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George Tiller (Child Murderer) shot to death at Wichita church
Wichita Eagle ^ | 05/30/2009 | Stan Finger

Posted on 05/31/2009 9:35:48 AM PDT by Kansas58

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To: Palladin
It's repeated in several spots but this is from post #50:

“The suspect fled the scene and authorities are still investigating. His car is described as a powder blue or light blue Taurus with a K-State vanity plate, license number 225 BAB. He is described as a white male in his 50’s or 60’s, 6’1,” 220 lbs, wearing a white shirt and dark pants.”

501 posted on 05/31/2009 11:09:33 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Glenn
"Was I playing God? I had no idea."

You didn't know that damning someone to hell is God's prerogative until I told you?

502 posted on 05/31/2009 11:09:37 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Conservatism is about freedom, and fighting people who want to take it away." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: metmom
Democrats wait for tragedy to enact weapon legislation
Yes. I saw that thread. And this 'shooting tragedy' could likely be it. Tomorrow's news shows will be full of left wingers demanding new laws.
503 posted on 05/31/2009 11:10:07 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: definitelynotaliberal

We don’t know that it was someone connected with prolife that did this and if it were; they had to be a nutjob.


504 posted on 05/31/2009 11:10:19 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: CHATTAB

..yet you would allow the murder of those same children if they were a result of rape or incest. Quackery.


505 posted on 05/31/2009 11:10:26 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ([Advocate for] Mitt Romney[?], God help you, but you're on the wrong website ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: freekitty

As far as we know, but yes, agreed.


506 posted on 05/31/2009 11:10:27 AM PDT by cranked
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To: freeplancer

This is an open forum. You post, anyone who wishes may respond.


507 posted on 05/31/2009 11:11:11 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Kansas58

Awful lot of wink and a nod support here for a cold blooded murderer.

We’re better than this. Some of us, anyway.


508 posted on 05/31/2009 11:11:25 AM PDT by CGTRWK
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To: wardaddy

I agree. We have got to stop allowing the left to set the parameters by succumbing to their blackmail. And we have seen how just how far we will get “through the legal system”. The most pro-baby murder president ever has just been elected, and he is going to put pro-baby murder justices on the Supreme Court. The enemy will continue their push for baby murder, murder of the elderly, right on up to murder of “useless mouths” of any kind, while we continue to be held hostage by what they might say about us.


509 posted on 05/31/2009 11:11:32 AM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: Glenn
Can I lend you a band-aid to cover that hole in your bleeding heart?

No, looks to me like you've got a greater need, only over which orifice I'll leave you free to choose, seeing as there isn't any apparent difference in its outfall.

510 posted on 05/31/2009 11:11:46 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power with a passion for evil.)
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To: freeplancer; EternalVigilance; big'ol_freeper; Jeffrey_D.

I didn’t see him mention Mormons. Why did you?

This is a public forum. If you don’t like people responding to your posts, don’t post them.


511 posted on 05/31/2009 11:12:14 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: thecabal

Are you scolding me?

Where did I EVER applaud this action?

I said it was predictable, and that it was understandable, but I also said it was the wrong action to take.

When someone on the LEFT does something crazy, you do not see Lefty leaders apologizing for that action, do you?

I did not command, did not assist, did not authorize, did not endorse, did not encourage, did not conspire, and do not support the shooting of abortionists.

However, I DO know that when our government strips the people of the power to govern themselves ——

Violence is predictable and inevitable.


512 posted on 05/31/2009 11:12:19 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: big'ol_freeper

Once again, why aren’t you protecting the innocents from murder?


513 posted on 05/31/2009 11:12:22 AM PDT by CHATTAB
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To: cranked

This murder of Dr. Tiller is wrong.

Having said that, Dr. Tiller has met his Creator.


514 posted on 05/31/2009 11:12:33 AM PDT by Reagan69 (No Representation without Taxation !)
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To: metmom
I just did a quick drive by of DU. It took all of 5 posts before someone commented that we are celebrating here at FR. And less than that for them to smear the whole *right wing* movement as hypocrites. Time to go disinfect the computer....

You don't have to smell poop to know that it stinks.

515 posted on 05/31/2009 11:13:16 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: CHATTAB

I’m asking you that question.


516 posted on 05/31/2009 11:13:28 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ([Advocate for] Mitt Romney[?], God help you, but you're on the wrong website ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: topher
Does this mean the Democratic Party in Kansas must find a financial donor?

Will Obama attend the funeral? Hillary Clinton?

Will it be a "Who's who of the baby killing industry at the funeral" ?

517 posted on 05/31/2009 11:13:38 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: whatisthetruth; All
Lest we forget, this is what Tiller did for a living...60,000 times:


518 posted on 05/31/2009 11:14:04 AM PDT by Palladin (Obama hates unborn babies.)
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To: Condor51

I’m not sure how the left will respond to this killing. Yes, my first thought, too, is that this is a golden opportunity to demonize abortion clinic bombers and shooters—all three or four of them—just as they did with the OKC bomber a while ago with Janet Napolitano’s demonize-the-right memo.

On the other hand, the media have been virtually silent so far, and I don’t see it on Drudge, although it would seem to be big news.

Two possible reasons: they are waiting to see if the killer is a designated propaganda opportunity: male, white, Christian, maybe a veteran, and a pro-lifer. Or is it possibly some other kind of guy.

The second reason is that, although one should not speak ill about the dead, Tiller was a vile excuse for a human being. He was a cold-blooded killer, who frequently violated the law as well as the moral law. Do they really want to hold Tiller up as their new saint? He might not serve their purpose very well if people take a close look at him. Aside from his criminal acts and his virtual bribery of Governor Sebelius and others.


519 posted on 05/31/2009 11:14:14 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Kansas58

Holy cow!

I do not support this. He should have been prosecuted, not killed.


520 posted on 05/31/2009 11:14:17 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Condor51; metmom

The point is: They’ll never be able to sell this as a “tragedy”.

And, they won’t even (seriously) try.


521 posted on 05/31/2009 11:14:24 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: Carry_Okie
seeing as there isn't any apparent difference in its outfall.

That's right. Attack me and leave the murderer out of it. I'm sorry you can't find good reason to celebrate the killing of this animal and choose, instead, to pretend that taking the "high road" is the proper thing. I feel sorry for you.

522 posted on 05/31/2009 11:14:51 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: FreepShop1
I understand your feelings.

However, the system is broken, the system was bought and paid for by Tiller, the system was in Tiller's back pocket.

Tiller was the most powerful political figure in Kansas, a political boss, yet he never held office, himself.

Again, I do not support vigilante justice like this -— but it was predictable.

The people are losing confidence in their government.

523 posted on 05/31/2009 11:14:56 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Palladin
“Tiller’s murder is about as tragic as Hitler’s suicide.”

It took me a while to read through this thread and finally someone said it. (apologies if I missed it on another post)

My 2 cents. A person broke the law. He will be caught and punished, and he knew this when he set out this morning. I suspect he intended to surrender on the spot, but got scared. (He did not snipe from a hill or wear a disguise).

He decided that losing his freedom (or his life) to stop Tiller was a price he was willing to pay.

Tiller was the most vile and vicious abortionists that I have ever heard of, and I am unable to find any sympathy for him or those who loved him.

The problem here is that liberal bigots will paint pro-lifers with a broad brush and it will now essentially be illegal to hold pro-life views or own weapons.

They are quick to excuse the terrorist Muslims for their atrocities (saying it was the actions of America that drove them to it) and yet, they will send this guy to GITMO for water-boarding and execution (without the noting the real atrocities that Tiller has committed that drove this person to his act).

524 posted on 05/31/2009 11:14:58 AM PDT by Never on my watch (The people in charge now could not run a lemonade stand on a beach in Miami in the middle of July.)
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To: CGTRWK

Because someone like myself predicts how cynical Obama will come across in his comments on Tiller’s death does not mean I am gloating or taking delight over his untimely demise.

For one I wish his life had not been taken in this way; this sppears to be murder; there is no excuse.

Having said that, I am not blind to political reality and the evil nature of Obama.


525 posted on 05/31/2009 11:14:58 AM PDT by techno
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To: metmom
Yeah, the left are so sanctimonious.
526 posted on 05/31/2009 11:15:06 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (The plan... 0 in power for life. At least that's what they told him.)
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To: topher

It will be interesting to see who “honors” him by attending the funeral.


527 posted on 05/31/2009 11:15:08 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: reg45
His sister is a friend of mine. This is tragic.

Why?

The tragedy is our culture has fallen so far that an abortionist can perform abortions legally.

528 posted on 05/31/2009 11:15:26 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Kansas58
Some conservatives would scold Thomas Paine.

Conservatives would be better off heeding the words of Thomas Jefferson rather than Thomas Paine. The latter, besides being a drunk, had a history of not paying his debts.
Anyone holding Paine up as a paragon of 'conservative' principles is woefully in error.

529 posted on 05/31/2009 11:15:44 AM PDT by jla
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To: Kansas58

I see “the right” are attacking each other over this as usual, marching to the drumbeat of the PC crowd. Gotta wait for the facts.


530 posted on 05/31/2009 11:15:45 AM PDT by Baladas ((ABBHO))
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To: CHATTAB

More precisely I do not support the murder of innocent human beings ever, under no circumstances, while you allow for the killing of innocent human beings if they were the result of a rape or incest.

Why do you support the murder of innocent human beings?


531 posted on 05/31/2009 11:15:47 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ([Advocate for] Mitt Romney[?], God help you, but you're on the wrong website ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: big'ol_freeper

I do not share the same views as you. I am not religious. However, I do not think abortion is necessarily right, and, I can see instances where it may be warranted. I don’t view the world as a black and white place.


532 posted on 05/31/2009 11:16:04 AM PDT by CHATTAB
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To: Waco

“What if it turns out a RAT shot him?”

would not surprise me in the least...


533 posted on 05/31/2009 11:16:10 AM PDT by castlebrew (Gun control means hitting where you're aiming!)
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To: metmom
I just did a quick drive by of DU. It took all of 5 posts before someone commented that we are celebrating here at FR. And less than that for them to smear the whole *right wing* movement as hypocrites.

Shocked!

Look on the bright side - maybe Keith Olbermann will name us "The Worst Person In The World."

534 posted on 05/31/2009 11:16:52 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("If Dick Cheney is Darth Vader, then Barack Obama is Jar-Jar Binks!")
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To: Lazamataz

So we are to hold off on the gunfire until anarchy prevails?

When do you think that will happen?


535 posted on 05/31/2009 11:17:07 AM PDT by JRochelle ("I wasn't briefed about the briefing, I was only informed." SanFranNan.)
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To: SeattleBruce
This guy Tiller was a bad guy. Just like the individual who molests children. For example, remember the karate instructor who molested the defenseless boy and got caught. When the authorities escorted this individual through the airport with handcuffs, the father of this boy acted like he was talking on the pay phone. When the molestor and his escort passed by the phone booth, he was greeted with a bullet to the head by the father of the boy. When all was said and done, the father was NOT charged with murder, but with justifiable homicide. I see a similarity here. No sympathy needed for this guy Tiller, please.
536 posted on 05/31/2009 11:17:21 AM PDT by Alaska007
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To: Cicero
"...his virtual bribery of Governor Sebelius and others."

More info on that statement?

537 posted on 05/31/2009 11:17:47 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Glenn
May he rot in hell alongside the mothers who aided him in his “business”.

Since your remark is not flying well with some on this thread maybe they'd prefer, "May Tiller the baby killer stand alongside Jesus in Heaven now and forever, Amen."</sarcasm>

538 posted on 05/31/2009 11:17:48 AM PDT by BufordP ("I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market ..." --Jorge "the Abandoner" Bush)
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To: freeplancer
Hate to jump into your hissy fit but you can not slander a screen name since they are anonymous to all but a few
539 posted on 05/31/2009 11:17:55 AM PDT by Popman (Joe Biden REALLY can't be Vice President, can he ?)
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To: CHATTAB

Well at least try to be consistent.


540 posted on 05/31/2009 11:17:55 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ([Advocate for] Mitt Romney[?], God help you, but you're on the wrong website ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: CHATTAB
But, if you really believe that abortion equates to the murder of unborn children, would you not do everything in your power to stop a person who performs abortions

This is exactly where the abortion reasoning will take the pro-lifer if they're at all honest, if they really believed that it was murder, then why don't they act like it?

So when an individual acts like it was murder, the pro-life movement goes through palpitations.

I thought the Bible was explicit when it says there is no greater love than of a man who lays down his life for another, well this guy appears to have done exactly that.

541 posted on 05/31/2009 11:18:48 AM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: Kansas58

Not good.

I think this is going to spark more violence.


542 posted on 05/31/2009 11:18:55 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Never on my watch

Good analysis.


543 posted on 05/31/2009 11:18:56 AM PDT by Palladin (Obama hates unborn babies.)
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To: metmom

I will never apologise to the left or any pro-baby murder person, when they make their murderers university professors.


544 posted on 05/31/2009 11:19:17 AM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Obviously, I don’t really care. But you have made it quite clear that you do care... So once again, I ask you: If someone is murdering babies by performing abortions, why aren’t you out stopping them?


545 posted on 05/31/2009 11:19:28 AM PDT by CHATTAB
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To: Alaska007

I remember that. It was caught in tape


546 posted on 05/31/2009 11:19:29 AM PDT by Ladycalif (Free - Ramos and Compean)
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To: newfreep

If you’ll look at the Sibelius confirmation threads, you’ll see that he was a truly huge donor to her campaigns. In fact, the issue of the depth of their connection hasn’t been settled yet, to my knowledge.


547 posted on 05/31/2009 11:19:51 AM PDT by livius
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To: Taking Congress back in 2010

Why? They seem to be getting their way.


548 posted on 05/31/2009 11:20:32 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules ("We live in an amazing, amazing world, and it's wasted on the crappiest generation of spoiled idiots)
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To: CHATTAB

I do not support murder period.

Abortion is murder, as is gunning someone down.


549 posted on 05/31/2009 11:20:50 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ([Advocate for] Mitt Romney[?], God help you, but you're on the wrong website ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: thecabal

I think people should be able to express their opinions, but yes, I hope people excercise restraint.

This cannot be a good thing for the pro-Life movement.


550 posted on 05/31/2009 11:21:02 AM PDT by Lorianne
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