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Conservative University Founded by Jerry Falwell Bans College Democrats Club
fox news ^ | 5/22/2009 | ap

Posted on 05/22/2009 7:26:10 PM PDT by tobyhill

Liberty University has ordered its fledgling College Democrats club to shut down, saying the group stands against the conservative Christian school's moral principles.

Club president Brian Diaz said he was shocked to be notified by e-mail last week that the club was being banned by the private university in Lynchburg founded by the late Rev. Jerry Falwell. The university first recognized it in the fall.

"We were shocked, as well, that (the club) even got accepted. It was huge, and we were glad that Liberty did that," Diaz said in a telephone interview from Orlando, Fla.

The club is barred from using Liberty's name, advertising events and holding meetings on campus. Violators could be reprimanded and face expulsion for repeated offenses.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: christians; christianschools; collegedemocrats; falwell; highereducation; libertyu; libertyuniversity; noratsallowed; realchristianity
Just preventing another Notre Dame.
1 posted on 05/22/2009 7:26:10 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

It’s a private university. If they don’t receive govt. funding, I don’t have a problem with this.


2 posted on 05/22/2009 7:29:06 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Bobkk47

Heck, any school that wants to ban Democrats is okay in my book!


3 posted on 05/22/2009 7:30:21 PM PDT by sthguard (The problem isn't Islamic terrorists; it's terroristic Islam!)
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To: All

LIBERTY University...the name says it all.


4 posted on 05/22/2009 7:30:33 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: tobyhill

I don’t know why, but this makes me laugh.


5 posted on 05/22/2009 7:30:34 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Willful ignorance is a dangerous attitude.)
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To: Bobkk47
I don't either. The former “Learning Institutions” have been taken over by baby-killing, drug ingesting hippies and it's long past time some college put a stop to it.
6 posted on 05/22/2009 7:32:48 PM PDT by tobyhill (Obama's a has-been that never was.)
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To: tobyhill

Hmmmm....they could just do what Willamette University here in Salem, Oregon did.....the rule is .... If you can’t find a professor/staff member to act as advisor....you can’t have a club....and the Young Republican’s HAD a club, until their sponsor went on sabbatical or something....and NOT one other adult would step up to be the advisor. That way you cannot BLAME the school....just the fact that there is not an advisor “available.”


7 posted on 05/22/2009 7:32:54 PM PDT by goodnesswins (WE have a REPUBLIC.....IF we can KEEP IT!!!)
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To: tobyhill

I am no big fan of Falewll, Though I do respect and share many of his values and opinions.

Private universities have evry right to ban organizations from using said universities name.

If any of the students were passing out literature on campus, advertising off campus events/meetings - I think the university has to suck it up.


8 posted on 05/22/2009 7:33:52 PM PDT by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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To: Bobkk47
You probably received government funding at some point, Pell Grant, Mortgage deduction, Child Tax Credit, Stimulus Check etc., I'm not sure I want to go so far as to say taking one penny of govt. money means you are not a private entity with freedom of association.
9 posted on 05/22/2009 7:34:38 PM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Because for once the Democrats are on the receiving end of discrimination?


10 posted on 05/22/2009 7:35:59 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: RobbyS

What goes around comes around...poetic justice?


11 posted on 05/22/2009 7:39:17 PM PDT by T Lady (The MSM: Pravda West)
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To: tobyhill

Heeheeheeheehee


13 posted on 05/22/2009 7:41:06 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (The plan... 0 in power for life. At least that's what they told him.)
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To: tobyhill

Will they shut down the Muslim club next?


14 posted on 05/22/2009 7:41:29 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: tobyhill

Giddy-up!


15 posted on 05/22/2009 7:43:40 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: T Lady

I went to graduate school at UT-Austin in the early ‘60s, a so-called conservative school. To my surprise, most graduate students in the history and government departments were liberal Democrats. So was I, but I was surprised how radical they were. Anti-communism was not acceptable to those cats.


17 posted on 05/22/2009 7:45:36 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: Morgana
It's got to be as rare as the Ivory-billed Woodpecker.

Rats are Rats and even if they personally are Pro-life they'll just follow along with their Liberal Baby-Killing Leaders.

18 posted on 05/22/2009 7:48:58 PM PDT by tobyhill (Obama's a has-been that never was.)
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To: ChetNavVet
"I am no big fan of Falewll, Though I do respect and share many of his values and opinions."

Well, he's been dead for a couple years.

Anyhow, Liberty probably has the legal/constitutional right to do this, but it's pretty stupid.

19 posted on 05/22/2009 7:54:15 PM PDT by Dan Middleton
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To: RobbyS
That actually doesn't surprise me at all, given the history of the Intellectual Elite in this country, starting in the late 1920s: Those who read F. Scott Fitzgerald and Sinclair Lewis and onward throughout the last eighty plus years. It was probably not as prominent as it is today, but the seeds of rebellion had been already been sown...and now we are reaping the poisonous fruit.
20 posted on 05/22/2009 7:54:48 PM PDT by T Lady (The MSM: Pravda West)
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To: Morgana

“Believe it or not....even in my state there are pro-life, Christian, Democrats!!!”

Who voted for Obama?


21 posted on 05/22/2009 7:55:24 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Morgana
Believe it or not....even in my state there are pro-life, Christian, Democrats!!!

Then they simply do not understand what the modern Democrat party is. If they did, they would know that the Democrat platform and Christian belief are incompatible at this point, and certainly pro-life belief and the Democrat platform are in direct opposition to each other.
22 posted on 05/22/2009 8:01:14 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: tobyhill

I am surprised that Liberty even allowed the Democrats to have a club on campus last fall. Why any Christian would want to be a Democrat is beyond me though...


23 posted on 05/22/2009 8:11:09 PM PDT by Buddygirl
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To: Morgana
Believe it or not....even in my state there are pro-life, Christian, Democrats!!!

Seems to be an oxymoron in there somewhere.

24 posted on 05/22/2009 8:23:53 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Willful ignorance is a dangerous attitude.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Sorry I don't agree with this.. no diff then left wing universitys baning Republican and Conservative clubs
25 posted on 05/22/2009 8:41:04 PM PDT by tophat9000 ( We are "O" so f---ed)
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To: Morgana
"Believe it or not....even in my state there are pro-life, Christian, Democrats!!!

Isn't that like being a Pyromaniac fireman? Or a Jewish Nazi?

I have met a handful of "pro-life, Christian Democrats", myself. Every one of them was uninformed on the issues, or very prejudiced, or mentally slow.

26 posted on 05/22/2009 8:47:16 PM PDT by cookcounty (He who controls the Language controls the Debate.)
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To: tophat9000

The University does have a rational argument for banning them.


27 posted on 05/22/2009 8:47:54 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Willful ignorance is a dangerous attitude.)
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To: Buddygirl

I am surprised that Liberty even allowed the Democrats to have a club on campus last fall. Why any Christian would want to be a Democrat is beyond me though...

You can't be serious. If you are, you are simply parroting the Dems. You would like to ban free speech on a Christian campus????

You can certainly question why a Dem club would be on a Christian campus, but to ban it would be exactly what the libs would do.

28 posted on 05/22/2009 8:49:21 PM PDT by norge
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To: tobyhill

I’d wonder if this Diaz guy is even a student there?

Seems Falwell’s school has a lot more sense than Notre Dame, not to mention a lot more intestinal fortitude.


29 posted on 05/22/2009 8:59:07 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Morgana
This is so wrong.

If you don't stand up against a metastasizing cancer in our politcal culture, who will?

I urge you to rethink you posture. View the issue from the perspective of values and traditions.

Do you want their values imposed on you buy one more than half of the voting residents, foreign and domestic. Do you believe that in our politcal society, individuals should be free to pursue their version of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness without infringing on the basic rights of others? Do you believe that suppressing the right of an organization to use the structure of another, prevents that group from meeting publicly or publicly esposing their philosophy? Should a group be forced to sponsor and support views antithetical to their religious beliefs?

30 posted on 05/22/2009 9:09:24 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: tobyhill
Well, well, well................

Conservatives actually displaying that they have a spine.

Who'd have thunk it?!

31 posted on 05/22/2009 9:20:13 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: norge

Sorry, I am sick of the dems! They need a dose of their own medicine!


32 posted on 05/22/2009 9:36:37 PM PDT by Buddygirl
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To: tobyhill

She said the Republican Party and its platform is “preached on every avenue” to a captive campus audience. During last fall’s presidential campaign, she said, GOP viewpoints were expressed in the absence of any Democratic perspective.

In a statement released by the Democratic National Committee, DNC chairman and Virginia Gov. Timothy M. Kaine said, “I urge the leadership of Liberty University to reverse this attack on the liberty of its students and allow the College Democrats to have the same rights on campus as their counterparts, the College Republicans.”

WaWa, and HA HA HA HA (Gov. Kaine): Leave Liberty University Alone..you have a billion other colleges! I graduated from LU, BTW!


34 posted on 05/22/2009 11:38:19 PM PDT by JSDude1 (DHS, FBI, FEMA, etc have been bad little boys. They need to be spanked and sent to timeout!)
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To: Morgana

You in WV have a “pro-life” Democrat as Gov. do you not (or am I mistaken)..?


35 posted on 05/22/2009 11:39:39 PM PDT by JSDude1 (DHS, FBI, FEMA, etc have been bad little boys. They need to be spanked and sent to timeout!)
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To: norge

on a State school you’d be right, but on a private College, sorry..

Not saying personally I would ban them, but My AM has ~every~ right to do this.

Especially if they Supported Obama, which it seemse they did. BOBO (unless your head was under a rock or you were blind) was a known pro-gay and pro-abortion supporter.


36 posted on 05/22/2009 11:42:42 PM PDT by JSDude1 (DHS, FBI, FEMA, etc have been bad little boys. They need to be spanked and sent to timeout!)
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To: norge

on a State school you’d be right, but on a private College, sorry..

Not saying personally I would ban them, but My AM has ~every~ right to do this.

Especially if they Supported Obama, which it seemse they did. BOBO (unless your head was under a rock or you were blind) was a known pro-gay and pro-abortion supporter.


37 posted on 05/22/2009 11:42:44 PM PDT by JSDude1 (DHS, FBI, FEMA, etc have been bad little boys. They need to be spanked and sent to timeout!)
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To: tobyhill

good.


38 posted on 05/22/2009 11:46:24 PM PDT by wardaddy (Ole Miss beat Notre Dame back in 1978. ...did that start the decline)
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To: ChetNavVet

Falwell died a few years ago.


39 posted on 05/22/2009 11:47:12 PM PDT by wardaddy (Ole Miss beat Notre Dame back in 1978. ...did that start the decline)
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To: Morgana
if some Democrats

Unfortunately the discussion wasn't about some Democrats. It was about the Democrat Party. It was about the very radical (socialists) against which you railed.

40 posted on 05/23/2009 5:52:23 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: tobyhill
Rats are toxic and treasonous.

Just because many are too stupid to recognize and admit what they are up do doesn't make them any less toxic and treasonous.

To hell with Rats. They are cancer to the United States.

41 posted on 05/23/2009 8:36:53 AM PDT by caddie ("Every cat is a masterpiece." -- Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: tobyhill

Nicely done Liberty U! All Christian Notre Dame grads should consider sending their financial support to Liberty University instead.

JoMa


42 posted on 05/23/2009 9:22:54 AM PDT by joma89
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To: Morgana

While I don’t agree with Racism, It sounds like these folks are prime candidates for “Tea Party” Activities (Beautiful State you live in, BTW)!


44 posted on 05/23/2009 11:18:19 AM PDT by JSDude1 (DHS, FBI, FEMA, etc have been bad little boys. They need to be spanked and sent to timeout!)
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To: ChetNavVet

> If any of the students were passing out literature on
> campus, advertising off campus events/meetings - I think
> the university has to suck it up.

NO THEY DON’T have to “suck it up”!

Private Property is Private Property. If you don’t like that, move to Cuba.

Or Berkely.


48 posted on 05/23/2009 11:32:19 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: tobyhill

When any party proudly promotes sex perversion, the murder of the unborn, and has declared all-out war on the authority of the Bible...they need to be banned from all but the most insanely unamerican liberal cesspools.


49 posted on 05/23/2009 11:46:31 AM PDT by OriginalIntent (undo all judicial activism and its results)
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To: tobyhill

They were not banned. They were notified they would no longer be a recognized LU club. Complete statement from the office of the chancellor:

Liberty University
Office of the Chancellor

Liberty University is a distinctly Christian university with a stated mission of training Champions for Christ. It is the largest and fastest growing evangelical University in the world. Students and parents appreciate and support the values of the University.

Officially recognized student clubs and organizations that bear the name of Liberty University are expected to uphold the standards and principles of the University and act in a manner consistent with its mission. For nearly two years the University has been evaluating how best to advance its mission and to support student organizations. In order to avoid the problems encountered by other faith-based educational institutions involving student organizations, Liberty University has adopted a policy that governs such groups.

The policy states, in part: “No student club or organization shall be approved, recognized or permitted to meet on campus, advertise, distribute or post materials, or use University facilities if the statements, positions, doctrines, policies, constitutions, bylaws, platforms, activities or events of such club or organization, its parent, affiliate, chapter or similarly named group are inconsistent or in conflict with the distinctly Christian mission of the University.”

Among other things, Liberty University stands for the sanctity of human life. The loss of human life through abortion is a great tragedy and we cannot remain silent when the political policies or politicians promote the destruction of innocent human life. While students may meet on campus, debate, and discuss important and controversial issues of the day, Liberty University will not lend its name or fund organizations whose stated purpose is to promote and advance issues that are contrary to its Christian mission.

Over the last several decades, Democratic clubs have existed at Liberty University as unofficial student clubs not endorsed by the school. Last Fall, the College Democrats asked that the university officially recognize their club. They promised to support only pro-life candidates and their charter provides that the club supports the right to life. Unfortunately, the club supported candidates over the last 8 months that support abortion rights. As a result, Liberty University converted the club’s status back to that of an unrecognized club. It was not banned as so many press outlets irresponsibly reported. The club can continue to exist and meet on campus like other clubs and student groups that are not officially recognized by the university. They cannot use Liberty University’s name, will not receive the small financial subsidy that officially recognized clubs receive (about $500 per year on average) and they cannot hold public events on campus. There will be no other restrictions on their activities. Liberty University encourages free speech and open debate on its campus and free speech will not be restricted.

Liberty University is not singling out the Democratic Party in this action. If a Republican club supporting abortion sought endorsement from the University, it would be denied. The sanctity of life is one of Liberty University’s non-negotiable core values and it simply cannot lend its name or financial support to any group that actively works against Liberty’s core values.

A student club of Democrats who are pro-life and pro-family, and who are seriously intent on bringing positive change to the Democratic Party, would be refreshing. But the rhetoric must match the actions, meaning that such a club seeking official recognition would not want to endorse policies or candidates contrary to Liberty’s mission. Such a group should state in its’ name its’ distinctive mission to immediately tell the world that this club stands for the core values of Liberty University.

We hope that our students bring positive change to all political parties, not just Democrats, but also Republicans and Independents. These groups could debate many topics, but agree on Liberty’s core values. Liberty will not lend its name and financial support to any club or organization that actively seeks to undermine the mission of the University and its core values.

Liberty University® 1971 University Boulevard, Lynchburg, Virginia 24502
Liberty University is a registered trademark • ©Copyright 2009.


50 posted on 05/23/2009 9:48:38 PM PDT by Gil4
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