Posted on 05/31/2009 9:35:48 AM PDT by Kansas58
Kansas Abortionist George Tiller was shot today as he was going to Church.
(Excerpt) Read more at kansas.com ...
One murderer murdering another murderer. Neither will be justified before God. Tiller became anti-abortion today, but he was one day to late.
Even better considering how many non-practicing Jews have pushing abortion!
Got to run. I’m going to have to just agree to disagree with you on this theology today. You’re a little more
“Jonathan Edwards” than me. But at least we both love Jesus,,thats a start.
You seem to have something against God. I pray for you.
“I’d suggest you look up the definition of murder”
.45 to the head of an unarmed man work for ya? And wrap your head around this. Why didnt he just kidnap him and lock him away somewhere? Face it,,murder guy was a nut.
A lot of dim bulbs at FR these days. Must be a global warming thing.
That’s true but I was speaking about worshipping God on Sundays.
“Would Jesus murder an abortionist?”
Now you *know better* than to ask things like that! All that matters is what Moses did, and things in Exodus.
placemarker
Satan see’s America as more pleasing to him than NAZI Germany = America worse than nazi Germany.
Im a simple man, but “greater feat of evil” means worse.
Of course, as a conservative, i think words have meanings.
Get it? I thought not...you poopy head. I used periods JUST for you.
So tell me how killing an abortionist helps the pro-life cause and how that’s any different than Islamofascist rag heads flying planes into buildings because they think they’re doing the will of God? Tiller’s murderer is no Colonel Claus and he didn’t do us pro-lifers any favors.
Ill Pray for you too. That you can escape cult of the mosiac law.
It was probably over a poker debt.
John Brown’s body lies a-mold’ring in the grave
John Brown’s body lies a-mold’ring in the grave
John Brown’s body lies a-mold’ring in the grave
His soul goes marching on
Glory, Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory, Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory, Glory! Hallelujah!
His soul is marching on
He captured Harper’s Ferry with his nineteen men so true
He frightened old Virginia till she trembled
through and through
They hung him for a traitor, themselves the traitor crew
His soul is marching on
Glory, Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory, Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory, Glory! Hallelujah!
His soul is marching on
John Brown died that the slave might be free,
John Brown died that the slave might be free,
John Brown died that the slave might be free,
But his soul is marching on!
Glory, Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory, Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory, Glory! Hallelujah!
His soul is marching on
The stars above in Heaven are looking kindly down
The stars above in Heaven are looking kindly down
The stars above in Heaven are looking kindly down
On the grave of old John Brown
Glory, Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory, Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory, Glory! Hallelujah!
His soul is marching on
I said your remark was an idiot remark, not you. Anyone makes one from time to time. I did not judge you as an idiot and I would appreciate the same decency from you.
I think your comment about BO could be construed as inflammatory, supporting the notion that news commentators that are not leftists need to be shut down as they promote violence. This is a very real left wing mantra that I do not want to see us promoting.
I did not know that you were joking but thought you were making an exaggeration because you think BO is somehow too prolife in the wrong way. I think that this was easy to do as I do not know you, nor the way that you joke about. Sorry, I drew a wrong conclusion about you.
Posted in ref to post 1,036:
No suspect? Does anyone know the whereabouts of Bill O’Reilly?
What an idiot remark!
Ok,,i worked my way to top of the thread FINALLY! Im king of the hill!! Im out now, my butt hurts from this chair.
Not yet. But you will be when you turn 18.
I get to be 18 AGAIN?? NO way!!!! Thats the best news i’ve had all day.
She is lucky to have a friend such as yourself right now.
Abortion “doctors” worship at the Altar of Moloch.
excellant post.
As far as Tiller goes, good riddance to bad rubbish. The good thing is that children are also saved by this. Late term abortions kill viable children. No tears shed here. None.
If I was a Kansas attorney, I'd argue defense of others and push for jury nullification. It's the only shot he has. Put Tiller's ghost on trial.
Well, of course. From the story...
"However profound our differences as Americans over difficult issues such as abortion, they cannot be resolved by heinous acts of violence," the president said in a statement issued by the White House.
You know, right now I am spending a long weekend in Gettysburg, Pa., with my family. I have spent the last two days with them studying the Civil War and the horrendous cost spent by thousands upon thousands - on both sides of the Mason-Dixon line.
Coming back to the hotel tonight, I turned on FR and read the news about Tiller. Almost immediately, a thought occurred to me.
Where would we be today if Lincoln had stated those exact words back in 1861?
A) claim to accept Christ
and
B) fail to do everything possible to protect the lives of innocent little prenatal babies from murder by abortion.
Mosiac? Is that like a checkerboard?
Don’t turn your back on God the Father.
An imperious SCOTUS denied us that option in Roe v. Wade, shut off all debate and made half of all Americans into outlaws of conscience.
That's why the pressures are so enormous and dangerous. There is no release valve in the machinery of state.
It's no different, IMO. When a person gets to the point that he ambushes and murders...and does it inside a church, he's no different than Mohammed Atta, who hit one of the towers.
Unfortunately....as many in this forum have a general mistrust of Muslims, now people's radical opinion of social conservatives will be reinforced.
That's a fact.
“Do you....or anybody else on this thread agree that this shooting was a ‘cowardly act’?”
Not neccesarily. If he truly realized the consequences, the shooter might be a very brave man. The fact that he drove away in an attempt to escape those consequences is merely a sign of rational thought.
It would be interesting if the defense attorneys take that position when entering a plea of not guilty.
Sounds fair.
I am not a purist. I believe any restriction on abortion should be passed into law. However, I still believe it is morally wrong to kill a baby that was conceived by rape or incest and I would support legislation to ban those abortions as well. The only exception would be when the life of the baby and the life of the mother are both in danger (ie ectopic pregnancy). Personally, I would (and have) continued a pregnancy that was risky to my own life. The baby was not in jeopardy and my ob was able to manage my condition and all turned out well. In fact, before I chose my ob, I called to see if they performed or ever referred women for abortions. I didnt even want to have the issue come up.
I beleive in jury nullification in very, very rare but needed cases.
I don’t 100% oppose abortion.
You see, I do not view a newly fertilized egg as a person-—yet. Of course, as the fetus develops into that which clearly looks like a human, is almost, or all-but ready to survive outside the womb, then yes, I would oppose such an abortion. However, I don’t take a theological view of the situation. I take a practical view of it. I see no value/reward in destroying the next generation. Of course, there are those who say we need stem cells, and things along those lines. No thanks, not for me-—I’d rather take other avenues of research. We should protect the next generation, but, there are gray areas (in my opinion, since you asked for it)-—rape and/or incest. In cases of rape/incest, I think it is perfectly fine to immediately abort the fertilized egg/fetus. But, remember, I do not view this issue from a religious perspective.
On the other hand, I think of all the kids who are in gestation six, seven, eight, and nine months and are killed by this goon.
I can't shed a tear. Good riddance. I can't condone this, but I understand it.
Gods will be done.
Sadly, it won’t matter what statement they put out, they will be branded as having gun in hand from the pro-death crowd from the president down.
And in protection of yourself or another. There are very few but specific times when taking a life is warranted.
Not in this case, though I do not mourn his death, but to say the ONLY time when taking a life is justified is in a just war is wrong.
I hate abortion with a passion and want it to end but I also realize that we need to elect a President and a congress who will nominate and confirm Supreme Court justices that will over turn Roe v Wade. And the only way we do that is by educating our friends and family members about the horrors of abortion so they will be less likely to have abortions themselves, and will vote with us for pro-life candidates for local and national office.
Murdering abortionists will only cause the pro-life movement to be marginalized as fringe radicals and will push those on the fence to side with the pro-choice, or more accurately, the pro-death side.
DARN IT!!! (wanted to use harsher language here)
My argument is flawed-—
I had never considered that rape/incest would be such a small percentage of abortions(whatever the real stats, they would be quite low).
If abortions were only allowed for such situations, then a high percentage of those women who would be inclined to get abortions would cry wolf.
What a mess that would create for society and the legal system. No thanks.
Therefore, from a practical standpoint, and of my own opinion that abortion is not, in general, a positive thing, I must now be 100% against abortion, regardless of the situation.
Now that is a good question
View my latest post, I think it is #1292 of the thread.
You may have to backtrack it to make sense of it, but you may be surprised. I have changed my stance.
I admire your courage and honesty.
If and early untimely death is good enough for those helpless babies it’s good enough for Dr Geaorge Tiller.
May my Lord have mercy on his soul.
Look what we have become.
I’m sorry, but killing abortionists will not end abortion, but will only make things harder for the pro-life cause.
Can anyone truly fathom that George Tiller has ended the lives of over 60,000 infants? I can’t wrap my mind around that at all and I’m sure no one in the pro-life movement can.
Operation Rescues response was perfect, though will be turned against them. They did not mourn the death of the man but made the point that non-violence has always been the hallmark of the pro-life movement, with very few exceptions that have exploited by the media.
My first statement on hearing of Tillers murder was I hoped he was having dinner with satan but that this was not good for the pro-life movement.
Not my most Christian comment but one that I”m sure is shared by many who do not approve of Tillers murder and would have preferred he had been taken care of by the court system.
I am VERY proud of you.
If you want to do something really REALLY enriching and uplifting, I would invite you to come to Washington, DC when the annual March for Life occurs in late January. You will never be the same.
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