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Texas balks at Hollywood take on Waco tragedy
chron.com ^ | May 30, 2009 | ALLAN TURNER

Posted on 05/30/2009 8:37:24 PM PDT by smokingfrog

Saying movie twists facts, Film Commission denies it a state rebate, but filming will go on

Movie producer Emilio Ferrari vowed last week to move ahead with his $30 million screen depiction of the deadly 1993 clash between federal agents and Branch Davidian cultists, even though the Texas Film Commission says the project could taint Texas’ image and is unworthy of taxpayer support.

The movie, Waco, would be the first feature-film treatment of the 51-day federal siege of David Koresh’s Central Texas compound that led to the death of four federal agents and more than 80 cult members.

Ferrari, whose production credits include Baby on Board, starring Heather Graham, called the incident the “nation’s biggest tragedy, after 9/11.”

“And this was by Americans against Americans,” he said. “It’s been completely swept under the rug. I think people have a right to know what happened. I’m not a political guy at all. I’m making a story from every point of view.”

The Texas Film Commission’s director, Bob Hudgins, said the movie would not be eligible for a state rebate of up to 15 percent on in-state production costs because the movie doesn’t “accurately portray Texans.” In language creating the stipend, lawmakers specified that Film Commission grants should be denied movies that distort facts to make Texas look bad.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: ferrari; hollywood; hudgins; waco
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1 posted on 05/30/2009 8:37:24 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

> I’m not a political guy at all. I’m making a story from every point of view.”

Sure you are.


2 posted on 05/30/2009 8:39:55 PM PDT by max americana
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To: smokingfrog

Will they show Gen Wesley’s Clark involvement in the siege?


3 posted on 05/30/2009 8:41:32 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: smokingfrog

Starring Tom Cruise at Janet Reno?


4 posted on 05/30/2009 8:43:31 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: smokingfrog

It’s about time someone shined the light on this Clinton fiasco. Regardless of your opinion on the Branch Davidians, those people could have been left alone to no harm,or picked up on their way to Wataburger on Sunday morning. BUT, the local coppers had new toys to play with and wanted to be sheriff/soldiers for some kicks.
I’ll never forget watching this stupid fiasco on the local news. “Stay off the roof” was all I could say as the guys climbed up only to be shot with high power rifles zipping through the thin plywood they were standing on.......


5 posted on 05/30/2009 8:45:30 PM PDT by 9422WMR (When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away.)
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To: max americana

OK Freepers: Who would you cast to play Janet Reno? John Lithgow (World According to Garp) would be a good choice. Abe Vigoda is also a possibility.


6 posted on 05/30/2009 8:45:47 PM PDT by joejm65
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To: smokingfrog

Doesn’t sound as if this guy is approaching the story from the wrong angle. The man who made the documentary “Waco: Rules of Engagement” contributed to the making of the movie.

What I would really love to see is a Michael Moore-style documentary/celebrity-pursuit of former FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi, who played a bloody role at Ruby Ridge and apparently at Waco as well.

It seems he still works for the gummint. And amazingly, no one can find a photo of this man less than twenty years old.


7 posted on 05/30/2009 8:46:34 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: bigbob

Who will play Koresh? I think Johnny Depp would be perfect.


8 posted on 05/30/2009 8:46:35 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: FTJM

We can be sure they’ll mention the fact the four federal agents killed were all former Clinton bodyguards, too. And the only ones there, I believe, by yet another amazing coincidence.


9 posted on 05/30/2009 8:46:54 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: joejm65

Will Ferrell played Janet Reno back then on SNL.


10 posted on 05/30/2009 8:47:00 PM PDT by max americana
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To: bigbob

‘Starring Tom Cruise at Janet Reno?’

Nah. He’s too short and not manly enough... :-)


11 posted on 05/30/2009 8:47:10 PM PDT by joejm65
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To: max americana

‘Will Ferrell played Janet Reno back then on SNL.’

I thought of him as I hit the post button. Good choice.


12 posted on 05/30/2009 8:48:17 PM PDT by joejm65
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To: 9422WMR
Don't forget Ruby Ridge or the Montant Freemen.

These types of people would be content living in their compounds and bunker miles from society and they would never bother anyone. Also remember Ruby Ridge was about 1 sawed off shotgun.

13 posted on 05/30/2009 8:48:18 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: smokingfrog
The re-write was to have George W. Bush igniting the compound from the inside... < /sarc>

(and in case anyone gets the wrong idea, Bush was not governor during the Waco incident. It was Democrat Ann Richards. Bush was then a private citizen running the Texas Rangers baseball club into the ground.)

14 posted on 05/30/2009 8:48:54 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: bigbob
LoL!

And David Hyde Pierce as Weasely Clark!


15 posted on 05/30/2009 8:49:19 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: joejm65

WACO!—Rated R

Starring: Wil Farrell as Janet Reno
Perez Hilton as David Koresh
Rob Blagovich as Bill Clinton


16 posted on 05/30/2009 8:51:55 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm not calling in sick; I'm calling in gone!)
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To: smokingfrog
And this was by Americans against Americans

Iirc, the Branch Davidians were from all over, not just the US.

17 posted on 05/30/2009 8:54:09 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: joejm65
I don't know if Abe Vigoda is alive or dead, but either way he'd be a great Janet Reno.
18 posted on 05/30/2009 8:55:30 PM PDT by Brucifer (Proud member of the Double Secret Reloading Underground.)
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To: joejm65
K Freepers: Who would you cast to play Janet Reno?

Well, the "Governator" thing isn't working out for Arnold...

19 posted on 05/30/2009 8:55:42 PM PDT by TChad
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To: LukeL

Iirc, The Montana Freemen were involved in issuing securities they did not redeem (fraud). That is what got them in trouble. Iirc, no one got killed in that one.


20 posted on 05/30/2009 8:57:06 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: OrangeHoof

True but Bush 41 was president when the whole thing began.It was his justice department and the ATF that got things started.


21 posted on 05/30/2009 8:58:20 PM PDT by eastforker (.)
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To: eastforker

Just remember, the entire effort was “for the childrunz”

Didn’t work out to well.


22 posted on 05/30/2009 9:00:24 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Brucifer
I don't know if Abe Vigoda is alive or dead, but either way he'd be a great Janet Reno.

Abe is still alive at the age of 88 and he's played a law enforcement officer before (Fish on Barney Miller).
23 posted on 05/30/2009 9:00:42 PM PDT by Ticonderoga34 (A Community Organizer is the 21st century version of a Ward Heeler.)
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To: eastforker

Also, don’t forget Ruby Ridge was under Bush 1.


24 posted on 05/30/2009 9:01:03 PM PDT by BGHater (It's easy to be a Conservative now.)
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To: eastforker

It depends on when you consider it “started”. The first confrontation was on February 28th, 1993 which was during Clinton’s presidency. If you want to include the surveillance, etc. then it would have started months earlier. But the powderkeg wasn’t lit until Clinton was in charge.


25 posted on 05/30/2009 9:03:05 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: eastforker

You said, “bush was the president”? Hardly: from wickipedia nutcase;
The Waco Siege[11] (also known as the Waco Massacre)[12] began on February 28, 1993 when the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) attempted to execute a search warrant at the Branch Davidian ranch at Mount Carmel, a property located nine miles (14 km) east-northeast of Waco, Texas. An exchange of gunfire resulted in the deaths of four agents and six followers of David Koresh. A subsequent 51-day siege by the Federal Bureau of Investigation ended on April 19 when fire destroyed the compound. Seventy-six people (24 of them British nationals)[13] died in the fire, including more than 20 children and two pregnant women, along with Davidian leader Vernon Wayne Howell, better known as David Koresh.


26 posted on 05/30/2009 9:06:02 PM PDT by 9422WMR (When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away.)
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To: sinanju
...former FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi, who played a bloody role at Ruby Ridge and apparently at Waco as well...

Someone once commented to me that there was probably a "Patriot Underground" movement in America.

I told him that there wasn't. He asked how I knew.

I said: "Because Lon Horiuchi is still alive."

27 posted on 05/30/2009 9:06:08 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Endeavor to persevere.)
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To: mylife; BGHater

Waco is an example of what happens when do gooder organized religious types demand that government step in and do something when a group of people think and worship different than theey do. Also, why we went into Somalia after countless pleas to save the starving children.


28 posted on 05/30/2009 9:07:36 PM PDT by eastforker (.)
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To: 9422WMR

This will be a no-name movie that probably comes and goes quickly...with no one really paying $7 to watch Waco. Even for TV purposes...I see little value. If you pulled up the actual event...it was like a comic opera...with folks on both sides acting crazy. Imagine a Christian cult...whose biggest interest...is gun collecting. Imagine a group of federal guys, who are performing a job in a comical way and act like they’ve never done anything like this before.


29 posted on 05/30/2009 9:09:35 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: eastforker

Just like that situation recently at the LDS compound.


30 posted on 05/30/2009 9:10:25 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 9422WMR
BUT, the local coppers had new toys to play with and wanted to be sheriff/soldiers for some kicks.

It wasn't local cops. It was the BATFags that decided a paramilitary operation was necessary.

The drugs angle didn't even come up for a couple of days and that was just to get the FBI to come in and cover for their incompetence.

31 posted on 05/30/2009 9:10:47 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We either Free America ourselves, or it is midnight for humanity for a thousand years.)
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To: 9422WMR

Do a little more research and you will find out the compound was being compromised by the feds at least 8 months earlier .


32 posted on 05/30/2009 9:12:08 PM PDT by eastforker (.)
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To: 9422WMR

The attacks were by the ATF not the sheriffs department.

The Branch Dividians were warned by someone in the sheriffs department that the ATF were coming and they were prepared...

This was just the beginning of the feds coming after religious believers that were also armed.....


33 posted on 05/30/2009 9:12:59 PM PDT by tdsoon
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To: 9422WMR
You're close.
It wasn't the locals. I remember the sheriff was pissed off saying they could have arrested Koresh in town picking up the mail.
It was the ATF mid level bureaucrats wanting to play with their teams to enhance their resumes. So, they got a lot of good agents killed, kicked over a hornet's nest of wack jobs, escalated a situation that called for de escalation, and the politicians made just about every bad call it was possible to make ending up with a lot of innocent people dead.

Far right idiots called it the Evil Empire, but it was the biggest FUBAR of amateurs and morons it was possible to congregate at a single goat f-—. Still pisses me off no end.

34 posted on 05/30/2009 9:15:03 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: IrishCatholic

Sorry, your right it was not the locals, my apology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_Siege
It’s been a few years...


35 posted on 05/30/2009 9:20:00 PM PDT by 9422WMR (When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away.)
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To: sinanju
And amazingly, no one can find a photo of this man less than twenty years old.

They got him hid real good.
36 posted on 05/30/2009 9:21:06 PM PDT by allmost
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To: smokingfrog
Take a moment to picture this...
37 posted on 05/30/2009 9:21:30 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Endeavor to persevere.)
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To: LukeL
These types of people would be content living in their compounds...

Well maybe not the Freemen. Check out the wiki page on them. They created their own court and took out liens against all sorts of US public officials, then sold the liens as commercial paper on the international banking market. Hilarious!

38 posted on 05/30/2009 9:25:17 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: smokingfrog

Why would there be taxpayer support in the first place?


39 posted on 05/30/2009 9:26:45 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: sinanju
Here's something I didn't know. Got it from the Wikipedia entry for Horiuchi:

For the five months following the Waco inferno, Timothy McVeigh worked at gun shows and handed out free cards printed up with Horiuchi's name and address, "in the hope that somebody in the Patriot movement would assassinate the sharpshooter". He wrote hate mail to the sniper, suggesting that "what goes around, comes around", and debated putting aside his plan to target the Murrah Building to instead simply target Horiuchi, or a member of his family.

40 posted on 05/30/2009 9:27:41 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Endeavor to persevere.)
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To: 9422WMR

What surprises me is that they would be making it now. Like any totalitarian ideology they don’t normally allow criticism.
Waco was a Dem run affair.

With the run up to the last presidential election Disney buried “The Path to 9/11” taking a financial hit to prevent its sales. If they were willing to lose millions to prevent that from getting out, why do this now? I wonder what is up with this project?


41 posted on 05/30/2009 9:31:12 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: eastforker
True but Bush 41 was president when the whole thing began.It was his justice department and the ATF that got things started.

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!

The ATF raided the Branch Davidian compound on February 28, 1993. The President at the time was William Jefferson Clinton.

42 posted on 05/30/2009 9:36:14 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01

Ruby Ridge did happen under Bush 41.


43 posted on 05/30/2009 9:38:12 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: IrishCatholic

When I saw American Tanks being used against American citizens. I knew our country was gone..


44 posted on 05/30/2009 9:38:35 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: 9422WMR

They could of picked those people up on there way to Chucky Chez.Way to go Ms. Reno


45 posted on 05/30/2009 9:39:21 PM PDT by Canes101
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To: Smokin' Joe

Lotsa black Americans died there. Where were the JustUs bruthas?


46 posted on 05/30/2009 9:40:15 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: smokingfrog

Hillary isn’t going to be happy about a movie depicting one of the many failures of their administration. /s


47 posted on 05/30/2009 9:40:43 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: FReepaholic

This may or not be true. Wikipedia is completely untrustworthy.


48 posted on 05/30/2009 9:47:03 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: max americana

Biggest tragedy other than 9/11? How about Oklahoma City in April of 1995??? Pearl Harbor????


49 posted on 05/30/2009 9:48:24 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (I plan to give the new President the same respect and dignity the other side gave Bush.)
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To: dfwgator
The poster's reference was clearly to Waco, not Ruby Ridge.
50 posted on 05/30/2009 9:48:44 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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