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Is Obama closing GOP-leaning car dealers ?....(YES !!!)
Washington Examiner ^ | 5/28/09 | Mark Tapscott

Posted on 05/29/2009 9:21:13 AM PDT by IrishMike

There appears to be a side to the Chrysler bankruptcy that has the look of an ugly partisanship not seen in this town since Tricky Dick Nixon was in the White House composing his enemies list and checking it twice every night while watching the evening TV newscast.

Bloggers on the Right side of the Blogosphere are up in arms over data suggesting that President Obama’s White House auto industry potentates are targeting for closure Chrysler dealers with records of contributing either to Republicans like John McCain or to other Democrats in the 2008 presidential primary.

Posts at RedState, Reliapundit, American Thinker, Gateway Pundit, Joey Smith and Doug Ross pointed intitially at the remarkable number of closed Chrysler dealerships whose owners happen to have been contributors to Obama opponents, mainly Republicans.

But those observations were all couched with important qualifiers, particularly that all conclusions were necessarily preliminary, pending completion of a comprehensive analysis of the political contributions by all closed Chrysler dealership owners, and a comparison of those results with contributions by dealers who are not being closed.

That said, when multiple dealers who have been closed are found to have contributed millions to Republicans and mere hundreds to Obama, the serious number-crunching cannot be completed too soon.

Then there is the Reuters report quoting a lawyer representing dealers being closed who came away from a deposition of a senior Chrysler executive with the distinct impression that the company is simply following orders coming from the White House.

"It became clear to us that Chrysler does not see the wisdom of terminating 25 percent of its dealers. It really wasn't Chrysler's decision. They are under enormous pressure from the President's automotive task force," said attorney Leonard Bellavia.

Bellavia zeroed in on the fundamental problem with Obama’s takeover of two of Detroit Big Three – something is terribly wrong when the government tells corporations who to hire and fire, what products to sell and who will be their dealers.

"What is the next task force? Shoe stores? Pizzerias?" Bellavia said. "The problem we have is the free enterprise system is not run by the government, it's run by business entrepreneurs. The dealers themselves will decide if it's not productive to go forward."


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KEYWORDS: automakers; bho44; democrats; economy; elections; obama; second100days; talkradio
From another article by Mark Tapscott

....White House car czar Steven Rattner is married to Maureen White, the former national finance chairman of the Democratic National Committee. And let's not forget that before Rattner became a Wall Street mover and shaker, he was a New York Times reporter.

Second, since neither Chrysler, nor the White House have made public the criteria used to select dealers for elimination - and because a significant number of those being closed were profitable - the only way to resolve the inevitable controversy about political considerations in political decisions is to make the criteria public and allow independent outside observers to assess how those criteria were applied....

1 posted on 05/29/2009 9:21:13 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

Opeachment!!


2 posted on 05/29/2009 9:24:18 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now, NOW)
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To: IrishMike

What Obama is doing is illegal period and these panty waist coporations are right in there with him.


3 posted on 05/29/2009 9:26:11 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: IrishMike

“make the criteria public and allow independent outside observers to assess how those criteria were applied....”

The kenyan goat herder won’t even release his birth certificate, or his college transcripts so he ain’t going to release the criteria for closing the dealerships.

Open and transparent my a$$!


4 posted on 05/29/2009 9:26:18 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (If a muslim terrorist contracts swine flu, does he still get his 72 virgins?)
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To: IrishMike

Change.


5 posted on 05/29/2009 9:26:30 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: freekitty

Quote from an attorney who Deposed Chrysler’s president last week: “It became clear to us that Chrysler does not see the wisdom of terminating 25 percent of its dealers... It really wasn’t Chrysler’s decision. They are under enormous pressure from the President’s automotive task force.”


6 posted on 05/29/2009 9:28:09 AM PDT by IrishMike (Liberalism is a psychological disorder and a dangerous mental illness.)
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To: GeronL

You know what, sometimes it is the small things that turn into the big things. The big 0 needs to be pressed on this.


7 posted on 05/29/2009 9:28:31 AM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: IrishMike

Sounds silly. Why just Chrysler (Jeep/?) and not Ford and GM too?


8 posted on 05/29/2009 9:28:43 AM PDT by This_far
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To: IrishMike
Posts at RedState, Reliapundit, American Thinker, Gateway Pundit, Joey Smith and Doug Ross....

I've been reading these blogs for a week now.

And now - it's making national news.

I can't wait till these conservative dealers file class actions lawsuits against One Big Ass Mistake, America (OBAMA).

9 posted on 05/29/2009 9:29:29 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: IrishMike

My wife is certain that they eventually will use political affiliation to deny health care to republicans. She is a cancer survivor and is panic stricken over this.

Sadly I only half doubted it and now this. I really think teh health care “reform” could be a hooror story for many and it must be prevented.


10 posted on 05/29/2009 9:31:37 AM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: This_far

Chrysler is smaller than Ford or GM.

Just a better place to start.


11 posted on 05/29/2009 9:31:59 AM PDT by IrishMike (Liberalism is a psychological disorder and a dangerous mental illness.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I can't wait till these conservative dealers file class actions lawsuits against One Big Ass Mistake, America (OBAMA).

They need to make it a RICO action.

12 posted on 05/29/2009 9:32:29 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: IrishMike

” White House car czar Steven Rattner is married to Maureen White, the former national finance chairman of the Democratic National Committee.”

Wonder if Mrs Rattner was driving a Chrysler when she had her DUI last October ?
The DUI that was mysteriously ( sarc ) ignored by the New York media.

Michael Wolff, the liberal writer for Vanity Fair, discusses the cover up here.
http://www.newser.com/off-the-grid/post/46/would-be-car-czar-silences-press-over-dwi-wife.html


13 posted on 05/29/2009 9:33:26 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Responsibility2nd

Using the list of all 789 dealerships to be closed, WND found that owners contributed $450,000 to GOP presidential candidates; $7,970 to Sen. Hillary Clinton; $2,200 to John Edwards and $450 to Barack Obama. For the “progressives” out there, that’s a 1000-to-1 ratio of GOP-to-Obama donations for closed dealerships.

Item 2: Dealership conglomerate RLJ is owned by Democrat bigwigs Mack McLarty and Robert Johnson. RLJ magically happened to keep all six (6) of their dealerships while its competitors were shuttered. McLarty is a former Clinton chief-of-staff and Robert Johnson (founder of BET) is a major Democrat fundraiser. These politically connected, powerful Democrat supporters were completely insulated from the closings in every market in which they compete.

Item 3: Democratic donor Sidney Deboer is Chairman of Lithia Motors. He donated over $14,000 to Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) and Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY). Lithia Motors lost only two of its 29 dealerships while gaining as many as five additional ones in the resulting carnage. Deboer was also insulated from Chrysler’s closings.

Item 4: Steven B. Fader contributed the individual maximum to Hillary Clinton for her 2008 campaign: $4,600. Fader is listed as owning four dealerships. Two of those dealerships are in Virginia Beach, VA: Hall Chrysler Jeep and Hall Dodge.

In the Virginia Beach area, Fader’s competitor Grafton Dodge (in Grafton, VA) was shuttered. Grafton is owned by L. A. Julien, Jr., who does not appear to have contributed to either party. Another Fader competitor, Tysinger Motor Company was also closed. Tysinger is owned by Mark Tysinger, who also does not appear to have contributed to either party. Fader’s two dealerships in the same city remain open, while nearby competitors were shuttered.

Another Fader dealership that remains open is Heritage Chrysler in Baltimore, MD. Nearby dealers that were closed include Antwerpen Dodge of Randallstown, MD owned by Jacob Antwerpen (no contributions founds); SKS Auto-Park of Baltimore; Bel-Air Dodge of Baltimore; and Schaefer & Strohminger Dodge Towson of Baltimore. The latter three are owned by Louis M. Schaefer, who has no contributions of any kind listed. Put simply, Fader’s dealership remained whole while four area competitors were wiped out.

The final Fader dealership is Motorworld Chrysler, in Wilkes Barre, PA. It remains open while nearby Pompey Dodge of Kingston, PA and Ertley Chrysler Jeep Dodge of Moosic, PA were both closed. Charles W. Pompey and Ronald D. Ertley are the owners, respectively, and neither contributed to any candidates in 2006 or 2008. Much of Fader’s competition in this area was also wiped out.


14 posted on 05/29/2009 9:35:23 AM PDT by IrishMike (Liberalism is a psychological disorder and a dangerous mental illness.)
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To: IrishMike

George Orwell was correct it is now 1984


15 posted on 05/29/2009 9:35:52 AM PDT by Surfer Bert (Remember when seconds count police are only minutes away)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

Wonder if Mrs Rattner was driving a Chrysler when she had her DUI last October ?
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: Steve Rattner, the man appointed by President Obama to redeem the American auto industry. But it’s not all that complicated to determine at least one of the cars in Rattner’s fleet. The couple’s 2006 black Mercedes-Benz 350 (New York license plate #CSL1498!) was entered into the public record when his wife, Maureen White, was arrested for drunk driving last October.


16 posted on 05/29/2009 9:38:37 AM PDT by IrishMike (Liberalism is a psychological disorder and a dangerous mental illness.)
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To: This_far

Ford did not take money From the Government, GM is not far enough into the bankruptcy process to begin cancelling franchises, they will be in a few weeks.


17 posted on 05/29/2009 9:38:57 AM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
"And now - it's making national news."

If only. I like the Examiner and it's affiliated group of newspapers. They do yeoman's work. But, I wouldn't classify them as a "national" newspaper.

The sad fact of the matter is unless the WaPo or the NYTs (or perhaps a handful of weeklies) get on this story, it's just going to slowly fade away. Of course, that will never happen.

None of the national newspapers or broadcast networks are going to touch this - at all. Even if FNC ran with this story every day for a month, it still wouldn't make it into the American zeitgeist.

Dieing or not, the traditional media still has a tremendous amount of power, especially if they want to bury a story. They're going to be burying a lot of stories the next three years.

18 posted on 05/29/2009 9:39:53 AM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: IrishMike

“Chrysler is smaller than Ford or GM.

Just a better place to start.”

As Kerry said, ‘would that it were.’

Being smaller would only narrow the focus of impropriety (as I’m sure you know)


19 posted on 05/29/2009 9:40:35 AM PDT by This_far
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To: IrishMike
"something is terribly wrong when the government tells corporations who to hire and fire, what products to sell and who will be their dealers."

Bill Ayers: Praire Fire:

any typos are mine.

"We need a revolutionary communist party in order to lead 
the struggle, give coherence and direction to the fight, 
seize power and build a new society."

"Our intention is to disrupt the empire, to incapacitate it,
to put pressure on the cracks, to make it hard to carry out 
its bloody functioning against the people of the world, to 
join the world struggle, to attack from the inside."

"Our job is to tap the discontent seething in many sectors 
of the population, to find allies everywhere people are 
hungry, to mobilize poor and working people against 
imperialism."

"Our final goal is the destruction of imperialism, the 
seizure of power, and the creation of socialism.  Our 
strategy for this stage of the struggle is to organize the 
oppressed people of the imperial nation itself to join the 
colonies in the attack on imperialism.  This process of 
attacking and weakening imperialism invloves the defeat of 
all kinds of national chauvinism and arogance; this is a 
precondition to our fight for socialism."


http://www.zombietime.com/prairie_fire/

20 posted on 05/29/2009 9:41:09 AM PDT by avacado
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To: This_far
"Sounds silly. Why just Chrysler (Jeep/?) and not Ford and GM too?

I'm not sure you understand. It's just Chrysler because so far, only Chrysler has filed a pre-packaged bankruptcy that's being guided by the Obama administration.

Ford is still completely solvent, for now.

And, GM won't be announcing any official closing until after their bankruptcy filing which could come as early as next Monday.

There's nothing silly about fascism and the targeting of your political enemies for financial ruin.

21 posted on 05/29/2009 9:44:23 AM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: IrishMike

Big difference.

As I recall Nixon was looking for the “bad” guys.
0 is looking for the “good” guys.


22 posted on 05/29/2009 9:46:18 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (The plan... 0 in power for life. At least that's what they told him.)
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To: avacado
I forgot this gem

Bill Ayers: Praire Fire

"Revolution is a fight by the people for power. It is
changing of power in which existing social and economic 
relationships are turned upside down.  It is a fight for 
who runs things, in particular, for control by the people 
of what we communists call the means of production"

23 posted on 05/29/2009 9:47:12 AM PDT by avacado
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To: c-b 1

“Ford did not take money From the Government, GM is not far enough into the bankruptcy process to begin cancelling franchises, they will be in a few weeks.”

Yes, I understand about the money and was not commenting on that among any of the companies involved (except that in order for any discrepancies to go unnoticed, the smaller the company the better).

I’ll add that if any company goes down, there WILL be union people going over the books (all of them)

As to GM franchise demise, most have 1 year upon recent notification. A better response than CH


24 posted on 05/29/2009 9:47:16 AM PDT by This_far
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To: This_far
As my wife said to me recently.....(from something she obviously received as an e-mail)
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The first testicular guard, “Cup”, was used in Hockey in 1874 and the first helmet was used in Hockey was 1974.

It took 100 years for men to realize that the brain is also important.

Hopefully it will not be too long into 0’s second 100 days for the majority of people to wake up and smell
....the crap !

25 posted on 05/29/2009 9:47:48 AM PDT by IrishMike (Liberalism is a psychological disorder and a dangerous mental illness.)
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To: IrishMike

26 posted on 05/29/2009 9:47:59 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Big_Monkey

“I’m not sure you understand.”

I do and thank you for the reply. Tough to keep up with some replies without reading all of the thread.

FWIW: I have GM in my past (work/stock/etc). Will take my lumps like the rest though.


27 posted on 05/29/2009 9:51:35 AM PDT by This_far
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To: IrishMike

The MSM has created such a comfort zone for the ‘Bama that corruption that would have cost past presidents their job is just routinely and openly practiced. The public has become so media-conditioned, that if Katie and Charlie don’t tell them it’s wrong, they’re clueless. America has become too complacent and gullible to hang on to the republic or their freedom.


28 posted on 05/29/2009 9:52:28 AM PDT by Spok
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To: IrishMike
Using the list of all 789 dealerships to be closed, WND found that owners contributed $450,000 to GOP presidential candidates; $7,970 to Sen. Hillary Clinton; $2,200 to John Edwards and $450 to Barack Obama. For the “progressives” out there, that’s a 1000-to-1 ratio of GOP-to-Obama donations for closed dealerships.

Interesting, but it doesn't mean much unless data for all dealers is collected. It wouldn't surprise me that a business would give more to anyone running against a commie.

29 posted on 05/29/2009 9:52:58 AM PDT by TankerKC (01/20/09 = 09/10/01)
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To: TankerKC

Good point. We need a list of open and cloosing dealers, to see if there is a `pattern`...


30 posted on 05/29/2009 9:55:47 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: Spok
"The public has become so media-conditioned, that if Katie and Charlie don’t tell them it’s wrong, they’re clueless.

Absolutley, 100% correct. It's what keeps me up at night. This is their guy and they simply aren't going to let him "fail", no matter how frequently or severely he does.

31 posted on 05/29/2009 9:55:59 AM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: smith5460

Ping to the yeoman!!!


32 posted on 05/29/2009 9:58:22 AM PDT by houeto (Defang the FEDGOV. Repeal the 17th!)
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To: This_far

Writing in a May 3 article, New York Times chief White House correspondent David Sanger said, “Fresh from pushing Chrysler into bankruptcy, President Obama and his economic team are hoping the hard line they took last week gives them leverage to force huge changes in General Motors, a far larger and more complex company.”


33 posted on 05/29/2009 10:00:04 AM PDT by IrishMike (Liberalism is a psychological disorder and a dangerous mental illness.)
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To: IrishMike

“The first testicular guard, “Cup”, was used in Hockey in 1874 and the first helmet was used in Hockey was 1974.”

How the heck did this come from a car thread... oops sorry, of course.

I can only add that I had a boss who regaled (often) that he played football without a helmet.

His judgment calls seemed to support same.


34 posted on 05/29/2009 10:01:12 AM PDT by This_far
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To: IrishMike

Findings from 538.com breaks down some of the data on all car dealers (Not just Chrysler).
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/05/news-flash-car-dealers-are-republicans.html

Overall, 88 percent of the contributions from car dealers went to Republican candidates and just 12 percent to Democratic candidates. By comparison, the list of dealers on Doug Ross’s list gave 92 percent of their money to Republicans.

Wrt, the RLJ dealerships. Given some of the money behind this group (Bob Johnson is a billionaire) these dealerships might be better capitalized and better performing than some of their single dealer operating competitors. There may be corruption or it may be performance based. Further investigation will tell.
Also, Bob Johnson was an outspoken critic of Obama during the Democratic primaries and I would guess that McClarty would have been a Clinton supporter as well.


35 posted on 05/29/2009 10:02:15 AM PDT by NC28203
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To: Diogenesis

ping.

A sad ping.


36 posted on 05/29/2009 10:05:48 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: IrishMike

“Writing in a May 3 article, New York Times chief White House correspondent David Sanger said, “Fresh from pushing Chrysler into bankruptcy, President Obama and his economic team are hoping the hard line they took last week gives them leverage to force huge changes in General Motors, a far larger and more complex company.””

I .... what is this in response to ?

I know that the NIC wants change, but I still maintain that there are too many involved for this to be a fiat by simple takeover without challenge.

Even yesterday, the GM bondholders seem to have upped their share in the surreptitious bailout, from 1% to 10%.

That is Bondholders, not stock holders (I’m both and future pensioner — no medical)


37 posted on 05/29/2009 10:08:28 AM PDT by This_far
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To: This_far

They have similar plans for GM, and don’t have the same leverage to use against Ford.


38 posted on 05/29/2009 10:23:22 AM PDT by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: Dan(9698)
“They need to make it a RICO action.”

Perfect suit for this Gangster Administration.

39 posted on 05/29/2009 10:24:26 AM PDT by 444Flyer ("...But Mordecai would not kneel down or pay him honor."-Esther 3:2b)
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To: IrishMike
First, they came for the car dealers...
40 posted on 05/29/2009 10:25:22 AM PDT by 444Flyer ("...But Mordecai would not kneel down or pay him honor."-Esther 3:2b)
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To: 3niner

“They have similar plans for GM, and don’t have the same leverage to use against Ford.”

Ok, um, what plan? Take over the company and do what with it?

Sorry if I’m getting a bit direct here, but what can “they” do with over 10,000 defunct car dealerships and then approximately 20 idled/shuttered manufacturing facilities (and the factor by 10 ancillary direct and 20 indirect businesses?)

C’mon, if anyone was that bright or intelligent, they wouldn’t have to be illegal or cheat.


41 posted on 05/29/2009 10:36:34 AM PDT by This_far
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To: Peanut Gallery

ping


42 posted on 05/29/2009 10:36:44 AM PDT by Professional Engineer ("A republic if you can keep it" responded Franklin. Sorry Dr. Franklin)
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To: IrishMike

I hope they fight back. What Obama is doing is illegal.


43 posted on 05/29/2009 10:51:45 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

She had her license sus[pended for 90 days!!!! I hear it’s 1 yr in Virginia.


44 posted on 05/29/2009 11:10:33 AM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid! My new enviromentalist inspired tagline: cut, kill, dig and drill)
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To: IrishMike

Back to the top


45 posted on 05/29/2009 12:26:20 PM PDT by txnuke (Obama votes "PRES__ENT" because he has no ID.)
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To: TankerKC
Interesting, but it doesn't mean much unless data for all dealers is collected.

Democrats have told us over and over that "it's the allegation that's important". Play their game. Make the allegation, make it big, and let them use energy disproving it.

46 posted on 05/29/2009 12:58:38 PM PDT by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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To: IrishMike

Want not just donate cars they can’t sell to charities like Cars4Charities www.cars4charities.org


47 posted on 06/07/2009 2:29:44 PM PDT by karenc
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