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Local Confederate Veterans' Group Canít March in Ohio Parade
The Morehead News ^ | May 22, 2009 | staff

Posted on 05/24/2009 6:22:51 AM PDT by kellynla

The Morehead chapter of the Sons of Confederate Veterans have been denied a request to march in the Ironton Lawrence County Memorial Day Parade.

The 5th Kentucky Infantry Camp #2122 received a letter from Arthur J. Pierson, parade grand marshal, rejecting the group’s request to participate in the parade, without giving any reasons why.

“Your parade request for SCV, 5th Kentucky Infantry camp #2122 Morehead, KY, has been considered and NOT APPROVED,” the letter stated.

The 5th Kentucky wanted to march with a color guard that would feature two Confederate flags – the Kentucky Confederate flag and the Confederate battle flag – and two motorcycles.

The group wanted to march to memorialize the service of Confederate veterans, many of whose descendants live in the tri-state.

It seems the flags were the reason for the camp’s exclusion.

Pierson said later that it would not be right to fly the Confederate flag when there is only one flag – the United States flag. He also said he was concerned about the group wearing the Confederate uniform and other memorabilia.

Memorial Day traces its roots back to the post-Civil War era, in 1868, when General John A. Logan, Commander of this nation’s army, declared that “a day be set aside to honor those men killed in the Civil War.” Originally it was called “Decoration Day,” and as the years passed, its scope was expanded to include all military veterans. Darrell Crawford of Morehead, Adjutant of the 5th Kentucky Infantry Camp 2122, said his group will be marching in Morehead’s Memorial Day parade where they are appreciated by local veterans and citizens of the city and county.

The group marched in last year’s parade.

"It was an honor to get to march in front of the veterans that were at the old courthouse as we fired a volley in their honor and for veterans past,” Crawford said. “When the veterans saluted, tears rolled down my face. That means something of these fine men who served our country. They knew that the Confederate flag was an American flag as well, as some of their ancestors were Confederate-Americans.”


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KEYWORDS: confederates; decorationday; dixie; dixielist; march; memorialday; scv; veterans
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Well, the manure is gonna hit the proverbial FR fan on this issue...
1 posted on 05/24/2009 6:22:51 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla
Yeah, the Klan had to go ruin stars and bars:

Oh wait,...never mind....

2 posted on 05/24/2009 6:34:31 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: kellynla
I think we conservatives have better just get used to the idea that America has decided how it wants to govern itself. It no longer is interested in a rule of law, derived from the Constitution and founded by the Declaration of Independence, grounded in individual liberty. We have now embarked on a new course to govern ourselves according to group rights.

Some groups are very much out of favor. Among these are those who commemorate the Confederacy and its cause, Protestant preachers who believe in the sanctity of marriage, and Chrysler bondholders. Groups that are very much in favor include minority groups, unions, homosexuals, and community agitators.

So these permit seekers should not take this personally. The refusal to grant them a permit was not personal, it has nothing to do with them personally, they are just members of the wrong group.


3 posted on 05/24/2009 6:34:39 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: kellynla

Yeah, the Civil War really never happened. Right....


4 posted on 05/24/2009 6:36:11 AM PDT by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
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To: kellynla

Only in 0bama’s Amerika.


5 posted on 05/24/2009 6:45:46 AM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: kellynla

I wonder how long it will take before these idiots discover we actually have Confederate graveyards here? Will they come in and dig the bones up? Let’s see...it’s only been 144 years. When will they get over the fear of the Confederacy?


6 posted on 05/24/2009 6:48:02 AM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: kellynla

Bump


7 posted on 05/24/2009 6:50:56 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: nathanbedford

You’ve read Mark Levin’s book, then ?


8 posted on 05/24/2009 6:53:53 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: kellynla

hold on to your confederate money boys!


9 posted on 05/24/2009 6:54:21 AM PDT by Bubba (TERM LIMITS + MAKE DUELING LEGAL! TRUE HISTORY... THE WORLD'S MOST IMPORTANT SUBJECT.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

no


10 posted on 05/24/2009 6:57:49 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Bubba

I wonder which flag will put next to the graves of Confederate vets. Didn’t some black mayor in Ohio take the Confederate flags off Confederate vets graves last year?


11 posted on 05/24/2009 6:59:42 AM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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To: nathanbedford

I was stuck in a hospital this past week (mom had heart stents put in) and was able to read it in two days. Pick up a copy of “Liberty and Tyranny,” if you’re in a book store. It’s at top or close to the top of the best seller list.


12 posted on 05/24/2009 7:02:28 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Bubba
“hold on to your confederate money boys!”

I think I'll just hold on to my Confederate Gold, thank you... which has a hell of a lot more value than my Union dollars. LOL

13 posted on 05/24/2009 7:04:28 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

If a group of fags had asked to march they would have been permitted.


14 posted on 05/24/2009 7:25:54 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: kellynla
Of the 224 years that slavery was legal in America the Stars and Stripes flew; only four of those years did the Stars and Bars fly
15 posted on 05/24/2009 7:26:29 AM PDT by jrd
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To: fwdude
Yeah, the Civil War really never happened. Right....

Right.

There was however a War Between the States. Also known as the War for Southern Independence or in some quarters the War of Northern Aggression.

16 posted on 05/24/2009 7:27:51 AM PDT by trek
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To: Bubba
"hold on to your confederate money boys!"

On the path we are on, the Federal Reserve Note is headed for the same fate and for the same reasons. You cannot pay for real goods and services with worthless paper ... at least not for very long. The spending must end once the taxing and borrowing power of the governing body is exceeded. The government of the United States is rapidly approaching a critical inflection point on this matter.

17 posted on 05/24/2009 7:31:37 AM PDT by trek
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To: Venturer

You’re right. Five ‘ill get you ten if some gay pride, code pink, flag-burning, anti-American, pervert-loving group wanted to march...they’d be immediately ok’d based on “diversity.” WTF is wrong with this picture?


18 posted on 05/24/2009 7:34:53 AM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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To: TommyDale

I believe it may be as simple to them, as Confederate representative in their minds to militia, opposition, the second amendment, and rebellion all rolled into one. Ie: the enemy. We must remember always, liberals cannot recognize a true enemy, they invent them.


19 posted on 05/24/2009 7:37:46 AM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: kellynla

They should have presented themselves as the local chapter of NAMBLA.


20 posted on 05/24/2009 7:38:29 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: trek
There was however a War Between the States. Also known as the War for Southern Independence or in some quarters the War of Northern Aggression.

It was only a war of independence for some southerners. Most southerners were better off remaining in the Union. The large number of Confederate deserters and southerners of both races fighting for the Union suggest that there was a strong element in Dixie who realized the Confederacy was not worth fighting for.

21 posted on 05/24/2009 7:43:32 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: TommyDale

Vote Them All Out


22 posted on 05/24/2009 7:52:34 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: kellynla
More evidence of the Nazification of an entire people, the Southerner and their descendants. Since 1865 the Nation has been trying to heel itself from that terrible war, then some morons throw salt on the would by saying you cant fly that flag or march in our parade, or remind the country in any way that their was a Confederacy.
23 posted on 05/24/2009 8:07:52 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: kellynla

Originally, only Civil War vets on both sides were honored
on Memeorial Day: This is disgusting!


24 posted on 05/24/2009 8:12:06 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
"Most southerners were better off remaining in the Union."

That must be why Reconstruction was so popular with the citizens of the Southern states.

25 posted on 05/24/2009 8:18:57 AM PDT by trek
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To: NavyCanDo
Since 1865 the Nation has been trying to heel itself from that terrible war,...

Not exactly. For decades the South was held hostage by large, northern owned businesses. We were a source of cheap labor, abundant natural resources and few legal protections.

Mississippi has an official Confederate Memorial Day Holiday. I'm sure that warps the minds of more than a few leftists. Right or wrong the Confederate dead are our kin, our flesh and bones and WE WILL HONOR THEM.

26 posted on 05/24/2009 8:19:39 AM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: kellynla

Two bits says ACORN will have repesentatives in the parade.


27 posted on 05/24/2009 8:22:28 AM PDT by kenmcg (cOMMBYAH)
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To: NavyCanDo

In my opinion, the leftists of today err, not understanding that the motivations of the secession leadership and the Confederate fighting man was very often different. Even the political nitwits of the Confederate Congress understood this as is seen by their harebrained scheme in 1865 to increase the identification of the Confederate soldier to the institution of slavery by promising each reb soldier a number of slaves at the end of the war. According to the PC thinking of today, no reb soldier needed any such inducement to be totally committed to the cause of slavery.


28 posted on 05/24/2009 8:22:57 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: kellynla

When I put the US Flag out tomorrow, my Confederate Battle Flag goes up too.

Sometimes we get funny looks for that but don’t bother us none.


29 posted on 05/24/2009 8:25:55 AM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: trek

I do not think Reconstruction was as bad as many think. It sure beat having stay at home Confederates confiscating your firearms, stealing your property and discarding habeas corpus whenever the motivations of extortion or grudge arose. The Union Army were truly liberators for delivering Dixie from the reb reign of terror.


30 posted on 05/24/2009 8:28:40 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: kellynla

Those of us Southerners, by birth, rearing or philosophy, who keep fighting the War for Southern Independence have good reason. Northern Liberals have looked down on the South since Revolutionary days. And the aftermath of the war was the ultimate punishment. And the punishment continues!

“Had I foreseen the results of subjugation, I would have preferred to die at Appomatox with my brave men, my sword in this right hand.” General Robert E. Lee


31 posted on 05/24/2009 8:32:27 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

As only a small percentage of the men and boys fighting for the South owned any slaves or had any use for them, I don’t see how offering them slaves as a bribe would work.


32 posted on 05/24/2009 8:33:14 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

“The Union Army were truly liberators for delivering Dixie from the reb reign of terror.”

I can tell you were educated by the politically correct history teachers and professors who insist the Confederate States of America was our own version of the Third Reich – a blot on American history, and Robert E Lee the equivalent of Rommel.

The Northern victory led to today’s all-powerful federal government. And that’s a good thing?


33 posted on 05/24/2009 8:51:01 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

“The Northern victory led to today’s all-powerful federal government. And that’s a good thing?”

The so called victory gave us President Obama.


34 posted on 05/24/2009 9:08:04 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: NTHockey

Southerners, by birth, rearing or philosophy !!

There are more people becoming southerners in philosophy
every day. I fly the stars and bars right below the stars and stripes every day here in northern Washington state.
To me it has very little to do with racisim, and everything to do with states rights and the way our constitution is being shredded. I think the south needs to rise again from Canada to the gulf of Mexico.


35 posted on 05/24/2009 9:32:05 AM PDT by standing man
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To: kellynla

I remember back in the 60’s when the left passionately argued for the right to desecrate the American flag as Free Speech. Now that they’re in charge, their tolerance has vanished.


36 posted on 05/24/2009 10:05:24 AM PDT by Spok
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To: Rebelbase

I think it was said that at one time Indiana had the highest klan membership in the US


37 posted on 05/24/2009 10:15:55 AM PDT by Charlespg
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To: kellynla

See they are late,,, they should have marched on Confederate Memorial Day in April


38 posted on 05/24/2009 10:30:38 AM PDT by Nat Turner (Proud two term solider in the 2nd Infantry Div 84-85; 91-92)
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To: nathanbedford
The refusal to grant them a permit was not personal, it has nothing to do with them personally, they are just members of the wrong group.

Of course, this will lead eventually to a minoritarian government's trying to take -- and keep -- power. We've already seen how badly 'Rats react to being denied a return to office, as in 2000. Eventually these client groups of theirs will decide on banana-republic tactics, including bloodshed, as preferable to losing power to "them", as the current euphemism in the Black Caucus goes.

Better violence, they will tell one another as the Era of Obama draws to a close, than to be ruled by "them." And then it will be on.

39 posted on 05/24/2009 1:00:33 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Thanks for refreshing your lies on this board. We wouldn't know what to do, if you ever stopped lying about the Civil War.

Thanks for playing.

40 posted on 05/24/2009 1:04:57 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: 4CJ; stainlessbanner; PeaRidge; TexConfederate1861; wardaddy; Arkinsaw; rustbucket
He's at it again, lying about the South and the Confederacy.
41 posted on 05/24/2009 1:08:07 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: standing man
I think the south needs to rise again from Canada to the gulf of Mexico.

I disagree. We need instead to throw New England and downstate New York out of the Union -- expel them -- let them join Canada, for having worn out their welcome. They fomented the first Civil War, they took war-profiteers' plunder from the war and from the country, enriched themselves, and threw their weight around for 140 years.

It's about time that particular beer-bust came to an end.

42 posted on 05/24/2009 1:13:19 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: kellynla
Where did this take place?

These smalltown papers so often leave out the town and state where things happened.

As for the letter writer, is he black or just liberal?

43 posted on 05/24/2009 1:18:46 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: kellynla

This makes perfect sense. Memorial Day was begun as a holiday to remember the brave Union Soldiers who fought for the US against domestic terrorists during the southern revolt. It was never a very big holiday in the south until after WWII.


44 posted on 05/24/2009 1:23:09 PM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: lentulusgracchus

“Where did this take place?”

The fist sentence of the article states,

“The Morehead chapter of the Sons of Confederate Veterans have been denied a request to march in the Ironton Lawrence County Memorial Day Parade.”


45 posted on 05/24/2009 1:24:58 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: awake-n-angry
” Memorial Day was begun as a holiday to remember the brave Union Soldiers who fought for the US against domestic terrorists during the southern revolt. It was never a very big holiday in the south until after WWII?”

“domestic ‘terrorists’ and ‘southern revolt’?”
Southerners might have an issue with your characterization.

And I suggest you brush up on your American history.

Local Observances Claim To Be First

“Local springtime tributes to the Civil War dead already had been held in various places. One of the first occurred in Columbus, Miss., April 25, 1866, when a group of women visited a cemetery to decorate the graves of Confederate soldiers who had fallen in battle at Shiloh...Approximately 25 places have been named in connection with the origin of Memorial Day, many of them in the South where most of the war dead were buried.”
Memorial Day Background
History of Memorial Day
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS
http://www1.va.gov/opa/speceven/memday/history.asp#hist

46 posted on 05/24/2009 1:36:28 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

I’m from the south. Your example is in April.

Even after Memorial Day was adopted in the south, Decoration Day (the day when Confederate Graves were cleaned and decorated) was also celebrated as a separate holiday.


47 posted on 05/24/2009 1:42:00 PM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: awake-n-angry
I don't care where you are from...your mischaracterization of the war is insulting and your assumption of the origin of Memorial Day just plain wrong.

Class Dismissed, Newbie!

Good Day!

48 posted on 05/24/2009 1:48:53 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

It seems people are so busy making Lincoln a monster that they neglect applying the same scrutiny to what Jeff and his gang were doing to Southerners. The objective truth is the Confederacy failed miserably in their goal of independence.. Who’s to blame for this obvious failure? I choose to blame the reb politicians and the defects of their cause rather than the devoted Confederate soldiers.


49 posted on 05/24/2009 2:11:03 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: nathanbedford

Yes, they aren’t on the right tier in the hierarchy of rightsholders. Nothing more than that.


50 posted on 05/24/2009 2:11:44 PM PDT by oblomov (Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods. - Mencken)
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