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The First War In Cyberspace
The American Thinker ^ | May 26, 2009 | Ed Timperlake

Posted on 05/26/2009 3:29:39 AM PDT by Scanian

Cyberwar is now a fact of life in 21st Century wars. Actual and potential enemies of America already know the dimensions of Cyberwar and have moved into full combat.

With a real world combat engagement in Georgia and Estonia, the Russians have shown skill. Make no mistake; in certain arenas the Russians are smart and capable, and as the invasion of Georgia shows, ruthless. They have world class scientists and engineers. It is well known they are excellent Cyber Warfighters who have now also apparently harnessed their criminal hackers to augment their worldwide reach. This melding of Russian conventional military might with reported state sponsored criminal cyber syndicates is ominous and powerful.

The Peoples Republic of China's attacks in United States Cyberspace are well known to even casual-mail and Google users, where viruses linked by the media to Chinese sources circle and wait for openings. If the dollar value of the troves of information reported by media to be carted off by the Chinese were toted up, the number could be many billions, if not a trillion. If George Washington and Thomas Jefferson could visit America in 2009 they would call the Chinese attacks Acts Of War.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia; Technical
KEYWORDS: china; cyberwar; cyberwarfare; georgia; hackers; russia

1 posted on 05/26/2009 3:29:39 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

“If George Washington and Thomas Jefferson could visit America in 2009 they would call the Chinese attacks Acts Of War”

But they would also recognize that we have lived in a constant state of war since WW2, and that full-scale military war has been avoided because of the cost involved.

Some could argue that the huge intelligence operations set up in WW2 are the reason for this. No country could abandon their security apparatus unless all did, and as such war continued. But that is irrelevant.

The big problem is that our people do not know of the existance of this war, while the citizens of China & Russia are constantly kept reminded of it. That is our main disadvantage.


2 posted on 05/26/2009 3:41:44 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

i fear the article is right. The next attack will be a Cyber One. The target will be the electrical grid. No juice to run computers, No computers, no modern America.
I predict the following:
A) War with China in the next few years. In this China will seize Taiwan in a skillful Trojan Horse move. We will send the fleet and lose one or two carriers. Because the Chinese can hit the west coast—no nukes will be used. Next China will crack down on any freedom movements they have, and move on Viet Nam. In this war, that will last less than two months or so—the USA will lose. We will give up Guam and make lots of concessions. Millions of Chinese workers will come to the USA. Mandarin will be spoken more than Spanish in the future. This will happen in the next four years.
B) Germany will continue to dominate Europe but not just with money. They will turn back the tide of Islamic peoples and make a treaty with Russia as the USA becomes weaker. Look to the Germans to move into Africa (to secure raw materials) Poland will be forced to give land to the new German Reich. Europe under Germany will move into South America using Argentina as a base.
C) Russia will seize Belirus and the Ukraine as well as move south into what is Iran. The fate of Israel will be decided in Moscow of all places. A Shah will be placed on the thrown of Iran and the Mullahs put in jail.
D) India will also grow into a semi-imperialist power moving into Pakistan, Nepal, Burma, and east Africa. They will become a massive trade and production center and even go into space.
E) America will lose in this world as even England turns her back on us to embrace Berlin. The Good note: We will gain Cuba and parts of Mexico. It will be a time when America tightens her belt and continues to be a place of innovation and education. In Time Canada will become part of the USA .
That is how I see it.


3 posted on 05/26/2009 8:03:28 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

We could obliterate China. If Obama did anything else, there would be a revolt.


4 posted on 05/27/2009 12:15:42 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Scanian
The Chicoms want Timmy The Wunderkind to stop printing money and devaluing their dollars.

Why don't they croak the Bureau of Engraving and Printing machines?.....or dump the dollar?

This cyberwar talk is something to keep lots of IT people in full employment.

5 posted on 05/27/2009 12:25:57 PM PDT by ninonitti
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To: Scanian

They want us to think that wars in cyberspace are all we have to worry about. Wars in cyeberspace don’t have blood, casualties, or war dead. What they are calling war is provocation. But calling cyberspace provocation a war is demeaning the sacrifices made by people who actually fought and died in real wars.


6 posted on 05/27/2009 6:47:53 PM PDT by webheart
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