and walnut buds in my yard the other day.


31 posted on 05/22/2009 7:55:41 AM PDT by flowerplough (Bammy: I'll take "Mortgaging our Children's Future with More and More Debt" for $1.7 trillion, Alex)
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To: The_Reader_David

“(And I’m betting their general circulation models still us the semi-infinite atmosphere solutions to the greenhouse equations, afflicting them not only with attempting to do the impossible—long term prediction of a system governed by non-linear PDE’s—but a healthy dose of “Garbage In”.)”

One of the macro-level issues with the models is whether increasing temperatures are a net “cloud cover reducer” or “cloud cover increaser”. The models currently in favor are in the first category, so increasing temperatures cause fewer clouds on average, and temperatures increase (positive feedback). It’s more likely that, barring other factors, increasing temperatures cause more clouds, which would cause negative feedback (more reflected energy, and less heating). There are many other complex areas that’re questionable, but clouds in particular are highly complex, difficult to model correctly, and as you say, chaotic

The other inputs that’re missing in all current models as far as I’m aware is any meaningful solar variability (this also varies in a complex way and isn’t well enough understood to model IMO), as well as volcanic activity. A few large volcanic eruptions, not all that unlikely, could alter the climate quite a bit over the coming decades.


32 posted on 05/22/2009 7:57:29 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: flowerplough

Where are you at - you don’t have a homepage setup.


33 posted on 05/22/2009 7:58:12 AM PDT by edcoil (IF CA rolls pollution standards back to 1990 levels, lets roll CA spending back as well.)
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To: Major Matt Mason
This is from Reuters, the PR agency for the Left. Ignore it.

AND sourced "Ecoworldly"

LOL!!

34 posted on 05/22/2009 8:02:35 AM PDT by sonofagun
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

Hmmm... Still quiescent, huh. God's answer to algorbull worming into our wallets.

35 posted on 05/22/2009 8:15:42 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

9°? Heck temps are up at least 50°F just in the past two months! We’ll all be roasted by summer. Roasted I tell ya!


36 posted on 05/22/2009 8:18:11 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Incompetence - that's change ain't it?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hmmm... may be that’s why yesterday we had the LOWEST high temperature on record for the date here in AZ...

LOL

I think they just want to suffocate the trees.


37 posted on 05/22/2009 8:47:55 AM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: Logic n' Reason
It's just north of Fargo, ND...

Seasonal waterfront? (obacure Spring in the Red RIver Valley joke...)

38 posted on 05/22/2009 8:56:44 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: glasseye
I think the ‘global warming Boogyman” has just about outlived his 15 minutes of fame.

Yabbut, the MSM and the 'political' "scientists" are still performing CPR on it while rigor mortis sets in...trying to ride that crisis into the sunset.

39 posted on 05/22/2009 8:59:14 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: edcoil

Where are I at? Northwestern half of northeastern Pennsylvania. Rocks, rattlesnakes, and Republicans. Our governor, Philadelphian Phast Eddie Rendell hates us, judging by the way he’s cut way back on road repairs and snowplowing. My whole county only has 6000 people. In a century and a half, we’ve seen tiny economic banglets from old-growth pine and hemlock, hard and soft coal, dairy farming, and re-growth hardwood timber. Now it’s super-deep natural gas frac wells.


40 posted on 05/22/2009 10:09:52 AM PDT by flowerplough (Bammy: I'll take "Mortgaging our Children's Future with More and More Debt" for $1.7 trillion, Alex)
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