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America's Freest States (and Least Free States)
Yahoo ^ | 05/29/2009 | Yahoo

Posted on 05/29/2009 5:01:52 PM PDT by Dallas59

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"On the other end of the spectrum, it was traditionally Democratic states that earned the title of "least free," according to the study. Rhode Island, New Jersey, and New York-all of whom voted Democratic in the past three presidential elections-came in at 48th, 49th and 50th, respectively.

However, it is important to note that the study's findings do not all fall along these predictable party lines. Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, and Louisiana, for example, all fall in the bottom eleven among states with the most Personal Freedom. Arkansas, Texas, and Missouri, meanwhile finish fourth, fifth, and sixth, respectively in that category. According to the authors of the study, while conservative states do perform better than liberal ones, it is moderately conservative states which are in fact the freest."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: New Jersey; US: New York; US: Rhode Island
KEYWORDS: bluestates; free; lping; redstates; states; topten

1 posted on 05/29/2009 5:01:52 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59
" However, liberties such as the right to smoke marijuana and same sex partners are factored in as well, which would lend weight to states with a more liberal sociopolitical bent."
2 posted on 05/29/2009 5:06:14 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Dallas59
People's Republic of Maryland - # 5 least free.



Lamh Foistenach Abu!
3 posted on 05/29/2009 5:06:42 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: ansel12

Homeland Security needs to be informed....


4 posted on 05/29/2009 5:09:54 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: Dallas59

Connecticut should be 50th considering the biggest employer in the state is the state of Connecticut.


5 posted on 05/29/2009 5:09:58 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Dallas59

Studies like this are worthless without studying the methodology. Does being pro-abortion = freedom? Does more pot smoking = freedom? Does more gay norming = freedom?

Rather than ranking states, I’d rather see a percentage of how “free” each state is and then compare those percentages after four years of Obama/Socialist rule.


6 posted on 05/29/2009 5:10:54 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: Dallas59; bamahead; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; ExTexasRedhead; justiceseeker93; neverdem; ...

Top 5 Free-est.

5.) Texas
4.) Idaho
3.) South Dakota
2.) Colorado
1.) New Hampshire

The 5 Least Free

5.) Maryland
4.) California
3.) Rhode Island
2.) New Jersey
1.) New York


7 posted on 05/29/2009 5:12:24 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The McCain/Palin ticket was like a Kangaroo, stronger on the bottom than at the top)
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To: Dallas59

The fact that such a survey has to be taken says a lot about how our freedoms have been eroded...mostly through our own neglect sad to say. Solution: for every law passed repeal 10 until we get back to the original commandments. /Hah!


8 posted on 05/29/2009 5:15:51 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Clintonfatigued

I see...
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9 posted on 05/29/2009 5:18:30 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: Dallas59

Including “ liberal sociopolitical “ agendas like homosexual marriage and such would naturally hurt the scores of conservative states like Texas.


10 posted on 05/29/2009 5:18:51 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: OrangeHoof
Studies like this are worthless without studying the methodology. Does being pro-abortion = freedom? Does more pot smoking = freedom? Does more gay norming = freedom?

See post two.

11 posted on 05/29/2009 5:20:08 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

It is dangerous to attempt to cure cultural problems with legislation.


12 posted on 05/29/2009 5:21:29 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

If you like liberalism then I hope that you live in a liberal state.


13 posted on 05/29/2009 5:24:44 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

I don’t and I do. More’s the pity.


14 posted on 05/29/2009 5:26:24 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: ansel12

I am talking about federal legislation, of course.


15 posted on 05/29/2009 5:28:14 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

I don’t know what brought that up on this thread.


16 posted on 05/29/2009 5:32:04 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Clintonfatigued; freekitty; ZULU; Candor7; Polarik; LucyT; SkyPilot; sheik yerbouty; IrishMike; ...

We are all free Americans; correction, we used to all be free Americans.


17 posted on 05/29/2009 5:50:57 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Dallas59
Again with the "Moderate" crap.

The mere fact that the are pushing it, makes it something to be avoided.

18 posted on 05/29/2009 5:52:33 PM PDT by Blackhawk (God said it, I believe it, That settles it.)
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To: Dallas59
the right to smoke ... same sex partners

Must have missed this one when I read the Bill of Rights.

19 posted on 05/29/2009 6:00:55 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles, reality wins all the wars)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

We are all free Americans; correction, we used to all be free Americans.
_________________________________________
Conservatives know what you say.

The “Useful Idiot” sheeple believe they are free and smile while getting screwed without any lubricant.

Sorry for the crudeness, but that’s the way it is.


20 posted on 05/29/2009 6:15:31 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Dallas59

btt


21 posted on 05/29/2009 8:07:06 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: unkus

I rate the states freedom based on 2 things government control and police abuse of power. Here is my take on freedom:

Freest: Vermont
#2 Montana
#3 Maine
#4 New Hampshire
#5 Idaho

Least Ohio
#2 Texas
#3 Florida
#5 California
#6 New Jersey

Look at were you can be arrested for minor offenses, how many people are in prison per 100K, how many cops there are, how much the state tolerates bully police abuse. I see very little police presence in VT, MT, ME. In Texas they take cash from motorists, beat people, taze people, put innocent people on death row. That is NOT freedom.

Link to police beatings: http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/28/oklahoma-cop-pulls-ambulance-over-puts-emt-in-chokehold-while-patient-lingers/

Look at the federal prison maps, there are none in VT, MT, ME, NH. WY, ID!
http://www.libertyforlife.com/jail-police/prison_populaton.htm

Look at WHERE the Taser deaths are..... CA, FL, TX.... NOT in VT, MT, ME, NH, ID, WY: http://forums.starnewsonline.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1661088265/m/3621082047/p/3

Here’s another one: http://www.thumperwatch.org/

Here what a truly FREE state did: http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/2009/BillPdf/HB0228.pdf

Vermont, NH, ME, ID are similar. In TEXAS you have the MOST restrictions about WHERE you can carry a concealed pistol. New York does issue upstate, and there are very FEW places you cannot carry. In TX if your gun even “prints” through your clothes you are ARRESTED! I have never been harassed by NY police ( I am from vermont), but EVERY time I travel through OHIO I am stopped, harassed and “checked out’ just b/c I have out of state police. Is that FREEDOM?


22 posted on 05/29/2009 8:15:36 PM PDT by vermonter09
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To: vermonter09

I think you might be a Troll. We’ll see.


23 posted on 05/29/2009 8:32:36 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Clintonfatigued

I just heard today on local talk radio, from a very reliable host, Vicki McKenna, that Wisconsin will be as heavily taxed and fee-ed to death as California if our lame governor’s “budget” all gets passed. It will, we are dominatied by libtards here. I think Wisconsin deserves to be in the bottom 5 in the Freedom Index. Our capitol city, Madistan, is the Berkeley of the midwest. It don’t get much worse than that. Tofu and bean sprout eating sandal wearing marxists.....grrrr.

I am noting the 5 free-est states, for possible relocation at retirement age. I like the western states, but NH is not my cup of tea. TX, ID, and CO look good. Low property taxes are a must. We get robbed here on those. It’s a crime what they steal from us every year.


24 posted on 05/29/2009 8:56:05 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force." George Washington)
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To: unkus

“I think you might be a Troll. We’ll see”

No, I am just pointing out the facts. Been to many of those states. I don’t know about you, but I don’t feel comfortable with lot’s of police around me. If you don’t like NH thats fine, but TX? Stay in the Northern Rocky Mtn state states of MT, ID, WY or even WA. Colorado is LOADED with liberals from CA, and the police are known to be too aggressive. Denver police harass people for open carrying handguns in city limits. You won’t hear that happening in MT, ID, WY. I like VT b/c I can walk down Main St in Burlington at 2AM and the police won’t even look at me. Try that in a small Texas town!


25 posted on 05/29/2009 11:23:29 PM PDT by vermonter09
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To: vermonter09

I apologize to you. I see your points.


26 posted on 05/29/2009 11:29:08 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Sherman Logan

“Must have missed this one when I read the Bill of Rights. “

Please don’t make the mistake of thinking that your rights are your rights because they are spelled out in the Bill of Rights of the Constitution.

You have many rights just by virtue of being a human being.

Just because something is not in the Bill of Rights doesn’t mean it is not your right.


27 posted on 05/29/2009 11:53:26 PM PDT by Nik Naym (Everyone has a right to my opinion.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; ...



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28 posted on 05/30/2009 6:46:49 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: OrangeHoof
"Studies like this are worthless without studying the methodology. Does being pro-abortion = freedom? Does more pot smoking = freedom? Does more gay norming = freedom?"

IMHO, it's a 'you say tomato, I say toMAtoe' kinda thing.

The liberty to grow and injest a weed vs the State telling me what I can and cannot grow and injest. Conservative or liberal? Do I need the govt to protect me from myself or not?

The State telling me what I can or cannot do with another consenting adult. The govt can't legislate what is or is not a sin or what marriage in the eyes of the Lord.

I can't do the comparison with abortion because that involves taking the life of another.

Just some thoughts as I'm mainlining coffee to awake fully!

29 posted on 05/30/2009 7:16:42 AM PDT by sweet_diane (embracing Him.)
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To: vermonter09

...Good point. BTW, Welcome to FR...


30 posted on 05/30/2009 7:27:14 AM PDT by gargoyle (...66.7% , A good round number...)
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To: ConorMacNessa; sauropod; Lil'freeper; Bender2

oi...don’t we know it.


31 posted on 05/30/2009 7:34:17 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ([Advocate for] Mitt Romney[?], God help you, but you're on the wrong website ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: vermonter09
Look at WHERE the Taser deaths are..... CA, FL, TX

Those happen to be 3 of 4 most populous states in the country. Do you think that might be a reason why more people are tazed in these states?

Did you realize that more people die each year of natural causes in Texas than in North Dakota? See, that proves that living in Texas is dangerous. You should stay as far away from Texas as possible.


32 posted on 05/30/2009 8:59:12 AM PDT by DallasMike (9th-generation Texan)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

We are still free. Only those that have not lived under the yoke of tyranny and haven’t stopped to think about the current situation could make such statements. The Liberals want you to think that you’ve lost. Demoralization is a key in their strategy.

When the Libs said the same thing during the Bush years, I posed the same questions that I do now...what have you lost? How are you less free?


33 posted on 05/30/2009 11:20:10 AM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: sweet_diane

The State telling me whether I can or cannot carry box-cutters on an airplane. Or whether I can or cannot collect spousal benefits if my cat gets sick or dies. Everyone can define freedom in their own way.


34 posted on 05/30/2009 1:43:54 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: TheConservativeParty
TX, ID, and CO look good. Low property taxes are a must.

You'll be paying high property taxes in Texas because Texas has no state income tax. Property taxes are generally how they make up the lack of an income tax.

35 posted on 05/30/2009 1:47:50 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: vermonter09
I like VT b/c I can walk down Main St in Burlington at 2AM and the police won’t even look at me. Try that in a small Texas town!

As long as you aint some damn yankee tryin' to start sh!t at 2:00 am you can go armed. The police are the least of your concern. I would pop your stupid @ss if you trespassed onto my property, armed, at 2:00 am in small town Texas. I would have to call the sherriff to notify the coroner.

36 posted on 05/30/2009 2:06:01 PM PDT by AH_LiveRight
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To: OrangeHoof

Maybe CO then. I have relatives there. My Aunt pays per year, what I pay per month, in property taxes. She’s in CO Springs. I’m in southern WI. Granted our properties are quite different, but CO has way cheaper property taxes than WI. Love Colorado and visit every fall. I have a few years before making any real decisions on where to bug out to upon retirement. Heck the way it’s going, maybe I’ll be the farmer who doesn’t retire, I’ll just spade away...


37 posted on 05/30/2009 2:53:29 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force." George Washington)
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To: TheConservativeParty

I have family in Colorado too. It is a beautiful place to live but it is becoming a bit too popular. CO Springs is largely conservative. Focus on the Family is headquartered there (they fled California years ago). I know Colorado has a state income tax and they now have Democrats in power of state government which my sister regularly frets over. They could use some conservatives to blunt all the Californians moving into the state. Good luck.


38 posted on 05/30/2009 3:03:26 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Dallas59; fieldmarshaldj; rabscuttle385; BillyBoy; darkangel82

NH and CO won’t be on that list too much longer unless they through off the rat yoke.

I wonder where Illinois is, 6th?


39 posted on 05/30/2009 5:12:58 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: OrangeHoof

Yep. Define “FREE”.


40 posted on 05/30/2009 5:14:32 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Dallas59
Why doesn't "freest" have 3 e's in a row?



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41 posted on 05/30/2009 5:57:40 PM PDT by FreeKeys (I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it.)
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To: Dallas59

Great article and report.

I downloaded the PDF.

Thanks so much for posting.


42 posted on 05/30/2009 6:48:31 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Sherman Logan

In my state, you can kill a baby in the womb, but you can’t have a cigar bar or casinos.


43 posted on 05/30/2009 6:51:50 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: ConorMacNessa
My ex-great State of Ohio fairs very poorly.

Hey, ho, way to go, Ohio!

44 posted on 05/30/2009 6:55:51 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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