Skip to comments.Obama vs Cheney
Posted on 05/22/2009 9:23:25 AM PDT by Sergeant Tim
Last night, Mark Levin compared the speech of President Barack Obama to remarks made by former Vice President Dick Cheney yesterday. (Full audio of Cheney speech here.):
There are flaws within these passages from what President Obama said yesterday:
Indeed, the legal challenges that have sparked so much debate in recent weeks in Washington would be taking place whether or not I decided to close Guantanamo. For example, the court order to release seventeen Uighur detainees took place last fall when George Bush was President. The Supreme Court that invalidated the system of prosecution at Guantanamo in 2006 was overwhelmingly appointed by Republican Presidents. ... In 2006, I did strongly oppose legislation proposed by the Bush Administration and passed by the Congress because it failed to establish a legitimate legal framework, with the kind of meaningful due process and rights for the accused that could stand up on appeal.
First off, our Supreme Court has yet to afford Constitutional due process to foreign enemies; in 2006, it said Congress must create the Commissions for the President to use. In addition Tom Joscelyn, on The Blog at The Weekly Standard, points out that Judge Urbina's order to bring the 17 Uighurs at Guantanamo into the United States and release them was invalidated in February by a higher court, We are certain that no habeas corpus court since the time of Edward I ever ordered such an extraordinary remedy.
As a friend put it yesterday:
They are hiding behind the courts. Obama again today made it sound like some flunky federal judge, some lower court judge ordered him to release Uihgurs into the US. As if a lower level judge can tell the president of the US what to do on matters of warfare and national security. Ridiculous. He pulled the same thing with the EIT memos ... as if there is no right of appeal, as if there is no executive privilege, as if there is no national security argument. He hides behind the courts, as if they are superior to the Executive Branch. That's how liberals think. It's undemocratic ... it's how they circumvent the People.
White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs twice this week said the Supreme Court has (Boumediene v Bush) "largely" found Military Commissions to be un-Constitutional. Yet Boumediene only invalidated the detention review provisions of the Detainee Treatment Act and Section 7 of the Military Commissions Act. In addition, some have stated that the Supreme Court ruled detainees cannot be held indefinitely. In fact, in its 2004 Hamdi v Rumsfeld decision, the Court expressly ruled enemy detainees could be held indefinitely; in Boumediene it only held that detainees must be granted a "meaningful opportunity" to challenge their detentions.
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Mark Levin ping!
Bambi’s attempt was weak
Dick Cheney = Brilliant American Patriot.
I have always adored that man.
It looked like obama was about to cry during his speech.
Obama has no moral authority to discuss the Constituion or discuss ‘American Values’. His recent actions concerning contract law and private property has voided any attempt to administer the Constitution.
Brraack’s followers didn’t see it that way.
I heard two callers on the radio yesterday that both said Brraack won the “debate”, “hands down.” Two black guys and one even said “republicans are evil and there is not even any debate about that.” One was on Hannity and the other on the show with our local guy in Orlando, Bud Hedingger. Neither of the hosts had a decent reply or rebuttal. I would have asked if they thought Colin Powell is evil.
Cheney cleaned his clock!
And he taught law at U of Chicago ??????
So far, no one but Dick Chaney has the spine and guts to do what is right to protect and defend this country. Thank God he is speaking out against Zero and his cohorts who are Socialist traitors. No one in the Republican leadership is even half the man Cheney is.
I plan to send the link of Cheney’s speech to my entire address book and ask that they forward it on as well. Somehow the truth has get out to the American people despite the cover up of Zero’s Gestapo and the propaganda of the MSM.
Obama is a coward and liar. Dick Cheney is not.
Who thought that our leader was right under our nose?
The hidden hand of Dick Cheney (He has them quaking in their Birckenstocks!)
Cheney’s daughter would make an awesome politician, don’t ya think???
Where’s his birth certificate? Perhaps he wasn’t born; he was more than likely hatched like a snake.
You, dear friend, have hit the nail right on the head. Well said!
Cheney is vastly more competent, honest and direct. I wish he were our president.