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Abu Ghraib abuse photos 'show rape'
Telegraph UK ^ | 28 May 2009 | Duncan Gardham and Paul Cruickshank

Posted on 05/28/2009 8:29:52 AM PDT by South Hawthorne

At least one picture shows an American soldier apparently raping a female prisoner while another is said to show a male translator raping a male detainee.

Further photographs are said to depict sexual assaults on prisoners with objects including a truncheon, wire and a phosphorescent tube.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abughraib; abusephotos; agitprop; enemedia; fakephotos; fauxtography; iraq; mediawar; mythmaking; photos; propaganda; proterrorist; rape; stalinisttactics; worldcantwait; yellowjournalism; zogbyism
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I'm not quite sure what to make of this.

Seems like if this was legit, NYT and WP would be all over it. So far, it appears only USA Today mentions it at all.

Mods, sorry if this doesn't belong in breaking news.

1 posted on 05/28/2009 8:29:52 AM PDT by South Hawthorne
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To: Owl_Eagle

And of course this never goes on in any other prison in the world and are most likely isolated incidents.


2 posted on 05/28/2009 8:31:01 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Owl_Eagle

Can’t wait for Mooslimbs to start killing eachother over this before it’s revealed as a fake.

Thanks, Newsweak.


3 posted on 05/28/2009 8:31:11 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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Just as long as we didn’t put panties on their heads!


4 posted on 05/28/2009 8:31:46 AM PDT by 50sDad (The Left cannot understand life is not in a test tube. Raise taxes, & jobs go away.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Some of the earliest photos depicted rape. However those photos were staged for a rape porn site.


5 posted on 05/28/2009 8:32:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Rape happens ... everywhere. Why is Abu Ghraib so special?


6 posted on 05/28/2009 8:32:43 AM PDT by library user
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To: Owl_Eagle

Looks like Gen. Taguba wants his name back in the news again.


7 posted on 05/28/2009 8:32:48 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Owl_Eagle
At least one picture shows... while another is said to show a male translator raping a male detainee.

"Don't ask, don't tell" has consequences.

8 posted on 05/28/2009 8:32:52 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Justice is blind. Sonia Sotomayor is not even qualified to sit on an IMPARTIAL jury.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Sounds like Al Quida sent them some photo shopped pix. If true, get some cells ready at Ft Leavenworth.


9 posted on 05/28/2009 8:33:42 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: Owl_Eagle

Just a way to force the release of photos in order to prove they are all lies.


10 posted on 05/28/2009 8:34:28 AM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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“Another apparently shows a female prisoner having her clothing forcibly removed to expose her breasts.”

ANYONE being forcibly disrobed (for any of a number of reasons) would eventually be at least partially naked. Was it clear that the purpose WAS to “expose her breasts”?

Sensationalism at its worst.

“You give me the photos, I’ll give you the war.”

Yellow journalism tarnishes the trade.


11 posted on 05/28/2009 8:35:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Justice is blind. Sonia Sotomayor is not even qualified to sit on an IMPARTIAL jury.)
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To: cripplecreek

It looks like some of the picture are ones that were already distributed and are legit, other are questionable....pink sheets and the guy hanging upside down I thought were a hoax. Why do they keep printing it?


12 posted on 05/28/2009 8:35:20 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: Owl_Eagle
I suspect that the military took care of the abuses with the courts-martials held...if it was rape, however, and it went unreported then Army Reserve Brig. Gen. Col. Janis Karpinski needs to be held accoutable again.
13 posted on 05/28/2009 8:35:40 AM PDT by meandog (If you don't like pitbulls, don't get one!)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Has anyone been charged with these alleged crimes? If we have photos and eye witnesses, why not?


14 posted on 05/28/2009 8:37:01 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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I don’t buy it. If it happened, I seriously doubt it would have been photographed. This ain’t putting underwear on mustafa’s head. Rape gets soldiers sent to Ft. Leavenworth, so I doubt they would create evidence for a JAG officer to send them there.


15 posted on 05/28/2009 8:37:22 AM PDT by henkster (The GOP is housebroken window-dressing displayed to portray the fiction of a Republic.)
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This would explain why a 'soldier' in Darfur would stick his bayonet through a four year old girl then hold her body aloft as her blood rained down on him. Did I mention the girl's father was forced to watch before being killed himself?

That is what I read in the book "The Translator: A Tribesman's Memoir of Darfur." That people were being tortured 'after' details of 'abuses' Abu Ghraib and Gitmo were released.

16 posted on 05/28/2009 8:37:29 AM PDT by synbad600
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To: Owl_Eagle

Who would take photos of a rape?


17 posted on 05/28/2009 8:37:38 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: Owl_Eagle

This Gen. Taguba guy is very suspect imho. Has been for a very long time.


18 posted on 05/28/2009 8:37:47 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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Gen Taguba is suspect and a partisan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Taguba


19 posted on 05/28/2009 8:38:59 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Among the graphic statements, which were later released under US freedom of information laws, is that of Kasim Mehaddi Hilas in which he says: “I saw [name of a translator] ******* a kid, his age would be about 15 to 18 years. The kid was hurting very bad and they covered all the doors with sheets. Then when I heard screaming I climbed the door because on top it wasn’t covered and I saw [name] who was wearing the military uniform, putting his **** in the little kid’s ***…. and the female soldier was taking pictures.”

Kasim Mehaddi Hilas was a detainee at Abu Ghraib, not a jailer (detainee No. 151108).

This is not to say that he IS lying, but the Al Qaida handbook instructed members to make false complaints.

The question isn't "what was alleged". These cases date back to 2004. What came out in the prosecution of the charges?

20 posted on 05/28/2009 8:40:40 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Justice is blind. Sonia Sotomayor is not even qualified to sit on an IMPARTIAL jury.)
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