She has a point. Your pays your money and you takes your chances. Throw in your lot with materialism or Jesus, but let's stop the incessant, piteous whining. If you're happy with your beliefs, why the need to flail and rage at those who don't share your Weltanschauung?
> The evidence? Antique clauses in the constitutions of
> six count ‘em states barring atheists from office.
Sorry, but atheists must be banned from public office.
Upon what can they base their oath of office? To what external, objective, transcendent standard can they appeal in ordert to uphold the Laws of the Republic?
For the same reason, an atheist’s testimony should be inadmissible in a court room.
Actually, they're just irrelevant. Nobody hates them. Nobody loves them either.
That's what makes them so angry and vindictive.
I don’t mind atheists who keep it to themselves in the same way I don’t mind homosexuals who keep it to themselves. We a fair number of atheist FReepers who are just fine in my book.
Most so-called “atheists” are in fact very theist — they just are angry at God and His followers.
It's not just philosophically primitive it has been proven incorrect by the mathematician Kurt Goedel in his famous incompleteness theorem.
I suppose they are better than Muslims in that they won't kill you for not believing as they do... but hearing their crap over and over does get irritating after continually telling them to quit it.
Atheists hardly have a corner on this. On FR there are people who are guilty of the same, but from the other direction. They fancy themselves the "Moral Absolutes" crowd and have their own Ping list. This list is immediately pinged the second one of them engages in a thread. Cowards the whole lot of them.
I admitted to an atheist friend that I was skeptical of evolution and he said “You are here aren’t you? There’s your proof” and I thought now that is about as ignorant a statement as they mock from the Christians who say “You are here aren’t you? That’s proof God is real”.
I am not saying either statement is ignorant, but the way they devote so much FAITH in an unproven theory is just as valid to them as our faith is to us, but they see themselves superior due to having something in their hand. What they have in their hand (fossils and such) proves nothing, but by God they can hold it so it MUST be real./s
“Dawkins, writing in “The God Delusion,” accuses the deity of being a “petty, unjust, unforgiving control freak” as well as a “misogynistic, homophobic, racist ... bully.” If there is no God and you’d be way beyond stupid to think differently why does it matter whether he’s good or evil?”
Better question, HOW can He be evil if he doesn’t exist?
I’ve only met one atheist who I could tolerate being around - he was my car pool partner. Most of the time we talked about guns.
Well if she believes the religious are never boring I'd wager she's never waded through the crevo threads here at FR.
Theyre so disdainful of faith.
And yet, they believe in things they can't prove as well.
How do you know George Washington existed?
You never talked to him.
You never saw him.
How do you know the records of him aren't just a contrivance of teachers and delusional historians?
How do you know the stories of him aren't just an ages-old conspiracy to enforce allegiance to America?
And look at some of the things surrounding him that we know couldn't be true.
According to some atheist reasoning Ive heard about the Bible, doesn't this prove all of the stories false?
For instance, throwing a silver dollar across the Potomac.
Obviously a fabrication.
And the wooden teeth and the cherry tree/cannot tell a lie.
Obviously just plots by a society of GW believers to promote dental hygiene and honesty.
Everyone relies on faith. Even the atheist has faith. Just his faith fits in better with his worldview. Jesus fits in better with mine.
Ironically, most atheists I've encountered were not particularly bright and definitely not "free thinkers" even though they seemed anxious to label themselves as such. But most just reiterated the same argument but without really understanding the finer points of it nor able to examine their premises utilizing their own free thought. Most of the intelligent atheists I've encountered abandoned their atheist claims and retreated to agnosticism when pressed on their views.
“...assumes that if science can’t prove something, it doesn’t exist.”
Seems like that requires a great deal of faith.
I’ve recently come to think that atheists rely on faith as much as believers if not more. They have faith that there is no deity.
Atheist morality is whatever the majority (or the dictator) feel at the moment. There is no God given natural law, obviously, and contrary to the atheist accusation that religion kills people, I give you atheism killing far more on the historical spectrum. In the 20th century, the atheistic totalitarian states killed far more numbers than all the religious wars combined.
Nazism was a race worshiping pagan ideology that despised religion, indeed, Hitler hoped to hang the Pope as soon as he could. Over 50 million dead from their ideas.
Communism - from the Ukrainian genocide to the murders of Mao to the killing fields of Cambodia and Vietnam, communism was completely devoid of any morality and easily ascribed “good” to their own heinous actions. They killed millions upon millions, all the while stamping out any vestiges of the ‘opiate the people’. Hitchens was once a commie, or at least didn’t complain about wearing their course underwear, and he may have seen the errors of his ways but not completely. They are abundant murders and only one living in a self created moral universe could even tolerate them.
America today is now responsible for 50MM abortions. Many of these woman regret it and return to their religious faith for renewal. The culture of death resides with the removal of all aspects of religion from the village square, and those purveyors of atheism now seek to penalize people that openly profess their faith.
One should not be allowed to define their own morality - it allows one to walk proudly after committing mass murder!
Whenever I read about these atheist books like “The God Delusion” and “God is not Great”, it always makes me think of Oolong Colophid’s controversial trilogy: “Where God Went Wrong”, “Some More of God’s Mistakes”, and “Who is this God Fellow, Anyway”.
“At the American Atheists Web site, a writer complains that God “set up” Adam and Eve, knowing in advance that they would eat the forbidden fruit.”
Okay, help me out here. This writer considers him/herself an atheist, a condition for which disbelief in God would seem to be the minimum requirement. Yet they are expending time and energy writing about their understanding of God’s motives, which would seem to imply a belief in the existence of the Deity in question.
Someone needs to cry bravo sierra on them.
As the French say, oy vey.
There is a certain irony that Ayn Rands Atlas Shrugged is one of the most widely read and quoted works on FR. Rand of course was an atheist, and a very moral woman.
I must admit I find her moral logic much more compelling than anything I ever heard in church.