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Report: George Tiller Shot To Death [Child Murderer Killed At Wichita Church]
KMBC ^ | May 31, 2009

Posted on 05/31/2009 10:08:54 AM PDT by upchuck

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To: patriot preacher
You guys celebrating this may just be celebrating the loss of your own freedoms. Don't be fools. This isn't good nor is it right.

My, my, that idea just scares me to death. I guess I should be a damned hypocrite and say that I'm sorry someone offed the lousey ration of skunksqueeze.

Not in this life.

51 posted on 05/31/2009 10:30:26 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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What a hypocite that doctor was to even attend a Christian Church.

I have a feeling his office may be closed tomorrow morn. And that's a good thing.

But this is a lose/lose situation. It was not right for anyone to have killed anyone.

52 posted on 05/31/2009 10:30:30 AM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

...quick somebody nudge IMissPresidentReagan...she’s got the hiccups....


53 posted on 05/31/2009 10:30:32 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Gay State Conservative

What galls me most is the article. The article describes this guy as a “late term abortion provider.”

Why not label the doctor what he was, a partial birth abortion provider? The man committed infanticide, legally.

And, yes, I agree with you, this will have a bad ending for us abortion opponents.

Due to the innocuous euphemism used to describe what this doctor engaged in, there will be no sympathy for abortion foes.

My mom is a “right to choose” person. Yet, even she thinks partial birth abortion is an atrocity. Most people agree that partial birth abortion is infanticide.

Instead, the press will portray this doctor as a paragon of community spirit, family values and work ethic.

The spin already started with this article.


54 posted on 05/31/2009 10:31:35 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Senators and Representatives : They govern like Calvin Ball is played, making it up as they go along)
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To: upchuck

Would we have mourned at the murder of those who ran Auschwitz ?

Nor do I here. But I will say a prayer for his departed soul that perhaps, somehow, he may find rest.


55 posted on 05/31/2009 10:31:39 AM PDT by lucias_clay (Its times like this I'm glad I'm a whig.)
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To: patriot preacher
Hmmm. The shooter no doubt committed murder by our laws.

Whether he will be judged as a murderer by God may be an open question, and none of us know the answer.

In 1942 Reinhard Heydrich was killed in Prague in cold blood. Czech commandos committed what was by the law of the land murder. They were from a country that had surrendered and they were not in uniform. They did this because he was orchestrating the destruction of the Czech people. Did they kill a tyrant or commit murder or both? There is also the case of course of John Brown and slavery.

Yes we must obey our laws, until we can no longer live with the result of not obeying them.

56 posted on 05/31/2009 10:31:40 AM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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To: Huskrrrr
This will not change hearts.

It sure changed his.

57 posted on 05/31/2009 10:35:09 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Gaffer
You, also, are entitled to your opinion. Equivocators and appeasers have something to say, too....Pardon me if it falls on deaf ears.

Apart from the many children that will now not be killed by *him* (which is obviously a *good* thing) tell me how his martyrdom (and you can be sure that that's the word the abortion lovers will use) will *help* the pro life cause.

I could give you a dozen major reasons why it will *hurt* the cause...overall...particularly with a Maoist like Hussein in the WH and RATS like Bella Pelosi in charge of Congress.

58 posted on 05/31/2009 10:35:56 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: SampleMan

A most excellent post.


59 posted on 05/31/2009 10:36:32 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I doubt there will be a lot of Doctors lining up to take over his practice.

You do? I expect they're already receiving calls from prospective "investors".

60 posted on 05/31/2009 10:36:42 AM PDT by theDentist (qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: SnakeDoctor
Thou Shalt Not Murder. Both the shooter and the victim will be judged.

Too bad God doesn't grade on a curve.

61 posted on 05/31/2009 10:37:18 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: BallyBill

Screw O’Reilly ans anybody who worries about O’Reilly.


62 posted on 05/31/2009 10:37:18 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: upchuck

I hope everyone here is intelligent enough not to openly celebrate this murder. For all we know, he might have cut the guy off on traffic, or been his ex-brother-in-law, nobody knows yet. But whatever, that was a sick SOB to shoot a man as he walked into church.

Innocent people, maybe kids, had to watch that. And on top of that, if a man is walking owards a church, theres always hope God is about to speak to his heart that day.
Not cool on church steps. Not in the least.


63 posted on 05/31/2009 10:37:50 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Eaker; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; ApesForEvolution; archy; backhoe; Badray; t_skoz; Becki; Jack Black; ...

The act is reminiscent of “Unintended Consequences.” Or perhaps, following up on some other Freepers comments above it is a false flag act, more similar to the one at the start of Travi’s first book “Enemies Foreign and Domestic”. We shall have to let things play out for a while before we have enough context to say more.


64 posted on 05/31/2009 10:38:20 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: upchuck; Admin Moderator; All

This thread, and the other one, are disgraceful, and are an embarrassment to the conservative movement.


65 posted on 05/31/2009 10:40:10 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: DesertRhino
But he was 3 minutes late for the 10:00 service.
66 posted on 05/31/2009 10:40:31 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: cajungirl
Do you think that it would have been murder to assignate Hitler? And don't say that the question has no relevance -- this crud was a leading the killer-of-innocents criminal thugs that has already killed throughout the world far more innocents that Hitler, Stalin and Mao combined.

His killer did a great service when noone else would do it.

67 posted on 05/31/2009 10:40:31 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Nope, no leniency for shoooting *anyone* as they walk into church.


68 posted on 05/31/2009 10:40:34 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: patriot preacher

Ding ding ding. First smart post in this thread.


69 posted on 05/31/2009 10:41:44 AM PDT by ketsu (It’s not a campaign. It’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: cajungirl

PS: As they say down here in Georgia — “There are some folks that neeed killing.” He was one of them.


70 posted on 05/31/2009 10:41:55 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: theDentist

I doubt it. Most doctors, even abortionists, won’t do late term abortions. Tiller was one of a few that would.


71 posted on 05/31/2009 10:42:08 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Asking for Murder Pictures, Images and Photos
72 posted on 05/31/2009 10:42:20 AM PDT by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

There will be more abortions because of this. For the first time, a majority were describing themselves as “pro-life. “ That won’t happen again, and it will be harder to make the pro-life case.


73 posted on 05/31/2009 10:42:34 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: DesertRhino

I would think Tiller would burst into flame for walking on consecrated ground like the Vampire he was.


74 posted on 05/31/2009 10:43:39 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: ansel12; Gay State Conservative
As much as I detested this man in life, his murder is a tragic blow for our movement.

Ideally, he would have had a CONVERSION and realize the horrors he's authored. Now, he'll simply be a martyr for the abortuary industry, bathed in the gentle light the MSM will produce, while we're painted as monsters.

75 posted on 05/31/2009 10:43:52 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: SnakeDoctor
I'll side with you on this.

They will both be harshly judged, all in their due time.

76 posted on 05/31/2009 10:44:08 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Markets and Marxists Don't Mix! Smile you're on Janet's Candid Camera!)
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To: gusopol3
Disagree.

The civil rights movement was going nowhere (legislatively) until cities started burning.

77 posted on 05/31/2009 10:44:26 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: upchuck

Well, at least the perp didn’t rip his arms and legs off and then suck his brains out.


78 posted on 05/31/2009 10:44:36 AM PDT by calico_thompson
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To: Gay State Conservative

You make the mistake of thinking that the abortion debate is won or lost in the judical and political end of the spectrum. As important as theose two arena’s are, that isn’t where they are won at all.

This is won or lost in the hearts and minds of ordinary people, and in that arena, the Leftists have already lost.

There may be a little setback in politics, but it can’t last long, as the tide is running strongly against the abortionists.


79 posted on 05/31/2009 10:44:47 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries for the American farmer.)
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To: Gaffer
You, also, are entitled to your opinion. Equivocators and appeasers have something to say, too....Pardon me if it falls on deaf ears.
Live by the long knife, die in a night of long knives. The whole point of America is that you have a democratic process that precludes the need for this kind political violence.

Your deaf ears will kill *you* in the end. You'll be lucky if you get off with the Swat team just shooting your dog.

80 posted on 05/31/2009 10:46:30 AM PDT by ketsu (It’s not a campaign. It’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: Cedric

Not the way I remember that either.


81 posted on 05/31/2009 10:46:48 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: MichiganConservative

Exactly, its a leftist dream. ABORTION doctor shot and killed by a GUN, as he walked into CHURCH.

They will make his death a rally against people who oppose Abortion.
They will use it to justify gun control.
And dont forget,, the guy will be a “domestic terrorist”.

This is the worst setback for our side since that murderous assassin Rudolph. Not to mention, its not a tactic Jesus our lord ever used.


82 posted on 05/31/2009 10:47:01 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: upchuck

No tears for baby killers.


83 posted on 05/31/2009 10:47:39 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Those that have nothing to hide welcome debate.)
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To: patriot preacher

“Pro-lifers should condemn this as antithetical to their philosophy and beliefs.”

They DO....


84 posted on 05/31/2009 10:47:54 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: upchuck

Maybe “a PO potential grandfather avenging the death of a grandchild.”


85 posted on 05/31/2009 10:48:35 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

Doesn’t discredit anything. I don’t think it is the best way but in a just world such men would find themselves executed under the law.


86 posted on 05/31/2009 10:49:09 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Those that have nothing to hide welcome debate.)
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To: Jack Black

Agreed. Finding the killer is the next thing. Hopefully, he’s not dead on the side of the road right about now.


87 posted on 05/31/2009 10:49:21 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Gay State Conservative

It is simply wrong to ambush and kill another human being. You have a good point. It will be used by those invested in our national killing factories to marginalize pro-life. What this person did was very selfish—he/she may have enjoyed self-gratification for an instant but does not help the cause of life whatsoever.


88 posted on 05/31/2009 10:49:22 AM PDT by BamaAndy (Heart & Iron; ISBN 1-4137-5397-3.)
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To: BILLNHILL MAKE ME ILL

You need to use the clinical term postpartum abortion.
Using the clinical term helps remove any moral component that exists.
Science Rules!


89 posted on 05/31/2009 10:50:28 AM PDT by dmcnash (y)
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To: DesertRhino
This is the worst setback for our side since that murderous assassin Rudolph.

It was since (and one, therefore, could argue, in part, because of) Rudolph, America has swung to majority pro-life for the first time in 15 years.

90 posted on 05/31/2009 10:51:10 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

“Murder is wrong, period, regardless of who commits it.”

True, however killing to prevent a serial killer from claiming his next victim probably doesn’t fit into the category of murder...


91 posted on 05/31/2009 10:51:22 AM PDT by babygene
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To: gridlock

“I would not even put it past them to commit this murder themselves, as an excuse to sieze power. Reichstag Fire, and all that...”

I agree that he would do it, but i think he’s cunning enough to sit and wait for some nut to do something, then immediately capitalize on it. I think its more likely that they had already brainstormed how they respond to things like this.

Look for term “domestic or homegrown terror”, look for this theme right as he goes to the Middle east for his speech. He might even showcase it as an example terror is just as common in christianity.


92 posted on 05/31/2009 10:52:20 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: EveningStar
This thread, and the other one, are disgraceful, and are an embarrassment to the conservative movement.

BOO-cotton-pickin' -HOO.

93 posted on 05/31/2009 10:53:01 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Gaffer

And you are entitled to be a posturing idiot, since I doubt that you have ever taken any action along these lines your self.


94 posted on 05/31/2009 10:53:20 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: upchuck

Nothing to see here just his last abortion this one many trimesters Post Birth.


95 posted on 05/31/2009 10:53:57 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: ketsu
In other words, you all think it's smart to tremble at what the baby-killers will think?

Sorry, I can't buy that.

96 posted on 05/31/2009 10:56:20 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: babygene
True, however killing to prevent a serial killer from claiming his next victim probably doesn’t fit into the category of murder...
Engaging in extra-judicial killing of people who are engaged in legally sanctioned killing(whether abortion or executing criminals) is a slippery slope you don't want to go down.

Imagine if liberals started killing prison guards/chaplains etc... that were involved in executions.

There's a reason we're a nation of laws and not men. Excusing the killer in this case is fundamentally anti-american. If you want to get rid of abortion, do it in the courts and in the realm of public opinion. Otherwise you just push America one step closer to totalitarianism. I'm sure the feds already monitor FR. How much do you want to bet that somebody in this thread gets a knock on the door?

97 posted on 05/31/2009 10:57:06 AM PDT by ketsu (It’s not a campaign. It’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: Sloth
Until I hear differently, I’m going with a gay lovers’ spat.

You'll probably be more accurate than the initial description given on the DC sniper-- an angry white guy in white van.

98 posted on 05/31/2009 10:58:04 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Gaffer

Jesus had something to say about “casting the first stone”. And though he was without sin,,he didnt decide to throw one. And yes, a bullet counts as a stone.

Just saying.


99 posted on 05/31/2009 10:58:55 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: upchuck

I am talking about the thread that has over 300 replies on it already and is only 9 threads down from this one. Sheesh


100 posted on 05/31/2009 10:59:03 AM PDT by freeplancer
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