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XM-25: The US Army's first smart shoulder-fired weapon
Gizmag.com ^ | 05/27/09 | David Greig

Posted on 05/27/2009 10:37:30 AM PDT by Reaganesque

May 27, 2009 The XM25 Individual Air Burst Weapon is looking likely to be the shoulder-fired weapon of choice for the US military to kill or neutralize hidden targets. Due for field test this summer, the lightweight XM-25 "smart weapon" uses High Explosive Air-Burst (HEAB) munitions that can be programmed to detonate at a precise point in the air without the need to impact, spelling trouble for elusive targets, be they behind a wall, inside a building or in a foxhole.

The XM25

Developed jointly by the German arms manufacturer Heckler & Koch and the US company Alliant Techsystems (ATK Corporation), the XM-25 is a semi-automatic, shoulder-fired weapon with a five-round magazine and weighs in at around 14 pounds (6.3kg) – about the same weight as an M-16 with a 203 grenade launcher. The weapon's XM116 integral fire system provides the weapon with its precision and is capable of controlling individually each of the 25mm rounds in real time. Based on a thermal optic, day-sight, laser range finder, compass and infrared light, the system can precisely measure the distance to the target and program each round to explode close to the mark via the wireless connection. Capable of hitting a point target at 500 meters and area targets at 700 meters with a range of munitions including HEAB, anti-personnel, two types of non-lethal munitions – blunt and agent dispersing airburst - plus armor piercing, and door breaching munitions, this is one very nasty piece of ordinance and a must have on any soldiers list.

In a nutshell, it operates with the soldier sighting the target and the advanced laser rangefinder transmitting range information to the chambered 25mm round. The soldier then essentially points and fires. After the round leaves the chamber and moves towards its target, the system precisely measures the distance traveled and detonates it at exactly the right moment to deliver maximum effectiveness. ATK says that the XM25 increases the warfighter’s probability of hit-to-kill performance by up to 500 percent over existing weapons and extends the effective range of the soldier’s individual weapon to more than 500 meters.

The LW50MG

Another high-tech weapon recently field tested by the military is the Lightweight .50 Caliber Machine Gun (LW50MG). Unlike the XM25, which doesn’t offer a weight advantage, the LW50MG weights in at 64 pounds (29kg) complete with tripod, i.e., half the weight of the M-2 .50 caliber machine gun. With 60% less recoil than the M-2, the LW50MG will also offer greater accuracy and speed than the veteran M-2.

For more information visit ATK and Heckler and Koch


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: army; banglist; smart; weapon; xm25
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Interesting. Hopefully it works as advertised. It is cool looking, though.


1 posted on 05/27/2009 10:37:30 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Reaganesque

Wow, the camo system works very well.


2 posted on 05/27/2009 10:39:45 AM PDT by griffin (Love Jesus, No Fear!)
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To: Reaganesque

3 posted on 05/27/2009 10:39:54 AM PDT by lewisglad
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To: Reaganesque

The batteries never go dead on an AK-47.


4 posted on 05/27/2009 10:39:57 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 128 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: null and void
The batteries never go dead on a gladius hispanicus, either.
5 posted on 05/27/2009 10:41:14 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Reaganesque
The real test will be how reliable it is in rough field conditions, day in and day out. If it is always jamming, breaking down, or doing an electronic "reset", it will have limited field usefulness, regardless of its clinical specs.

We shall see. I hope it is reliable and rugged and can be produced in numbers as such.

6 posted on 05/27/2009 10:41:28 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: null and void

“The batteries never go dead on an AK-47”

True that. Same with my EOTech. Cool device, but it needs a battery.


7 posted on 05/27/2009 10:41:39 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Aye. And the gladius allowed the Romans to take over the world.


8 posted on 05/27/2009 10:43:25 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 128 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: null and void
The batteries never go dead on an AK-47.

So we'll just have to settle for killing the enemy holding the AK-47, by using every high-tech device we have that will protect our soldiers from harm, including supplying them with batteries.

9 posted on 05/27/2009 10:43:39 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: null and void

More of a specialized weapon though. Not a general use field rifle.


10 posted on 05/27/2009 10:44:14 AM PDT by griffin (Love Jesus, No Fear!)
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To: Jeff Head
It should be fine. It runs on Windows®.

(Just kidding, I hope!)

11 posted on 05/27/2009 10:44:43 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 128 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Reaganesque

In order to provide for a 700 meter area hit, my guess is that some muzzle elevation would be required, and based on the look of the field of vision of the optics I’m not sure that the target would be in view.

That, or the velocity of the projectile is....completely remarkable.

It’s still interesting, however.


12 posted on 05/27/2009 10:44:52 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Reaganesque
Awesome!

Wait until the Clintonites and Zerobots sell this technology to the Chinese.

13 posted on 05/27/2009 10:45:07 AM PDT by lormand (...hoping this post isn't pulled because someone thinks its racist or sexist)
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To: Reaganesque

14 posted on 05/27/2009 10:45:11 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Hey GOP follow Dick Cheney's lead)
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To: Reaganesque

Really good weapon, it would seem.

Here’s another weapon someone linked to on another thread.

This would be a great ‘survival’ weapon....

The AA-12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ebtj1jR7c


15 posted on 05/27/2009 10:45:16 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: griffin
More of a specialized weapon though. Not a general use field rifle.

Yes, as a part of a squad it could prove invaluable.

I wish it had a larger magazine, though...

16 posted on 05/27/2009 10:46:55 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 128 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: bmwcyle

17 posted on 05/27/2009 10:47:10 AM PDT by lewisglad
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To: griffin

We still issue the M203 with infantry squads, the M-79 is making a comeback and the USMC has a rotary 40mm launcher.

I think it has definite possibility as a dedicated, general-purpose weapon.

However, when it was part of the OICW, it had a 5.56mm rifle in the equation. I wouldn’t want to be an infantry man without a rifle. I suspect they’ll also carry a carbine.


18 posted on 05/27/2009 10:47:41 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: null and void
Actually it runs on Mac.

When you boot up the gun, a stupid Apple logo lights up the place so as to give your position away and drain half of it's power.

19 posted on 05/27/2009 10:47:58 AM PDT by lormand (...hoping this post isn't pulled because someone thinks its racist or sexist)
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To: null and void

yeah...only 5 rnds. :( But I see it used more as a hybrid .50 cal/granade launcher than a field rifle?


20 posted on 05/27/2009 10:50:00 AM PDT by griffin (Love Jesus, No Fear!)
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To: lormand

*ouch*


21 posted on 05/27/2009 10:50:46 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 128 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Reaganesque

this should give local Twin City moonbats something more to protest outside the local ATK ...I love it!


22 posted on 05/27/2009 10:50:53 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: gaijin

Maybe the projectile has attitude control based on programmed range? Would be interesting to see some design specs on the projectile.


23 posted on 05/27/2009 10:51:22 AM PDT by griffin (Love Jesus, No Fear!)
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To: null and void
Perhaps we should rearm the entire United States Army Marine Corps with gladius hispanicus. They don't need that newfangled nitrocellulose burning thing, that can run out of "cartridges". US Navy can have its cutlasses, of course ... and US Air Force is useless. Why, if they run out of liquid hydrocarbons, they can't do a blasted thing!

;'}

24 posted on 05/27/2009 10:52:12 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I think we still give ‘em combat knives...


25 posted on 05/27/2009 10:53:30 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 128 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

I would too. Only 5 rounds and more operating steps to sight, range lock and fire. Definitely not for rapid fire if your trying to be effective. Bet the rounds are quite a bit more expensive too! $500 per round??


26 posted on 05/27/2009 10:53:58 AM PDT by griffin (Love Jesus, No Fear!)
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To: null and void
They tried making the gun using linux, but each soldier had to learn the ins and outs of downloading and installing required rpms and how to use "sudo" access before the trigger can be pulled.
27 posted on 05/27/2009 10:54:55 AM PDT by lormand (...hoping this post isn't pulled because someone thinks its racist or sexist)
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To: Reaganesque
Rule 1 : Must not jam
Rule 2: Easy to clean

Failing that, it's just a piece of plastic.

28 posted on 05/27/2009 10:55:24 AM PDT by llevrok (A feral conservative in my own land.)
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To: null and void
Of course.

Batteries are just another logistical issue and an engineering problem. They can be solved.

29 posted on 05/27/2009 10:55:29 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Reaganesque
Hopefully it works as advertised.

This is the grenade launcher that was part of the OICW, correct? The one that allows precise airburst detonations (like X meters inside a window opening, for example). Very cool idea, but there were some problems with it during testing of the OICW. I'll have to search for the specifics, but maybe they've worked the bugs out.

30 posted on 05/27/2009 10:55:44 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: Reaganesque

I heard of this several years ago. At that time the expected cost of the rounds was shockingly high. An attempt was made to justify this by an argument about how much more effective this weapon could be.


31 posted on 05/27/2009 10:55:53 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: UCANSEE2

I have one of these shotguns. Keeping it in ammo is the issue.


32 posted on 05/27/2009 10:56:17 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: griffin

Given that from the US Civil war up to Desert Storm the average number of rounds fired per enemy dead remained nearly constant at ~100,000, $500 for a practically guaranteed kill is a bargain.


33 posted on 05/27/2009 10:57:57 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 128 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Reaganesque

Awesome!


34 posted on 05/27/2009 10:58:07 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: lewisglad


35 posted on 05/27/2009 10:58:42 AM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I know. I’ve done some work on the problem.


36 posted on 05/27/2009 10:58:44 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 128 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Reaganesque

Not to disparage the current incarnation...

Rumor has it an early prototype (from the OICW days) was demoed to a bunch of very high-ranking officers. One was given the opportunity to fire it. He took it, entered the desired distance, and pulled the trigger. It fired, the distance was automatically measured, and it duly detonated at the indicated range: 1 meter.


37 posted on 05/27/2009 11:00:06 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: griffin

My understanding of the projectile functioning is this:

1. barrel rate of twist is known with precision and it matches the ro of the fired projectile

2. projectile has internal sensor that logs each 360 rotation

3. rotation number logged therefore indicates projectile distance traveled

4. intial range determination (and subtration or addition of desired detonation point) marks rotation number at which projectile is to detonate

5. projectile detonates when match is achieved between metrics for designated rotation mark and distance traveled.


38 posted on 05/27/2009 11:00:32 AM PDT by gaijin
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39 posted on 05/27/2009 11:00:54 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Jeff Head
Texas Cowboy (AKA Cob1) (RIP) had an H&K "space gun".

H&K Makes some neat stuff.

It was reliable and fun. Kinda heavy though.


40 posted on 05/27/2009 11:01:49 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: null and void

If you’ve had anything to do with the huge advances in battery technology the last few years, thank you.


41 posted on 05/27/2009 11:03:30 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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42 posted on 05/27/2009 11:04:22 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: Reaganesque

"What's dat you got dare meathead? A High Explosive Air Burst Ordinance dare? A HEABO? Ha, haha..."

43 posted on 05/27/2009 11:05:05 AM PDT by PeteePie (Antique firearms - still deadly after all these years)
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To: numberonepal

What’s the red button do?


44 posted on 05/27/2009 11:06:11 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Reaganesque

This appears to be a expensive solution in search of a sufficiently profitable problem.


45 posted on 05/27/2009 11:06:13 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: ArrogantBustard

Only very, very peripherally. Did some work on microfuel cells a while back.


46 posted on 05/27/2009 11:07:13 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 128 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: null and void

Where are you getting that stat of 100K rounds per kill?

Back in the Civil War, 100K rounds was one heck of a lot of ammo, and they had some hugely expensive engagements in a single day - I have to believe that the RPK in the Civil War was much lower than 100K. The engagement distances were much lower, too.

I can believe it from WWI onwards, when we had belt-fed weapons - I can believe that easily. But pre-belt? I dunno.


47 posted on 05/27/2009 11:10:39 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: Reaganesque

So adding the “replay” feature is primarily a function of software, albeit not with the Zorg capability of shifting the aim? How far off can the ZF-1 be?


48 posted on 05/27/2009 11:13:23 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Tyranny is always whimsical." Mark Steyn 3/9/2009)
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To: NVDave

It’s very possible that I misremember the start date of that statistic.


49 posted on 05/27/2009 11:13:42 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 128 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Reaganesque

That’s “ordnance.”

Still, I’ve seen this sucker on TV, very lethal. The demonstrator popped one through a window to a room at a hundred yards and it exploded about six feet inside.

With this there’s almost no such thing as “cover” anymore.


50 posted on 05/27/2009 11:14:13 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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