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Friendly Fire at the White House (Obama's liberal base takes aim over terror policies.)
Newsweek ^ | 5/21/2009 | Michael Isikoff

Posted on 05/22/2009 8:59:09 PM PDT by littlehouse36

Fending off criticism from human-rights and civil-rights groups at a private White House meeting Wednesday, a frustrated President Obama complained about the "mess" he'd been left by his predecessor.

The exchange came during an hour-and-15-minute "off the record" session in the White House cabinet room that highlighted growing tensions between the president and his liberal base. While the White House session was billed as an effort by the president to listen to his critics on the left, some of them left disappointed.

According to three sources who attended the meeting, Obama reiterated his intention to retain a version of the military-tribunal system established to try terror detainees and said his administration will likely end up adopting some form of "indefinite detention" policy to justify holding some selected suspects without trial. Still, Obama brusquely rejected suggestions by some of those present that, in doing so, he was adopting key tenets of Bush-era policies considered unacceptable by his liberal supporters. Click here to find out more!

"It doesn't help to equate me to Bush," Obama said, arguing that such comparisons overlook important differences between the two administrations' policies, according to several sources attending the meeting.

The sources, all of whom asked not to be identified because of the White House insistence that the meeting was private, also said Attorney General Eric Holder sat by silently while the president curtly dismissed the idea that his Justice Department should criminally prosecute at least one Bush administration official for torture, if only as a symbolic move to demonstrate that actions such as waterboarding will never be tolerated again.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; fail; gitmo; guantanamo; hopecrash; impeachobama; isikoff; mess; obama; themess
More waking up.
1 posted on 05/22/2009 8:59:10 PM PDT by littlehouse36
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To: littlehouse36
Nah.

This is all part of a plan.

They all knew as far back as the campaign that they couldn't close Gitmo.

Now they're covering his broken promise so he doesn't lose the extreme-left wing base, whom he will need to push his massive taxation through.

The party is falling on the sword for their Caesar.

2 posted on 05/22/2009 9:01:24 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The most dangerous fascists are those with a warm smile and soothing voice.)
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To: littlehouse36

It’s interesting. If you look at DU, the divide is growing. Almost to the 50/50 level. Of course, the reasons they have fallen out with Obama are typical leftie reasons (not prosecuting Bush and Cheney for nonexistant crimes, etc), but the fall-out is visible from what I’ve seen.


3 posted on 05/22/2009 9:03:30 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: littlehouse36
It was at that point, toward the end of the meeting, that one attendee raised the idea of criminal prosecution of at least one Bush-era official, if only as a symbolic gesture.

Truly sick and disgusting people. It doesn't matter which Bush administration official has his life ruined for expressing a legal opinion, as long as one of them do. They really lose sleep at night over the thought of KSM having water poured up his nose. It just makes them feel so unclean to think of one of their fellow Bush haters suffering like that; especially since his offense was just a little unauthorized rerouting of jet traffic.

4 posted on 05/22/2009 9:09:07 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: littlehouse36
...a frustrated President Obama complained about the "mess" he'd been left by his predecessor.

Yeah. It was such a "mess" that Obama has decided to leave most of the Bush policies in place -- while claiming to dismantle them.

Obama is Carter with a teleprompter. And a skin color that buys him some slack...

5 posted on 05/22/2009 9:10:09 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: littlehouse36
a frustrated President Obama complained about the "mess" he'd been left by his predecessor.

...you've been closing GITMO for over a year you knot head,and now the world sees he don't have a plan and he can't do it, so he has to revert to what has worked...the Bush plan, and the puppet man can't stand the heat and he shows the Presidency is above his pay grade

6 posted on 05/22/2009 9:11:49 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: littlehouse36

The Poor Baby was left a mess! Tsk Tsk! You could always resign 0.


7 posted on 05/22/2009 9:13:41 PM PDT by pankot
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To: okie01

The “mess” that Bush-Chney left included policies that achieved results that no one wants undone, except the lefties.


8 posted on 05/22/2009 9:15:23 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: Minn
They really lose sleep at night over the thought of KSM having water poured up his nose.

But they wouldn't think twice about doing it to Bush or Cheney.

To liberals, al-Qaeda isn't an enemy; they're brothers-in-arms united against the Republican threat.

9 posted on 05/22/2009 9:17:28 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: littlehouse36

The left will not be happy with Obama until he gives them Bush and Cheney’s heads on a plate. Their bloodthirst won’t stop there, either. They will want Rush, Hannity and all of talk radio and after that, who knows? With the DHS memos, firearms owners might be on that short list.


10 posted on 05/22/2009 9:19:37 PM PDT by lmr (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: littlehouse36
hopenchange meets reality.

A leader leads. A loser complains.
Obama is in way over his head.
The only thing scarier is that the next three in the line of succession are total fruitcakes.

11 posted on 05/22/2009 9:21:08 PM PDT by grandpa jones (obama must be exhausted, having to tote that giant brain of his around all the time.,.)
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To: littlehouse36
There was no "mess" until the ignorant little turd, president Zero, came on the scene.

God! help me, but if You wanted to punish us for our transgressions, You surely picked a stunning way to do it.

We will survive.......

12 posted on 05/22/2009 9:23:15 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: littlehouse36
Obama complained about the "mess" he'd been left by his predecessor.

Surely he means Pelosi and Reid who ran the Kongress for the two years prior to his coronation. /sarc

13 posted on 05/22/2009 9:34:54 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: littlehouse36
"Obama complained about the "mess" he'd been left by his predecessor."

Next thing we know Obama will say his predecessor forced him to run for office.

14 posted on 05/22/2009 9:35:13 PM PDT by Enterprise (The Porkulus brought us economic swine flu.)
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To: littlehouse36
a frustrated President Obama complained about the "mess" he'd been left by his predecessor

Whine whine whine. What a pantywaist chickensh*t we got saddled with. He's liable to have a temper tanturm and arrest Cheney.

15 posted on 05/22/2009 9:41:44 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

If he couldn’t stand the heat maybe he should have stayed out of the kitchen!


16 posted on 05/22/2009 9:55:16 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: KJC1

Lefties have to understand that they’re nothing more than political mistresses. A few passionate encounters, promises of love and a future together, and then ‘bam’! I can’t leave my family, but thanks anyway. Take care. I guess some folks are meant to be jilted forever.


17 posted on 05/22/2009 9:58:42 PM PDT by joejm65
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To: littlehouse36

Notice that the end of the article, Obama appears to make up some poll data to imply that 50% of poll respondents think highly of his security measures....but then the article quotes staff who don’t seem to know where the poll data the prez cited came from. Here’s a quote:
“Asked about the poll, White House spokesman Ben LaBolt said the White House does not conduct polls. “
Then LaBolt backs away from commenting further. Odd, the MSN normally hides fake polls and posing better than this.


18 posted on 05/22/2009 10:01:33 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: littlehouse36

“The sources, all of whom asked not to be identified because of the White House insistence that the meeting was private, also said Attorney General Eric Holder sat by silently while the president curtly dismissed the idea that his Justice Department should criminally prosecute at least one Bush administration official for torture, if only as a symbolic move to demonstrate that actions such as waterboarding will never be tolerated again.”

Well, at least we have that. Surprising though.


19 posted on 05/22/2009 10:17:24 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: littlehouse36

By the way, it’s nice to know you can be prosecuted for “symbolism” now.


20 posted on 05/22/2009 10:18:18 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: littlehouse36

The mess clinton left Bush caused 911.

Pray for America


21 posted on 05/22/2009 10:42:13 PM PDT by bray (SarDate.2012)
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To: autumnraine

“Well, at least we have that. Surprising though.”

Hmmm. Do we have that? I wonder.

I am not the only one that believes that Obama is more idealogue than pragmatist. With half the country despising him (conservative side), and a wilting left side of the equation (liberal), it will be interesting to see whether he can tack to the center quickly enough to offset the loss on the left. Remember, it is early in his administration. He knows that public support is beginning to collapse as the economy implodes, and no degree of “pie in the sky” happy talk is going to stop that. He’s way overspent, and the stimulus package isn’t working (though only six percent of those stimulus packages have made it into the economy so far). The bulk of his/their profligacy isn’t due to be squandered till before the midterm elections. By that time the collapse will well and truly be a disaster.

He’s already setting the basis for vastly increasing taxes, though this is !exactly! the wrong thing to do in a faltering economy. Truly, he cannot raise taxes enough to make a dent in the debt that’s in the process of creation. Print more money? That’s a given. When will the tsunami of inflation hit? I can’t tell you, but it’s coming as sure as the sun will rise. There’s not a solution now, even if he was a pragmatist. The only action available (as ineffectual as that is), is happy economic talk while the all of the indicators accelerate downwards. What’s left? More happy talk and a desperate need to get the focus of the public off of the conflagration that is burning through the financial underpinnings that still give marginal support to what is left of an economy.

He is mentioning the previous administration more than he ever did, as the cause of the nation’s grief. I don’t think we’re out of the woods yet re. a show trial of some sort.

Consider, as the left sours on his desperate attempt to tack right, there’ll come a time when his support trends south as well. That’s when the political showboating will begin in earnest.

A socialist will take your money.

A Marxist will arrest you.

A communist will kill you.

What “flavors” of leftism do you suppose we’ll witness over the next two years? This is the start of a great political “life lesson” for my children. They can see it coming. They’re already preparing for the economic dissection. Disasters teach.


22 posted on 05/22/2009 11:02:43 PM PDT by Habibi ("We gladly feast on those who would subdue us". Not just pretty words........)
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To: lmr

“happy with Obama until he gives them Bush and Cheney’s heads on a plate.”

Should that nightmare unfold, count on a Civil War.


23 posted on 05/23/2009 12:20:31 AM PDT by Gator113 (Weak-coward-racist-white hating-lying-traitor= Surrender Monkey in Chief-B. Hussein Obama...)
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To: littlehouse36
""It doesn't help to equate me to Bush," Obama said"

In his darkest hour Bush could not produce excrement vile enough to equate to this Kenyan pimp from the Southside of Chicago......

24 posted on 05/23/2009 4:57:48 AM PDT by Feckless (No Birth Certificate... No Peace)
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To: Habibi

“What “flavors” of leftism do you suppose we’ll witness over the next two years? This is the start of a great political “life lesson” for my children. They can see it coming. They’re already preparing for the economic dissection. Disasters teach.”

You are SO RIGHT. I am teaching my kids about fascism, communism, socialism and why all are wrong. I’m also preparing them with stories of families of the Revolutionary War. And showing them how WW2 went.


25 posted on 05/23/2009 6:00:32 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: okie01

Absolutely. The Republicans are virtually the Devil to a group who the majority doesn’t believe in God. Twisted.


26 posted on 05/23/2009 6:01:43 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: autumnraine

“I am teaching my kids about fascism, communism, socialism and why all are wrong.”

It is important to teach the dark, as well as the light. Intergenerational values are best taught at the family level, else they fall to the PC revisionism we have in our public schools. This business of a parental need to be our children’s “friend” says more about the lack of maturity in some parents, than it does about building maturity in our children.

Yes. One needs to teach evil, in all of its forms, whether moral, ethical or even economic. How else is the next generation to recognize it for what it is? We do no favor to them by insulating them from what is occurring around us. The result would leave them little better than those that have created the political/economic abomination that they’ll have to fix over their lifetime.


27 posted on 05/23/2009 9:05:01 AM PDT by Habibi ("We gladly feast on those who would subdue us". Not just pretty words........)
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To: KJC1

“It’s interesting. If you look at DU, the divide is growing. Almost to the 50/50 level.”

I have noticed that my liberal Facebook friends have moved from pro-Obama back to anti-Bush. It seems they are more comfortable there.


28 posted on 05/23/2009 10:40:09 AM PDT by littlehouse36 (First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi)
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To: grandpa jones
hopenchange meets reality. A leader leads. A loser complains. Obama is in way over his head. The only thing scarier is that the next three in the line of succession are total fruitcakes.

Well put, Grandpa Jones.

29 posted on 05/23/2009 10:55:00 AM PDT by littlehouse36 (First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi)
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