Posted on 05/27/2009 4:54:10 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
Reread the post...
Lemme sum this up:
1) There is no doubt that one Barry Soetoro AKA Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. is an American citizen under current US law and practice.
(2) There is no doubt that Barry Soetoro AKA Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. is clearly
(3) The Constitution makes this requirement, but without delineating exactly what a "Natural Born Citizen" is, depending upon English Common Law, very familiar to the framers, since most were British Lawyers.
(4)Neither did the Constitution establish any standard, or authority for its enforcement. If it's not in the Constitution, it is left to the states. And so far, no state has governing statutes.
(5)Through this capacious loophole walked one Barry Soetoro AKA Barack Hussein Obama, the illegitimate son of a an American mother and a father who was a subject of the British crown... right into the White House.
(6) Since the SCOTUS declined the opportunity to define this issue, and rightly so, it is unlikely that Glenn Beck or anyone else can do anything about it on the radio.
(7) OTOH, you can. Work with your state legislature to pass a STATE law requiring Presidential candidates to provide documentary evidence of eligibility before being placed (a) on the state's official ballot, and (b) before the electors of that state give any candidate the electoral votes of that state. That can be done before the election of '12. That is what the Electoral College is supposed to do: weigh a Presidential candidate's worthiness for office and cast their votes accordingly. Technically speaking, we do not have a popularly elected President.
(8)And while you're about it, agitate for repeal of the 17th Amendment and try to redress the terrible imbalance between State and federal government that has bent our democratic republic beyond the framers' recognition. All of this hoop-la-la about the place of the Omessiah's birth and his Birth Certificate is a distraction. Sleight of hand. Mis-direction. Now-you-see-it, now-you etc. etc.
Again: Obama is not a "Natural Born Citizen" because his father was not a citizen. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was many things, A drunkard, a polygamist, a bad driver, a wife beater, a Muslim, an economist of sorts, but not an American Citizen. It really doesn't matter what Jr.'s Birth Certificate says, or where he was born.
Barack, Sr. was born a subject of King George, lived as a subject of Queen Elizabeth, and died a citizen of Kenya. Barack Jr.'s mother was a Natural Born American Citizen. Young Barack Jr. was therefore a dual citizen at birth, of the UK and of the United States, and that would be true if he were born in Hawaii, Vancouver, Kenya, or Hope, Arkansas.
The reason this has to be handled at the state level is that that's where it belongs. If even one state with three electoral votes demands documentation, the cat is out of the bag and there's no more pettifoggery about "standing to bring suit." Every citizen in that state will have it.
If Obama then chooses not to comply, so be it. He will lose that state's electoral votes and cast a pall over whatever term he manages to win. If he chooses to fight up to the high court, then the SCOTUS will have the role of interpreting the "Natural Born Citizen Clause." Be very interesting!
There is no doubt that BHO, Jr. is not a "Natural Born Citizen." The trick is to legally force him to admit it!
Right now? Ain't no way. Sorry!
CertificaTION of Live Birth -- A computer-generated printout of the source birth record document(s).
The Hawaiian "CertificaTION of Live Birth" -- 13 fields of data:
Gibbs is laughing because he is following the Alinsky Rules by the book. Separate and ridicule your opposition. The media is complicit in this; they are the ones in the room laughing with him. It’s treasonous.
I do not believe BHO Sr is the father. Absolutely no resemblence.
Yes, derisive laughter and mocking is a powerful tool of ostracism. I have only kudos for the reporter who DARED to wade in those waters. But doncha think that some Obama supporters, faced with this nagging unanswered question, have just a smidgeon of doubt and secretly would LOVE—when no one’s looking—to take a peek at the real certificate? We need to keep up a steady, if subliminal, drumbeat about this issue. Introduce it any way we can into any conversation about Obama.
Whoever mentioned the Mossad is thinking what I’ve been thinking for months. Surely their top minds could outmaneuver these nitwits.
Chuck Schumer responded to me that the “courts had proven he was eligible.” Can’t get a response as to which court!
“...from his trip to Pakistan in his youth”???He was at least in his 20something...we have MEN in Iraq and Afphaganistan younger than that...this fellow was not travelling on a US passport to Pakistan..and he boarded with his fellow Pakistani roommates families while in Pakistan. I just don’t believe he was a US citizen and may have my doubts if he’s one today...can it be proven..he was listed as a citizen of Indonesia by his stepfather.
I agree with all you said.
Question is who will force an answer to the multiple questions that MUST be answered?
The future of the nation depends on exposing this.
This is Free Republic. You know the drill. The burden is on you to document that statement -- with links.
Burgeoning = Growing. Anyone else find it odd that Gibbs would Freudian slip that gem out?
And no reporter will ever ask Clinton if he raped Juanita Broderick.
Pathetic.
Les, the obvious follow-up question: why has BO/DNC spent hundreds of thousands of dollars fighting the disclosure suits?
Gibbs is a clown.
Incompetence is cute until it bites them in the butt (Pelosi).
Gibbs will screw up BIGTIME. Stay tuned.
It's in that box on the table in the residence at the White House where they found the Rose Law Firm's billing records.
The perfect response to any gov-critter who sources factcheck is
“so I am to assume Factcheck.org is now the defacto background check mechanism for the federal government and I no longer have to provide any identification to the government as long as I scan a document to them?”
Scumbags, all of em
And I appreciate your passion, but his mother was a US citizen, he probably was born in Hawaii, but if he wasn't born there, he is still a US citizen, even if you consider the whole "Hawaii was a territory" thing and the "he was born in Kenya " thing. It's a thin fence post to hang your hat on. Considering how he has inserted himself, do you really think that he could be ousted for the "birth certificate thing" in real politicks?
Yes, I do. If there is anyone willing to follow the law.
I hold out hope for the goodness in a sufficient number to come through and protect the defeatists among us.
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