Skip to comments.George Tiller (Child Murderer) shot to death at Wichita church
Posted on 05/31/2009 9:35:48 AM PDT by Kansas58
Kansas Abortionist George Tiller was shot today as he was going to Church.
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You’re question is right on the mark. A society can’t have any moral standing to say we will outlaw all but some murders just so we can outlaw most murders.
What if it was done by a father whose baby daughter or baby son was killed by Tiller?
Would it be justice then?
Good. Now go save some lives.
Did I ever claim otherwise? And while you’re trying for that home run nothing happens and millions die.
The use of incrementalism is not acceptance of abortion.
If I'm going to expect so called moderate Muslims to condemn acts of terror done in the name Islam then It's only right I condemn those who commit similar acts in the name of my faith.
I could care less about your facts, I just want to do the right thing and murdering abortionists isn't it.
Well I neither support, nor understand this. Murder is murder. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Prayers lifted for Tiller’s family and friends. He did NOT, NOT, NOT deserve to die like this.
God don't go around murdering for kicks. This murder of Tiller speaks more about the murderer's gift of Free Will given to each of us at birth.
Was this the taking of an innocent life?
If you believe that an act is murder and that it will continue unabated, what is your moral obligation, if any, to stop it?
How would you stop it if the person committing the immoral act stated he is determined to comtinue?
B) fail to do everything possible to protect the lives of innocent little prenatal babies from murder by abortion.
Sure they can. It's called "repentence".
Who are you to say what Tiller deserved?
I do not think that I had the right to shoot Tiller, so I did not shoot Tiller.
But it would be just as wrong for me to claim that Tiller did not deserve this.
That is for God to decide, don’t you think?
Thank you for your honest reply. That is what I was looking for. We disagree but I respect your honesty.
Yes. There are some posts on this thread that I agree with.
And Tiller was a ghoul. He makes my skin crawl.
However, I’m also disturbed that the mods have seen fit to insert “Child Murderer” into the titles of some threads. I don’t disagree with the description of course. But are they condoning murder?
To be honest, I was scared to death. I was raised with strong convictions about abortion and it was never even an option in my mind. Thank you for your kind post anyway.
Our government refuses to protect the unborn, even the viable babies killed by Tiller.
Our government WILL prosecute Tiller’s killer.
Tiller will receive more respect, under the law, than the babies, and MOTHERS, that Killer Tiller killed!
To me, calling Tiller a child killer is the honest truth.
Tiller’s shooter will be prosecuted. This will prevent the pure anarchy that would happen, otherwise.
However, I refuse to shed a tear for Tiller.
He was a monster, as bad as any other monster in human history.
Oh. I agree that he’s a child killer. And I don’t shed any tears for him either.
But these people who murder abortion doctors are giving us a bad name.
Did you see all the pro-life spokespeople condemning this act? Do you think they’re lying? I don’t.
I’m somebody who does not condone vigilantism. Nor do I condone anarchy.
I don’t agree with abortion overall either, but whether you like it or not, it IS legal in this country. (Doesn’t make it right but it’s legal)
Roeder, if he did this, had no right to do it. God doesn’t approve of Tiller being murdered any more than the abortions Tiller performed.
For Tiller’s life to be taken from him by another person is wrong. Nothing justifies his murder. Nothing.
Two wrongs do not make a right. And this is wrong.
I simply say that “murder of abortionists can not be stopped by laws against the murder of abortionists”
And, I ask, “Why can't I be ‘pro-choice’ on the subject of shooting abortionists?”
I would never do it, and I would never encourage anyone else to do it.
But, it is between the shooter and the shooters God, isn't it?
Hey, if my argument doesnt work here, it doesnt work for the pregnant mother, either, does it?????
Again, this murder illustrates why SCOTUS should NOT be the business of legislating from the bench. When SCOTUS does so, it disenfranchises millions of Americans who don't share the liberal sentiments of five unelected self-important liberal lawyers in black robes. That isn't good for the country.
And, God did allow it to happen.
It is entirely possible to believe that the shooter carried out God’s plan, even if the shooter is punished, by God and the Government, for what the shooter did.
It is not your place to judge the shooter.
Those who corrupt the law demand that we respect the law that they corrupted.
Such is the way, with tyrants!
I’m not celebrating. The POS who killed Tiller has destroyed any chance of ending legalized abortion for another 100 years at least. Now things can only get worse. I also do not rule out the possibility of seeing legalized toddler murder within the next 20 years. America will be ready for it by then.
However, the Unabomber has not slowed down Al Gore, has he?
I haven’t read every post on every thread. Not even close. However, here are two points of consideration and they may have already come up.
— How guilty is the *mother* who participates in the abortion?
— This one is paranoid, but I’ll ask it anyway. What if the abortion doctor killers are actually working for the other side in order to discredit the prolife movement? (I told you it was paranoid)
Amazing isn’t it? First there was John Brown now this one.
I prefer stopping abortion the old fashioned Christian way by voting for pro-life candidates, and by changing people's hearts and minds.
If you think killing abortionists is the way to end abortion than fine, but don't expect any sympathy or kudos from me when you're found guilty of murder and sentenced to life in prison with your new cell mates Bubba and Bruce, who will be more than glad to keep you company.
Quite a few, I believe.
The prolife movement will be fine.
This hurts, but it is not something that will stop us from doing what is right.
What an idiotic thought.
Our laws should recognize that people in tough spots need legal and moral guidance.
“deadly force” rules govern how a cop, or an average citizen, should behave in a life or death situation.
Likewise, we need to understand that pregnant women need a frame work that does not say: “Its your decision, and we want you to kill your baby” -— sorry but that is what current law says.
By your logic, God allows abortion also. Get over it.
Your post is pure melodramatic overextrapolation.
I asked a question about moral obligation and equating this killing with terrorism. Is this your answer?
What a HYPOCRITE! Why would a LOSER like Tiller EVER go to CHURCH??
Local Fox News says there have been 8, EIGHT murders of abortionists since Roe V. Wade.
We will get through this.
Absolutely right. It amazes me how many people will not lift a finger to stop murders from happening. For God’s sake this butcher was running an abbatoir. And by condoning this horrific practice this nation is already paying the price.
I can’t prove these things but my cynicism has never been wrong before.
Wrong this time. You underestimate the good side.
I’m saying that the woman might be an all too willing participant.
I once heard a lady say that carrying an unwanted child all the way to birth conflicted with her unalienable right of the pursuit of happiness. I’m not joking.
Many here agree it’s murder. If it’s murder and we know it will contiue,don’t we have a moral obligation to stop it.
Kinda like a mob boss being knocked off.....I’m not feeling sorry for the scumbag....no matter who did it.
Then how is it your “job” to judge the abortionist’s actions?? To your line of thinking then, God must have “allowed” the abortions too. That’s like saying God is responsible for evil.
To my line of thinking God is not responsible for the taking of life by man. All of it grieves him.
It will be the job of twelve of the shooters peers to judge this shooter. It’s my job to judge right from wrong.
And this. was. wrong.
I will never be in favor of killing abortionists no matter how vile they are because it only hurts the pro-life cause and makes it much harder to win over those on the fence, and that's a fact.
I have simply said, from the beginning, that it is:
When the SCOTUS and other tyrants, in Government, make it impossible to stop or even limit late term abortions, when our government forces ITS WILL, on the people, instead of the other way around:
REBELLION AND VIOLENCE AND VIGILANTISM IS GUARANTEED!
Our government caused this problem.
Our government caused this problem by fiat, by refusing to allow the will of the people to count for anything!
And, the statists and tyrants know FULL WELL, that we will rebel from the moral and financial yokes they have placed on us.
The tyrants and statists know full well that some of us will behave poorly, under the strain.
They will use that bad behavior to justify even more tyrannical behavior, on the part of government.
That is the true danger we face.
The tyrants in government WANT us to behave this way!
As posted previously, however, if ALL prolifers were in favor of killing abortionists, ALL OF THE ABORTIONISTS WOULD ALREADY BE DEAD!!
You said it well, thank you.