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George Tiller (Child Murderer) shot to death at Wichita church
Wichita Eagle ^ | 05/30/2009 | Stan Finger

Posted on 05/31/2009 9:35:48 AM PDT by Kansas58

Kansas Abortionist George Tiller was shot today as he was going to Church.

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To: Jeffrey_D.

Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.


251 posted on 05/31/2009 10:23:37 AM PDT by Ladycalif (Free - Ramos and Compean)
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To: Kansas58

Prayers that he repented in his last moments.

Relief that he will never be able to murder another baby.

Horrified that he was murdered instead of it being handled the way it have been — through the courts, no matter how long it took.


252 posted on 05/31/2009 10:23:48 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Obama's not the anti-Christ, but is making the way for him as John the Baptist did for Jesus.)
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To: Jeffrey_D.

ELCA = Evangelical Church of America, very liberal arm of Lutheranism


253 posted on 05/31/2009 10:24:00 AM PDT by Jeffrey_D.
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To: cranked

I didn’t find it on the link provided.


254 posted on 05/31/2009 10:24:08 AM PDT by It's me
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To: KansasGirl

I was in Church (Central Christian) when one of the sheriffs went up to the pastor and told him.

Pastor gave a nice prayer, said someone denied him the opportunity for repentance.


255 posted on 05/31/2009 10:24:23 AM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: Kansas58

This will just be used to “justify” more gun control.


256 posted on 05/31/2009 10:24:25 AM PDT by MichiganConservative ($2 trillion in secret loans since late 2008. Audit the federal reserve. Support HR 1207.)
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To: AUH2O Repub
If it was a rightwinger it WAS an extremist

So an extremist is taken out by an extremist, so what's the problem?

257 posted on 05/31/2009 10:24:47 AM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: BenLurkin

Any society that would allow killing of viable babies has no problem with corrupting Christianity.


258 posted on 05/31/2009 10:24:58 AM PDT by PROTESTBYPROXY (Conservatives must man up!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Or maybe Tiller killed the wrong baby?

You never know.

However, even if the shooter turns out to be a person with a history in a major prolife organization (doubtful) I would STILL remind everyone:

The left does not apologize for;

William Ayers
Saul Alinsky
Jeremiah Wright
The Weather Underground
The Black Panthers
The Rev. Jessie Jackson
The Rev. Al Sharpton
The Unabomber

Do NOT tell me that none of these people were “vigilantes” who “committed murder” -—

Blood is on the hands of ALL of the above.

I do not defend this action, I do not support the shooting of George Tiller.

However, I understand it, I predicted it, and it is utterly logical as an outcome -— for a society that will not allow such monsters as Tiller to be restrained, BY THE LAW, to be dealt with outside the law, by the impatient or the unbalanced.

The difference between the left and the right, when it comes to the use of violence, is profound.

The Left has, through out history, killed, kidnapped, bombed and shot innocents who were only vaguely connected to the “White Establishment” or the “Military Industrial Complex” etc.

The left, of course, is protected by the MSM.

Still, we can STOP apologizing for the predictable and the inevitable, when someone on “our side” does something wrong!(I DO NOT CLAIM THE SHOOTER, but the left will lump him or her with me)

When has the left ever suffered from THEIR kooks?

When has the left ever apologized for violent behavior from the Left?

259 posted on 05/31/2009 10:24:59 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: EAGLE7

I am not celebrating. But I am enormously relieved that this evil man, who took over 60,000 lives of WOMEN and BABIES, will no longer practice his deadly trade.


260 posted on 05/31/2009 10:25:04 AM PDT by Palladin (Obama hates unborn babies.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Excellent post!

The FACT that this happened on the anniversary of Eric Rudolph’s arrest doesn’t help either.


261 posted on 05/31/2009 10:25:06 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: It's me

I’m stupid. Yes i did.


262 posted on 05/31/2009 10:25:14 AM PDT by It's me
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To: wardaddy
Did you cry when Dahmer got killed in the joint? Would you worry about Manson? nothing personal but ya’ll are soft as butter.

Here's the big difference: when Dahmer was killed, it was NOT BY ONE OF US.

263 posted on 05/31/2009 10:25:22 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: Kansas58

Just saw this on Fox News. Wow. This will not help the pro-life cause. In highschool, I remember saying the rosary outside abortion clinics. Sometimes we saw women turning away from going inside. Changing hearts is the key...not this barbarity.


264 posted on 05/31/2009 10:25:49 AM PDT by SMCC1
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To: prismsinc
On another note, we don’t know who did it. This man viewed his behavior as being above God’s laws, and he was flaunting it.

How do we know this isn’t something deeply personal? For all we know, it could have been the result of a secret affair.

Maybe we should wait until all the facts have come out on this.


Occam's Razor allows us to comment on the most likely. It may indeed be something else. But for now we have to go with the simplest explanation.

If he was murdered for "the cause", then the murderer has done the opposite of what they intended.
265 posted on 05/31/2009 10:26:19 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: The Sons of Liberty
>>>>>May he burn in hell for eternity.

George Tiller was a major player in America's Culture of Death. His actions ended the life cycle of thousands of potential human beings through the killing of innocent unborn children.

Tiller was a despicable creature, a human monster. While I will not celebrate his death, I will not mourn his death either. Tiller got what was coming to him.

266 posted on 05/31/2009 10:26:23 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: SolidWood
I don't think it hurts the movement. This movement is about one thing...the Supreme Court and right now we are getting hammered.

The media sees us as God fearing kooks anyhow as they go along celebrating baby killing.

The media except for Fox is a lost cause..why worry.

It will be fun to see Tiller's main antagonist OButthead gyrate and spin over this....he will catch major heat as the instigator

serpentine reckonings abound on this one.

let me be clear in case no one noticed....I feel nothing sad for the killing of this monster.... I could care less about what DU says about us

no remorse whatsoever that someone killed him...

anyone here does then ya’ll can live in yer conscience as you see fit and I'll live in mine.

my 51` years of serious life brought me here and I'm comfortable with it.

267 posted on 05/31/2009 10:26:27 AM PDT by wardaddy (Obama .....you are not my friend. You are an enemy of this nation and my culture and traditions)
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To: Kansas58

I’m going to get attacked for the following, but here goes:
1. I am not religious at all.
2. I do not think abortion is right(yes, I made my own mind up on this decision-—without spiritual guidance).
3. However, for those of you who are Christians, here is where I do not understand your position: Clearly, without a doubt, killing someone on the street is murder. But, if you really believe that abortion equates to the murder of unborn children, would you not do everything in your power to stop a person who performs abortions? If an unborn child in the womb equates to a child on the playground-—why wouldn’t you, with great haste, kill the person who performs abortions-—like you would a madman on the playground hacking kids with a machete?


268 posted on 05/31/2009 10:26:29 AM PDT by CHATTAB
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To: Kansas58

The person who did this is not pro-life, anti-abortion perhaps, but still pro-murder. The tide was turning in our favor, and some deranged lunatic had to give the media the spark they need to raze a decade of our successes in changing public opinion. This is not even a case of winning a battle but losing the war - it was just a total loss, with the creation of a new secular saint.

In a culture marked by disgust for profiling on the basis of thousands of data points, there is unfortunately a tendency to support profiling on the basis of a single or very small number of politically-correct data points (Christian leaders and outspoken conservative Republicans are sex-crazed homosexual child-molesting drug-addicts, 2A proponents are violent paranoid anti-Semitic serial-killers-in-training, pro-lifers like to bomb abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors, etc etc). Fewer will want to identify with a movement made out, by the media, to be intimately connected with shooting doctors or bombing clinics. This is a sad day for the life of one adult plus his family, AND a sad day for the thousands of additional unborn children murdered because thousands of minds will be turned by this demented act.


269 posted on 05/31/2009 10:26:38 AM PDT by M203M4 (A rainbow-excreting government-cheese-pie-eating unicorn in every pot.)
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To: mass55th
"He had the goods on Kathleen Sebelius, and that means she was blackmailable."

What were the blackmailable "goods"?

270 posted on 05/31/2009 10:27:03 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: wintertime
We are talking about ABORTION

There is no rule of law, on this subject, unfortunately.

Tiller was above the law.

I do not support murder, in any of its forms.

I do think that we could have, eventually, used Tiller as an example of the moral depravity of the proabortion movement and put Tiller in jail, with more hard work.

However, looking at the history of Tiller's corruption of our state, I can see clearly how others might think I am naive.

271 posted on 05/31/2009 10:27:18 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: wagglebee
this happened on the anniversary of Eric Rudolph’s arrest

Now I'm even more curious to this shooter.

What are the odds that he turns up dead somewhere?

272 posted on 05/31/2009 10:27:32 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Kansas58

He had so many enemies, political and otherwise, it’s hard to say who might have done this.


273 posted on 05/31/2009 10:27:36 AM PDT by Palladin (Obama hates unborn babies.)
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To: prismsinc

No matter how you cut it, the perpetrators and abettors of abortion are responsible for this.

The destruction of respect for, and defense of, innocent human life, is the destruction of the rule of law.

The inevitable destination for a nation that does not protect those who are made in God’s image is chaos.


274 posted on 05/31/2009 10:27:44 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (They tell you that conservatism "can't win" because they don't believe in it. Duh...)
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To: Carley

It’s abortion in the 272nd tri-mester (ROTFLMAO)


275 posted on 05/31/2009 10:27:52 AM PDT by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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To: PapaBear3625

So what.

Tiller gets whacked and folks sweat it affect a movement the media already loathes.

It won’t cause pro-lifers to leave the movement..no doubt.

Threads like this one remind me of others throught he past ten years where you really get to see the rubber hit the road.

Eye opener.


276 posted on 05/31/2009 10:28:29 AM PDT by wardaddy (Obama .....you are not my friend. You are an enemy of this nation and my culture and traditions)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Someone will “ suicided” and framed, as usual


277 posted on 05/31/2009 10:28:40 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Kansas58

“Abortionist...going to Church.”

Just more proof that some people treat Church as nothing but a social gathering.


278 posted on 05/31/2009 10:29:05 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: jennyjenny

YES!


279 posted on 05/31/2009 10:29:08 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: newfreep

“the goods on Sebelius”...I wonder if she will show up at his funeral?


280 posted on 05/31/2009 10:29:09 AM PDT by Palladin (Obama hates unborn babies.)
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To: cranked
Are you assuming this individual is indeed a rightwinger, thus inherently extremist? Hell, they have not even caught the suspect yet.
I didn't assume anything, did you catch the word "if" that I used several times? But yes, if he is a rightwinger he IS an extremist, inherently so since he just shot someone to death. Frankly, I was hoping it was a woman who he had committed infanticide on who couldn't deal with it anymore, but the description of the perp sure doesn't sound like it.
281 posted on 05/31/2009 10:29:09 AM PDT by AUH2O Repub
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To: wardaddy
Gun control for right wing groups (if that’s the shooter) might flare up....more survellience of pro-life groups that sort of thing...

Exactly so, they are already surveiling anti tax protestors. I know that for a fact because some clown in a suit with an earpiece took my picture. The left has fascist tendencies. And this will encourage them further with the help of an overheated MSM.

We know each other well enough over the years for you to know I am pro life no exceptions. It's my faith. But God told us not to murder. I don't spin those words. Tiller got what he well deserved I suppose but imo it will do harm to the pro life cause with young folks who are trending our way. You can't be pro life and murdering folks on the steps of their Church on Sunday no matter how despicable the folk are.

The bottom line is this, no babies will be saved because of Tiller's murder.

282 posted on 05/31/2009 10:29:30 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: CHATTAB

Might I add; A whole lot of us are fed up with our Congressmen ‘playing nice’.

Well, a whole lot of Freepers on this thread are just ‘playing nice’ so we don’t get wacked by the Leftists.

Not any different.


283 posted on 05/31/2009 10:29:35 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries for the American farmer.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

The problem is that whoever he is he will be portrayed as a “typical” pro-life gun owner.


284 posted on 05/31/2009 10:29:49 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: CHATTAB

I guess you would if you were a killer and didn’t mind the penalty that we as a society will demand.

I don’t see any shortage of so called Christians thinking this is a good thing,,it sickens me.

To support the cold blooded murder outside the law of any human being is just wrong.

The law will handle this killer.


285 posted on 05/31/2009 10:30:22 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cranked
“Are you assuming this individual is indeed a rightwinger, thus inherently extremist”

The description is of a man old enough to be a Grandfather, maybe Tiller denied him that title. He could just as well be a liberal Rat. Less likely a scenario, but time will tell.

286 posted on 05/31/2009 10:30:34 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: prismsinc
It’s abortion in the 272nd tri-mester (ROTFLMAO)

Post-extraction lead-induced termination.

287 posted on 05/31/2009 10:30:52 AM PDT by MichiganConservative ($2 trillion in secret loans since late 2008. Audit the federal reserve. Support HR 1207.)
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To: Kansas58
If rule of law deteriorates, we could see “disappearances” on all sides of the political spectrum.

But...Hey!...Maybe this is what Obama wants. Then he can declare martial law and impose his tyranny.

288 posted on 05/31/2009 10:30:57 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: CHATTAB

The law and fear of incarceration is what keeps most of us in check.

If I saw a man on the street kicking a preggers lady in the gut I would use all means including lethal to stop him.

If she and he in a docter’s office decide to kill the baby then the las says it’s ok with her consent.

Doesn’t change much except the motivation.

This is what makes abortion so heinous. Culture won’t protect their spawn, it ain’t worth saving.


289 posted on 05/31/2009 10:31:31 AM PDT by wardaddy (Obama .....you are not my friend. You are an enemy of this nation and my culture and traditions)
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To: reg45

I hope his sister can find peace in the fact that no more babies will die at her brother’s hand.


290 posted on 05/31/2009 10:31:35 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Arkinsaw

Human nature states we don’t murder for causes (unless we’re insane), we murder for selfish, personal reasons.

Abortion is the perfect example of this.


291 posted on 05/31/2009 10:31:46 AM PDT by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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To: SolidWood
Reichstag Fire.

Democrats wait for tragedy to enact weapon legislation

292 posted on 05/31/2009 10:31:47 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("If Dick Cheney is Darth Vader, then Barack Obama is Jar-Jar Binks!")
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To: CheneyChick

agreed. It is strange it happened right when the majority of Americans have been polled as pro life. That is not helpful in getting pro abortion measures through. Now many will not want to associate with a pro life group, assuming this maniac was a pro life vigilante. I will wait and see just who and why this murder was committed. Prayers for those who are suffering for this loss.


293 posted on 05/31/2009 10:31:56 AM PDT by wombtotomb
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To: doug from upland

Tiller was in my prayers briefly each day. It is sad that a church would not have helped this man to rethink his life’s work, but this is the way the devil works. I am very sorry for this whole situation, including the federal government’s endorsement of murder.


294 posted on 05/31/2009 10:32:05 AM PDT by Faith
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To: jazminerose
"Was it one of BO’s storm troopers who pulled the trigger?

Will have to wait & see if this is true."

"Calling Jack Ruby, Calling Jack Ruby"

295 posted on 05/31/2009 10:32:16 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Semper Fi)
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To: EternalVigilance

The shooter is responsible for this.


296 posted on 05/31/2009 10:32:26 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries for the American farmer.)
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To: Kansas58
but I do understand this.

I hope you understand what a horrible thing this is for everybody and what a massive setback this is for the pro life cause. I further hope you understand how your sympathetic comment starting the thread is highly regrettable.

297 posted on 05/31/2009 10:32:44 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
You Betcha!
298 posted on 05/31/2009 10:32:48 AM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Vince Ferrer

I agree with you. Well said.


299 posted on 05/31/2009 10:32:52 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: DAC21

I don’t care what the liberal media says about the right. That time passed a long time ago. It’s time for the right to stand up and stop being shrinking violets, and talking a good line but doing little.


300 posted on 05/31/2009 10:33:37 AM PDT by qwertypie
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