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To: GodGunsGuts
The UFO cultists are almost all Evos. Creationists tend not to fall for little green men on mars, astrology, Big Foot, and whatever other superstitions and fairytales the Evo-cultists generally fall for.

Really? You must not read any of the posts here about UFO’s, crop circles, etc. You might want to check out posts by Quix, who IIRC is also a creationist.

I don’t know any evolutionists who are scientists who subscribe to the pseudoscience of astrology and the crypto science of UFO’s and Big Foot. I certainly don’t subscribe to those. There may well be neo-pagans who believe in evolution but not all evolutionists are neo-pagans any more than just because some Christians believe in UFO’s and Big Foot, that all do. Strawman – look at argument.

Even geocentrism came from one of your fellow Evo-astrologists, Ptolemy. And it is the Creationists and IDers who are calling for open scientific debate between derwood’s atheist creation myth and Creation/ID.

Ptolemy was an evolutionist? Who knew? LOL! He certainly wasn’t the first or only geocentric. It was only when Copernicus and Galileo came along and aided by better optical telescopes and their meticulous scientific observations that BTW was contrary to the religious dogma of their day, that the geocentric model of our solar system fell apart.

The darwin drones, who represent a small minority of Evo-cultists, are the ones who are behaving like thugs. We have the numbers to open up the debate, and that is exactly what we should do. We have no interest in using force to shut down the Darwin-cult. We want to destroy them in a scientific debate for all to see, which, be definition means, we want people to be able to make up their own minds.

BS and good luck with that.
32 posted on 05/30/2009 11:22:21 AM PDT by Caramelgal (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Caramelgal; GodGunsGuts; Quix

You said — Really? You must not read any of the posts here about UFO’s, crop circles, etc. You might want to check out posts by Quix, who IIRC is also a creationist.

You should be pinging Quix, when talking about him... LOL... [don’t think he’s around for the moment; think he’s on a trip right now, but he’ll get this when he gets back...]

But, I think it’s fairly true that the Evolutionist thought *does* generate the concept of other extra-terrestrial civilizations, if “life” develops like they say, over millions of years. It’s only “natural” in their way of thinking to have a concept of millions of other extra-terrestrial civilizations out there, based on that idea. I can’t see how anyone can deny that. They “make a lot of hay” out of the idea that there should be a lot of extra-terrestrial life out in the universe if their ideas are right.

So, when we hear reports about UFOs and other such things, it’s also only natural for those who believe in evolution — in that it is the process by which life comes about and evolved everywhere in the universe — that they would think that these many reports of UFOs are those advanced life forms that exist out there, on this basis of evolutionary thought.

HOWEVER, you’ll also have other who say that these UFO reports may be real (they say “something” is actually happening there, that people are reporting) — but — that they are actually *not* what a large number of people (steeped in evolutionary thinking) may think it is (i.e., advanced civilizations, elsewhere, coming to visit).

These people that say that there are not these evolutionary processes going on in the universe (supposedly creating life in many, many other places), say that these UFO reports may be “something” but they are basically hoaxes, perpetrated upon the gullible “evolutionary-thinking” people to convince them to believe that these are advanced and other civilizations (since these evolutionary types think that there *has to be* all sorts of other life out there in the universe).

In other words, the ones who don’t believe in this evolutionary process creating life from inanimate matter, over a period of millions of years, from some vague and undefined process — think that people are being “hoaxed” into believe UFOs are representative of advanced civilizations (heck..., there are people reporting that they’ve been told that by those UFO-races, themselves... LOL...).

So, it would appear that the evolutionary-thinking people are being hoaxed into believing UFOs do represent this “reality” since they are told that there *has to be* all sorts of life (and intelligent life) elsewhere in the universe, and that “we” — definitely *cannot be* the only intelligent life/civilization in the universe.... :-)

Now, as to *what* these things are (i.e., UFOs), well perhaps 90% are misperceptions and misunderstanding and/or lack of knowledge, along with, perhaps, some “enthusiasm” on the part of the viewer (especially enthusiasm born out of “evolution” no doubt... LOL...).

For the remainder (of those things seen), which do represent something going on and seen and not explained by our conventional mechanisms in this world we live in, there are many who think it represents being *hoaxed* and *fooled* by what the Bible tells us are beings who are evil and who have evil purposes and designs in our world. The Bible makes it very clear that they exist and are real and are around in our world.

I think “evolutionary thought” simply produces *more easily fooled people* rather than smarter people... LOL..


35 posted on 05/30/2009 12:15:36 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Caramelgal; metmom
I don’t know any evolutionists who are scientists who subscribe to the pseudoscience of astrology and the crypto science of UFO’s and Big Foot.

Well that's OK, I don't know of any Christians that subscribe to: "In health class, let’s teach all about the “sin nature” of disease and tell little Johnny his grandmother died from cancer because she wasn’t right with the Lord and is probably roasting in Hell. Tell him that a “natural” and Biblical diet along with come coffee enemas and lot’s of prayer will save him from the same fate."

either.

62 posted on 05/31/2009 5:02:55 AM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: Caramelgal

Not sure what point you’d like my honest response to.

Yes, I believe in Creation.

No, I don’t believe the earth is only ~6,000 years old.

Yes, I believe flying saucers/UFO’s really exist.

Yes, I believe we built our own fleet of them as my relative said.

Yes, I believe we ‘back engineered’ some such as my relative said.

Yes, I believe the evil critters taught the globalist black ops specialists how to build our own fleet as my relative essentially said.

Yes, I believe that most naysayers hereon are utterly low life clueless idiots with virtually no integrity to themselves nor to the facts.


78 posted on 06/01/2009 1:08:17 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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