Texas School Board Chairman McLeroy Loses Leadership Post

ICR ^ | May 29, 2009 | Christine Dao

[GodGunsGuts]

Texas School Board Chairman McLeroy Loses Leadership Post

by Christine Dao*

Texas State Representative Don McLeroy (R-College Station) narrowly lost his bid on May 28 to retain his position as chairman of the State Board of Education. The 19-11 vote, which ran strictly along party lines, failed the two-thirds majority required for the nomination to pass.

Opponents of McLeroy cited his creationist viewpoint as a leading factor in the vote, while defenders, such as Senator Steve Ogden (R-Bryan) stated, “It is not fair to say that if you don’t believe Darwin’s theory of evolution or accept the argument that global warming is occurring, that you should not be on the State Board of Education.”[1]

McLeroy had pushed to keep...

[GodGunsGuts]

Or worse yet, Global Warming deniers! After all, Hitler only wanted to destroy non-native species...err...the Jews. Whereas the Global Warming deniers want to destroy the whole planet!

[Jaime2099]

Science? Who needs it when you have the Bible?

Heck, who needs science when you have Evolution. Evolution lets us all just guess our critiques away, have faith in nothingness, and enjoy a good ol' time in the land of make believe.

[Star Traveler]

You said — Or they are just trying to lull me into a false sense of security :o)

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Yeah..., it’s more like a “Hudna” that the Islamic Terrorists agree to... they never have a “peace treaty” with their enemies, but only lulls in the action in order to regroup and resupply for the next round of terrorism and killing and maiming...

LOL...

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A quote about Hudna...

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Hudna has a distinct meaning to Islamic fundamentalists, well-versed in their history: The prophet Mohammad struck a legendary, ten-year hudna with the Quraysh tribe that controlled Mecca in the seventh century. Over the following two years, Mohammad rearmed and took advantage of a minor Quraysh infraction to break the hudna and launch the full conquest of Mecca, the holiest city in Islam.

When Yassir Arafat infamously invoked Mohammad’s hudna in 1994 to describe his own Oslo commitments “on the road to Jerusalem,” the implication was clear. As Mideast expert Daniel Pipes explained, Arafat was asserting to his Islamic brethren that he will, “when his circumstances change for the better, take advantage of some technicality to tear up existing accords and launch a military assault on Israel.” Indeed, this is precisely what occurred in Sept. 2000 when Arafat & Co. launched a terror assault upon Israeli citizens.

[ http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/critiques/Hudna_With_Hamas.asp ]

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And another...

HUDNA - Arabic word often translated as “cease-fire.- Historically used as a tactic aimed at allowing the party declaring the hudna to regroup while tricking an enemy into lowering its guard. When the hudna expires, the party that declared it is stronger and the enemy weaker. The term comes from the story of the Muslim conquest of Mecca. Instead of a rapid victory, Muhammad made a ten-year treaty with the Kuraysh tribe. In 628 AD, after only two years of the ten-year treaty, Muhammad and his forces concluded that the Kuraysh were too weak to resist. The Muslims broke the treaty and took over all of Mecca without opposition.

[ http://www.theisraelproject.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp?c=hsJPK0PIJpH&b=886017&ct=1181591 ]

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I think this is your Hudna... :-)

[Jaime2099]

We want to destroy them in a scientific debate for all to see, which, be definition means, we want people to be able to make up their own minds.

Amen. Their obscure words, straw man talk, and doctored illustrations don't scare me in the slightest. The heart of Evolution is unobservable, unprovable, faith based, untestable, and a mockery to true science. In a debate they have nothing to fall back on but the behavior of bacteria and comical guesswork dating techniques along side laughable fossil "proof".

[Toddsterpatriot]

We want to destroy them in a scientific debate for all to see

You'd have to use science for that.

[Constitutionalist Conservative]

Science? Who needs it when you have the Bible?

What do you think about the proposed wording of the Texas science education standards?

[Moonman62]

For more on the persecution of Creation and ID scientists, teachers, etc.,

You mean the persecution of ignorance.

[Star Traveler]

You can see this documentary too...

Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed
http://www.expelledthemovie.com/
with Ben Stein

You can buy it here...
http://www.expelledstore.com/product.php?productid=26&cat=6&page=1

It’s on Amazon, too...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001BYLFFS/

It’s interesting to see that there are 318 5-star ratings and then, 180 1-star ratings, with hardly anything in the middle... LOL...

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You can also get it for just viewing if you want to download it on a BitTorrent site (using BitTorrent client software)...

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4443154/Expelled.No.Intelligence.Allowed%5BDVDRip%5DXviD-NeDiVx

Even that site generates a lot of “hate talk” about this documentary... :-)

[Moonman62]

“It is not fair to say that if you don’t believe Darwin’s theory of evolution

Darwin introduced the concept of natural selection to evolution. The concept of evolution had already been around for thousands of years.

[Jaime2099]

You'd have to use science for that.

That's something the Evolutionists have to worry about. Last time I looked, hocus pocus and guessing wasn't science, so I think their in big trouble.

[Toddsterpatriot]

You think science is hocus pocus and guessing? I think I see your problem.

[Caramelgal]

The UFO cultists are almost all Evos. Creationists tend not to fall for little green men on mars, astrology, Big Foot, and whatever other superstitions and fairytales the Evo-cultists generally fall for.

Really? You must not read any of the posts here about UFO’s, crop circles, etc. You might want to check out posts by Quix, who IIRC is also a creationist.

I don’t know any evolutionists who are scientists who subscribe to the pseudoscience of astrology and the crypto science of UFO’s and Big Foot. I certainly don’t subscribe to those. There may well be neo-pagans who believe in evolution but not all evolutionists are neo-pagans any more than just because some Christians believe in UFO’s and Big Foot, that all do. Strawman – look at argument.

Even geocentrism came from one of your fellow Evo-astrologists, Ptolemy. And it is the Creationists and IDers who are calling for open scientific debate between derwood’s atheist creation myth and Creation/ID.

Ptolemy was an evolutionist? Who knew? LOL! He certainly wasn’t the first or only geocentric. It was only when Copernicus and Galileo came along and aided by better optical telescopes and their meticulous scientific observations that BTW was contrary to the religious dogma of their day, that the geocentric model of our solar system fell apart.

The darwin drones, who represent a small minority of Evo-cultists, are the ones who are behaving like thugs. We have the numbers to open up the debate, and that is exactly what we should do. We have no interest in using force to shut down the Darwin-cult. We want to destroy them in a scientific debate for all to see, which, be definition means, we want people to be able to make up their own minds.

BS and good luck with that.

[Moonman62]

The evo-cultists are in rare supply lately on your threads, GGG.

Spam tends to get ignored after awhile.

[Jaime2099]

You think science is hocus pocus and guessing? I think I see your problem.

That does not even make sense in regards to my post *rolls eyes*.

[Star Traveler]

You said — Really? You must not read any of the posts here about UFO’s, crop circles, etc. You might want to check out posts by Quix, who IIRC is also a creationist.

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You should be pinging Quix, when talking about him... LOL... [don’t think he’s around for the moment; think he’s on a trip right now, but he’ll get this when he gets back...]

But, I think it’s fairly true that the Evolutionist thought *does* generate the concept of other extra-terrestrial civilizations, if “life” develops like they say, over millions of years. It’s only “natural” in their way of thinking to have a concept of millions of other extra-terrestrial civilizations out there, based on that idea. I can’t see how anyone can deny that. They “make a lot of hay” out of the idea that there should be a lot of extra-terrestrial life out in the universe if their ideas are right.

So, when we hear reports about UFOs and other such things, it’s also only natural for those who believe in evolution — in that it is the process by which life comes about and evolved everywhere in the universe — that they would think that these many reports of UFOs are those advanced life forms that exist out there, on this basis of evolutionary thought.

HOWEVER, you’ll also have other who say that these UFO reports may be real (they say “something” is actually happening there, that people are reporting) — but — that they are actually *not* what a large number of people (steeped in evolutionary thinking) may think it is (i.e., advanced civilizations, elsewhere, coming to visit).

These people that say that there are not these evolutionary processes going on in the universe (supposedly creating life in many, many other places), say that these UFO reports may be “something” but they are basically hoaxes, perpetrated upon the gullible “evolutionary-thinking” people to convince them to believe that these are advanced and other civilizations (since these evolutionary types think that there *has to be* all sorts of other life out there in the universe).

In other words, the ones who don’t believe in this evolutionary process creating life from inanimate matter, over a period of millions of years, from some vague and undefined process — think that people are being “hoaxed” into believe UFOs are representative of advanced civilizations (heck..., there are people reporting that they’ve been told that by those UFO-races, themselves... LOL...).

So, it would appear that the evolutionary-thinking people are being hoaxed into believing UFOs do represent this “reality” since they are told that there *has to be* all sorts of life (and intelligent life) elsewhere in the universe, and that “we” — definitely *cannot be* the only intelligent life/civilization in the universe.... :-)

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Now, as to *what* these things are (i.e., UFOs), well perhaps 90% are misperceptions and misunderstanding and/or lack of knowledge, along with, perhaps, some “enthusiasm” on the part of the viewer (especially enthusiasm born out of “evolution” no doubt... LOL...).

For the remainder (of those things seen), which do represent something going on and seen and not explained by our conventional mechanisms in this world we live in, there are many who think it represents being *hoaxed* and *fooled* by what the Bible tells us are beings who are evil and who have evil purposes and designs in our world. The Bible makes it very clear that they exist and are real and are around in our world.

I think “evolutionary thought” simply produces *more easily fooled people* rather than smarter people... LOL..

[GodGunsGuts]

And if that's not enough, the Wall Street Journal recently reported on a Gallop Poll that shows liberal Christian denominations and Evo-atheists are far more likely to be superstitious than conservative, evangelical Christian, church attenders:

Look Who's Irrational Now

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"What Americans Really Believe," a comprehensive new study released by Baylor University yesterday, shows that traditional Christian religion greatly decreases belief in everything from the efficacy of palm readers to the usefulness of astrology. It also shows that the irreligious and the members of more liberal Protestant denominations, far from being resistant to superstition, tend to be much more likely to believe in the paranormal and in pseudoscience than evangelical Christians."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178219865054585.html

[Ira_Louvin]

Seems that the ICR failed to mention Don Mcleroy D.D.S. dishonest and un-Christian quote mining………………

“Regrettably, inaccurate statements are now included in the current draft of the standards. These changes were adopted on the recommendation of Board Chairman Don McLeroy. To bolster his argument in favor of the changes, McLeroy presented quotes from various “authoritative” sources and passed them off as supporting his own doubts about evolution. By removing the “fine print” from his list of quotes, Dr. McLeroy forced his fellow board members to base their vote on incomplete and misleading information.

When the chair of the state school board uses out-of-context quotes in order to persuade others to act as he desires, he is undercutting the trust that has been placed in him. When he apparently plagiarizes those quotes from a website and then attempts to pass them off as the result of his own research, he is displaying a disappointing lack of academic integrity.”

http://www.anevolvingcreation.net/collapse/index.htm

[Quix]

very fascinating. Thanks

[GodGunsGuts]

My pleasure—GGG

[GodGunsGuts]

All I see from your link is a bunch of quotes mined from Don Mcleroy (R), ripped away from their original context. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

So what are we to take away from this, Ira? That whenever a conservative happens to be a creationist, you are happy when they lose their position of power?