Posted on 05/24/2009 5:59:09 AM PDT by kellynla
This provocative twist on the Bible’s opening line was plastered on the side of 25 Chicago buses this week as part of an advertising crusade by the Indiana Atheist Bus Campaign.
The ads have been cruising between downtown and the city’s North and South sides, including the No. 56 Milwaukee route, since the beginning of the week and will run through June.
"The intent of the campaign is to stimulate discussion of religion and its place in our society," said Charlie Sitzes, a spokesman for the Indiana group who with help from the American Humanist Association has collected more than $10,000 in private donations to buy the ad space in Indiana and Illinois.
The group brought its message to Chicago after a similar campaign in Indiana – to post the slogan "You can be good without God" – was rejected by transit authorities in Bloomington and stalled by officials in South Bend, who didn’t want the ads posted in time for President Barack Obama’s speech at Notre Dame.
Indiana's chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union has sued the Bloomington Public Transportation Corporation on the atheist group's behalf. Bloomington Mayor Mark Kruzan has denounced his own transit system, saying he does not condone government censorship.
"It would appear that where there is more opposition to the message that maybe that would be the place where we needed dialogue more," Sitzes said, maintaining that the slogan is a simple fact.
"All non-believers believe God is a creation of man," he said. "We used to have thousands of gods. Now we’re down to one. We’re getting closer to the true number."
Among the guidelines for determining if an advertisement can run on the CTA is a requirement that the ad be truthful and is "not directed at inciting imminent lawless action."
(Excerpt) Read more at newsblogs.chicagotribune.com ...
Semper Fi, Kelly
Just out of curiosity, would it be ok with them if we started an ad campaign that said, “In the beginning Satan created athiests”?
Would the transit system allow an ad declaring Jesus to be God? If it did and were sued would Kruzan defend it?
oldest satanic attack in the book. “ye shall be as gods”.
This isn’t about discussing God, this is about eliminating Godly discussion.
The Atheists think we don’t know what they are. We know EXACTLY what they are. Why attempt to assure us “you can be good without God”? If you’re good, then you don’t need to say it.
Same poison.
Yes, as my dad said, there are no atheists in foxholes.
And why the need for a ‘campaign’? If an atheist is what they are, just BE it. Why all of a sudden the need to ‘convert’ people?
A-THE-IST not A-THI-EST.
Disagree? When did the ACLU ever defend a gun rights case?
Have a blessed Memorial Day.
BTW... picked up the new book on Curtis LeMay. Outstanding so far....
The campaign is not intended to generate a discussion. It is intended to insult and defame the beliefs of others. It is intended to get people angry and when they react in their anger, the atheists will point to the angry reaction as proof that they were right.
...and I've never met one that worked on Christmas Day. Atheists reminds me of global warming boosters- flying their personal jets around the world to tell us we're wasteful. No hypocrisy is too great for intolerant busybodies.
Now that’s a man who knew how to win a war
Exactly- in the most tolerant country on earth. Why don't they take their message to Teheran? Lots of people believe in God there.
“The intent of the campaign is to stimulate discussion of religion and its place in our society,”
No it’s not. The intent is to give atheists smug and condescending jollies.
As if I care.... but thanks for being an internet spell check, everyone has to have a *job* that makes them feel good about themselves, glad you found one.
There's a difference between not knowing how to spell and fat-fingering the keyboard.
Take a chill pill.
These people are frightened and alone. Alone because they have no god. They want Christians as frightened and alone as they are.
There is no reason for anyone ho dosnt believe in God to try to destroy other’s faith except they want you as miserable as they are.
Actually, the truth is, I have a neuro problem that seems to be affecting my once great typing skills, but yes, you’re right. I’ve made much funnier typos in recent months!
Once again, their action expresses not profound conviction based upon reasoning, but profound insecurity.
We are called for to tell the good news (the “gospel”) of the Bible because the God we believe in instructs us to.
They have no God, and therefore no Bible (except maybe “The Origin of Species”) and therefore no directive, except their own inner compulsion not to prove that God does not exist, but to disprove to believers that he does.
Absolutely... Great read.
My Dad actually doesn’t believe. But he always tells me that he doesn’t want me NOT to believe, because he knows it’s a comfort to me. He doesn’t have an agenda, which is more than I can say for the folks who are running this campaign.
Atheists aren't afraid of being frightened and alone, they are far too arrogant to admit that even deep within their souls they don't possess.
Atheists hate the idea there is a God to whom they are ultimately accountable to rather than the little god they put om their tiny thrones in their hearts.
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Most of them are just desperately trying to convince ~themselves~.
Atheists can put out as many ads as they want. They will never win!
The odds are against them.
We need to complete the sentence for atheists: “In the beginning, man created god and god-based morality and a god-based society.”
And then we can add the obvious subsequent sentence to their agenda:
“Let us therefore throw off the shackles of god and all his influence. Let us live as though there were no god. Let us have either a totalitarian tyranny like every single atheist-based government that has ever existed, or else total anarchy.”
The Bible is right: atheists are the quintessential fools.
Atheists are just people who need an excuse for not going to church on Sunday.
Atheism is a small cult of white libs who are deluded into thinking their numbers are far larger.
Be sure to tell them they are amoral and we are sick of them claiming moral high ground after insulting us and stealing the parts of our moral code that they like.
How else would they know murder, theft, lying etc are wrong (or do they?)
How about naming some famous atheist leaders in history?
I would like to see atheist refuse paid religious holiday time.
Thank you.
And I hope you will have a good and blessed Memorial Day too.
I'm off to Mass here shortly to pray for my father, a WWI Veteran, my brother Mark, a Korean War Veteran and all those who paid the “ultimate price”.
Semper Fi,
Kelly
"C" 1/5 1st Mar. Div.
Viet Nam 1969-1970
“I would like to see atheist refuse paid religious holiday time.”
To correct myself...Refuse the pay when they don’t work the holiday as well as refuse the extra time when they work the holiday. Usually one gets time plus half when working a paid holiday.
“This isn’t about discussing God, this is about eliminating Godly discussion.”
Nothing is wrong about Godly discussion other than the fact that countless wars have been fought over God — thanks to “good” talkers.
Prayers for my dad, a WW2 Vet, 20th Bombardment, 415th Group, Northwest Field, Guam, flew B-29's out of Guam.
Passed away in 81. Lots of other friends and relatives who passed away. Veterans all.
We'll head down to our local park tomorrow for the Memorial Day Commemoration.
A truth that stands exposure to any light, plainly stated, and undeniable.
JG
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment
Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”
I’ve noticed a simple truth about those who claim to be Atheist. When “they” have their backs against a wall or face a certain disaster, the words that fall from their lips is almost always: “Oh, God.” I pointed this out to someone who claimed to be Atheist right after they spoke those words and they them self were caught off balance by finding what I had said was so true!
There’s an obvious, fundamental flaw in the rhetoric of their campaign. Man wasn’t around “In the beginning...” regardless of whose theory of origins you go with.
That’s exactly why I always say that I don’t believe in athiests.
If it was true that men created God it would follow that Atheists are not men, as they would have created nothing.
I often type athiest for atheist myself in my haste; that's why I noticed when you did it. ("Hey! I'm not the ONLY one!")
Cheers!
Corollary: Atheists are poor golfers.
2nd corollary: which only increases their frustration, because they cannot invoke the desire for irremediable spiritual ruin upon the ball OR clubs when they flub a shot...
Cheers!
This offends in so many ways...
In the beginning, Woman created God
In the beginning, Gays created God
In the beginning, Lesbians created God
In the beginning, pedophiles created God
In the beginning, democrats created God
In the beginning, socialists created God
And everyone knows that OBAMA is GOD
LOL
Certainly I would use spell check! (or I would hire your!)
And they base this on what evidence?
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