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Liberty University says campus Democratic Club unChristian
http://www.examiner.com ^ | May 23, 11:58 | www.examiner.com

Posted on 05/23/2009 2:04:28 PM PDT by Maelstorm

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To: Maelstorm

Jerry Lamon Falwell, Jr (born June 17, 1962) is the chancellor of Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia, appointed in May 2007 shortly after his father’s death in 2007.


21 posted on 05/23/2009 2:38:03 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: gscc

I see your point. However I can’t really get behind Liberty U on this one. From what I’ve seen of the world, I’ve come to believe the worst possible form of government is now and always has been a one party system. As a result, I can’t in good conscience support anything that seeks to infringe upon the equal access of multiple parties to individual voters. Not even it benefits my party, and promotes my beliefs because I know that if it continues it will eventually abandon those beliefs.


22 posted on 05/23/2009 2:39:55 PM PDT by Melas
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To: xjcsa

The truth? I brought the issue up with a couple of friends who happen to be lawyers during a bicycle ride yesterday. What I’ve been posting is the result of that 40 mile conversation. However, Liberty U’s backing off leads me to strongly believe that everything my friends told me was indeed 100% correct.


23 posted on 05/23/2009 2:43:48 PM PDT by Melas
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As a result, I can’t in good conscience support anything that seeks to infringe upon the equal access of multiple parties to individual voters.

I agree. But Liberty's action does no such thing.

24 posted on 05/23/2009 2:44:05 PM PDT by xjcsa (Currently shouting "I told you so" about Michael Steele on my profile page.)
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To: buccaneer81

That is better:

Here is the link:

http://www.theseminal.com/2009/05/23/being-christian-means-you-cant-be-a-democrat/


25 posted on 05/23/2009 2:44:28 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Those that have nothing to hide welcome debate.)
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To: Melas

“As a result, I can’t in good conscience support anything that seeks to infringe upon the equal access of multiple parties to individual voters.”

One more time - this is a private entity that has religious liberty, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly etc. They are not abridging the rights of any of these students by not endorsing a group that is antithetical to the schools mission.


26 posted on 05/23/2009 2:44:29 PM PDT by gscc
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To: Melas

I agree with that. I prefer employers to stay out of politics.


27 posted on 05/23/2009 2:45:24 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Those that have nothing to hide welcome debate.)
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To: Melas

Liberty probably just wanted to stem the fire. They could have fought it. Thanks for the news on what Falwell Jr. said.

http://www.theseminal.com/2009/05/23/being-christian-means-you-cant-be-a-democrat/


28 posted on 05/23/2009 2:46:48 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Those that have nothing to hide welcome debate.)
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To: Maelstorm

Fail. Jerry Falwell is the current Chancellor of Liberty University. He happens to be the son of the late Jerry Falwell. So you try again.


29 posted on 05/23/2009 2:48:57 PM PDT by Melas
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This isn’t about the Democrat Party per se of the GOP it is about the activities of the said group which violates the by laws of the University. A conservative Democrat group would indeed be acceptable where as a log cabin Republican group would not. It is not so hard to understand and I agree with you stand on a one party system. I’m not happy with either one of them in total though the Democrat party is lost to me.


30 posted on 05/23/2009 2:50:52 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Those that have nothing to hide welcome debate.)
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To: Melas

Touché :-)


31 posted on 05/23/2009 2:52:03 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Those that have nothing to hide welcome debate.)
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To: gscc

I’ll make myself clear. I want young people to come to the Republican Party, my party, because they have decided that the Republican Party best represents them in American government after exposure to both parties. That is to say that I want them to reject the Democrat Party on their own. I do not want them to come to the Republican Party because it was given a leg up in a controlled environment during a critical stage of their development.

I think this weakens the GOP on Liberty U’s campus. It makes it appear as though the GOP can’t triumph if the Democrats have equal access, and I don’t believe that for a minute.


32 posted on 05/23/2009 2:59:26 PM PDT by Melas
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The truth? I brought the issue up with a couple of friends who happen to be lawyers during a bicycle ride yesterday. What I’ve been posting is the result of that 40 mile conversation. However, Liberty U’s backing off leads me to strongly believe that everything my friends told me was indeed 100% correct.

Makes sense. I wasn't arguing, excatly, but it's awfully easy for these kinds of conversations to end up being based on preconceptions of the law that aren't always correct.

Jerry Sr. (Liberty president) is a lawyer himself, so I'd expect him to have a pretty decent grasp of things.

Full disclosure, I'm a Liberty grad myself.

33 posted on 05/23/2009 3:01:39 PM PDT by xjcsa (Currently shouting "I told you so" about Michael Steele on my profile page.)
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To: Melas

“I’ll make myself clear. I want....”

It is not about what you want. Liberty University is a private school that has a stated mission and they should be able to do whatever they please!!!! That they have backpedaled is because the federal government holds the purse string and therefor has them where it hurts.


34 posted on 05/23/2009 3:12:21 PM PDT by gscc
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To: Maelstorm

Do they have a Republican club on campus?


35 posted on 05/23/2009 3:13:27 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon drama at a time!)
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To: Melas
Liberty University is NOT a government. It's a school.

The Supreme Court once made a mistake when it conjured up a vision of school teachers being jack booted thugs ladeling out government policy to first graders.

BTW, not only is Liberty U not a government, it's a private institution.

Seems to me that limiting the evil influence of Democrats on campus would be an acceptable, even desirable activity.

36 posted on 05/23/2009 3:16:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Maelstorm

Braver than Notre Dame.


37 posted on 05/23/2009 3:36:21 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Obama's not the anti-Christ, but is making the way for him as John the Baptist did for Jesus.)
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To: gscc

We disagree, and I find it unlikely at this point that either one of us will sway the other, so perhaps it’s just time to leave it at that.


38 posted on 05/23/2009 3:46:20 PM PDT by Melas
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Liberty University is NOT a government. It's a school.

I wasn't aware that anyone, at any time during this dialogue had claimed otherwise.

The Supreme Court once made a mistake when it conjured up a vision of school teachers being jack booted thugs ladeling out government policy to first graders.

The Supreme Court may or may not have made a mistake. However, I don't recognize your authority to make such a declaration either way. Perhaps the justices should consult with you before making any further decisions?

BTW, not only is Liberty U not a government, it's a private institution.

Again, did anyone state otherwise or are you merely trying to falsely attribute the statement to me or someone else?

Seems to me that limiting the evil influence of Democrats on campus would be an acceptable, even desirable activity.

Your first honest statement. I agree with you 100% that it seems to you that it is a desirable course of action.

39 posted on 05/23/2009 3:52:43 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Tamar1973

Yes they do, hence the nature of the problem.


40 posted on 05/23/2009 3:53:12 PM PDT by Melas
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