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Meet Tiller pal Dr. Hern, now "the only doctor in the world" who performs very late-term abortions
Hern website and other sources ^ | 5-31-09 | dfu

Posted on 05/31/2009 5:48:54 PM PDT by doug from upland

FROM L.A. SLIMES: But Warren Hern, a Colorado physician and close friend of Tiller's who said he is now "the only doctor in the world" who performs very late-term abortions, said Tiller's death was predictable.

Dr. Warren Hern's website

From this article:

Did I Violate the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban? (warning: contains graphic description)

The following is an except from an article in Slate by Dr. Warren Hern, M.D.

Earlier this year, I began an abortion on a young woman who was 17 weeks pregnant. Because of the two days of prior treatment, the amniotic membranes were visible and bulging. I ruptured the membranes and released the fluid to reduce the risk of amniotic fluid embolism. Then I inserted my forceps into the uterus and applied them to the head of the fetus, which was still alive, since fetal injection is not done at that stage of pregnancy. I closed the forceps, crushing the skull of the fetus, and withdrew the forceps. The fetus, now dead, slid out more or less intact. With the next pass of the forceps, I grasped the placenta, and it came out in one piece. Within a few seconds, I had completed my routine exploration of the uterus and sharp curettage. The blood loss would just fill a tablespoon. The patient, who was awake, hardly felt the operation. She was relieved, grateful, and safe. She wants to have children in the future.

Did I do a "partial-birth" abortion? Will John Ashcroft prosecute me? Stay tuned.



TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionists; baby; hern; massmurderer; murderer; serialkiller; tiller; warrenhern

1 posted on 05/31/2009 5:48:55 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

Claiming your the only one in the world sure paints a target on his back.....


2 posted on 05/31/2009 5:51:13 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Hey hey! Ho ho! Where's your Birth Certificate/ We've a right to know!)
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To: doug from upland

Murdering abortionists is the moral equivalent of murdering Theo van Gogh.

Different religion, same violence.


3 posted on 05/31/2009 5:52:49 PM PDT by mike-zed
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To: doug from upland

4 posted on 05/31/2009 5:55:31 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: doug from upland

Lovely story there - the quack’s moral rationalizations are enough to make one’s head spin. Yeah, some “hero”.


5 posted on 05/31/2009 5:56:39 PM PDT by Baladas ((ABBHO))
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To: mike-zed

Theo van Gogh killed babies?


6 posted on 05/31/2009 5:57:13 PM PDT by new cruelty (Shoot your TV. Torch your newspaper.)
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To: mike-zed

Big difference,Theo van gogh didnt murder unborn children,Dumbass.


7 posted on 05/31/2009 5:59:24 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: doug from upland
She was relieved, grateful, and safe. She wants to have children in the future.

And what percentage of women who have undergone an abortion ever DO have children in the future???

What percentage of women who have undergone an abortion end up committing suicide or develop otherwise serious mental illnesses?

Tell us Mr. Hern... what do you know about this woman today?
Are you familiar with how she is doing?
Follow up with her any?
Is she a repeat customer because you did such a good job the first time???

May God protect you from the likes of Mr. Tiller's assailant... because I'd much rather see what God has in store for you.
8 posted on 05/31/2009 5:59:26 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns

I’m having a hard time generating any sympathy for Dr. Tiller.

You do despicable tings it should come as no surprise that someone else who has taken objection to is decides that your death is the only way to end it.


9 posted on 05/31/2009 6:04:38 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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To: doug from upland

One word...”ADOPTION!!!!!”


10 posted on 05/31/2009 6:09:51 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: mike-zed

Murdering someone cause you don’t like his films and murdering someone to stop him from taking innocent life people is not quite the same thing. Good try, though.


11 posted on 05/31/2009 6:13:11 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Ouderkirk

>>> I’m having a hard time generating any sympathy for Dr. Tiller.

He has all he needs from the pro-abortionists.


12 posted on 05/31/2009 6:14:08 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: doug from upland

What a singular claim to have. What a low-life.


13 posted on 05/31/2009 6:15:15 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ([Advocate for] Mitt Romney[?], God help you, but you're on the wrong website ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: doug from upland

Tiller repeatedly did this. Evil evil man.


14 posted on 05/31/2009 6:20:44 PM PDT by Mercat (The Constitution is not a suicide pact.)
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To: new cruelty

I guess he painted them to death.


15 posted on 05/31/2009 6:21:46 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Think HollywoodÂ’s hit rock bottom? You forget how well they dig. (bighollywood.breitbart.com)
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To: Ouderkirk
I was told today that Dr. Tiller had been gunned down. At the time I was immersed in reading. I simply shrugged my shoulders and proceeded to keep reading. Quite frankly it was a challenge to conjure up a damn from the deepest reaches of my mind in order to bestow upon her. Just knowing what that man did everyday, it doesn't generate much sympathy, and I am not even remotely religious.
16 posted on 05/31/2009 6:23:48 PM PDT by Xenophon450
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To: Mercat

O’Reilly has uncovered a list of monies that Dr. Tiller gave to Obama’s new Health and Human Services Secretary, Kathleen Sebelius in donations, making this a most reprehensible political relationship, destroying human life for money. And Kathleen Sebelius is the best the Obama administration can do for Secretary of HHS?

http://www.thedailychange.com/late-term-abortionist-dr-george-tiller-shot-dead-at-church/


17 posted on 05/31/2009 6:23:53 PM PDT by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: doug from upland

Beyond despicable...


18 posted on 05/31/2009 6:23:57 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: mike-zed
Killing babies and making films is morally equivalent?

I hadn't thought of that but it would explain why so much of Hollywood is liberal wouldn't it?

19 posted on 05/31/2009 6:25:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: SaraJohnson

Would you pull the trigger? Or are you just a cheerleader?

I’m anti-abortion. I just don’t know if I would ever be able to take a life in any manner.


20 posted on 05/31/2009 6:27:50 PM PDT by listenhillary (90% of our problems could be resolved with a government 10% of the size it is now.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Blasphemy is a far, far, far more clearly delineated capital offense in Islam than is abortion is Christian theology.

Those who rejoice in the murder of abortionists are the same as those dancing in the streets of Gaza after the 9-11 attacks.

I’m sorry if it offends your righteousness or arrogance.

(ok, I’m not sorry)


21 posted on 05/31/2009 6:28:24 PM PDT by mike-zed
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To: TheDailyChange

I’m in an office of liberals with one exception. I’m sure that tomorrow I’ll be challenged about this and my response is this, “Dr. Tiller repeatedly over many years stabbed a viable infant in the skull with a sharp instrument and collapsed its skull.” Its the only answer to be made to any question or confrontation.


22 posted on 05/31/2009 6:29:37 PM PDT by Mercat (The Constitution is not a suicide pact.)
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To: mike-zed

Doesn’t offend me at all. Murder is unacceptable.


23 posted on 05/31/2009 6:30:52 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ([Advocate for] Mitt Romney[?], God help you, but you're on the wrong website ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Safrguns

DEATH: According to the best record based study of deaths following pregnancy and abortion, a 1997 government funded study in Finland, women who abort are approximately four times more likely to die in the following year than women who carry their pregnancies to term. In addition, women who carry to term are only half as likely to die as women who were not pregnant.(16) (Click here for more details on this important study.)

The Finland researchers found that compared to women who carried to term, women who aborted in the year prior to their deaths were 60 percent more likely to die of natural causes, seven times more likely to die of suicide, four times more likely to die of injuries related to accidents, and 14 times more likely to die from homicide. Researchers believe the higher rate of deaths related to accidents and homicide may be linked to higher rates of suicidal or risk-taking behavior.(16) (Click here for details on the latest research regarding abortion associated deaths.)

The leading causes of abortion related maternal deaths within a week of the surgery are hemorrhage, infection, embolism, anesthesia, and undiagnosed ectopic pregnancies. Legal abortion is reported as the fifth leading cause of maternal death in the United States, though in fact it is recognized that most abortion related deaths are not officially reported as such.

http://www.afterabortion.org/physica.html

Long article very detailed and lots of evidence to back it up..


24 posted on 05/31/2009 6:31:11 PM PDT by GSP.FAN
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To: GSP.FAN

Thanks


25 posted on 05/31/2009 6:40:08 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: doug from upland
This is like announcing that the top Hamas leader has been killed, then announcing his replacement. Sometimes it's just not good to be #1.
26 posted on 05/31/2009 6:40:43 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Safrguns

You are welcome..
We have a child of 7 months,when my wife was pregnant i read every book i could get my hands on..
I was shocked when reading that a lot of complications of birth are caused by earlier abortions due to the damage done to the womb.
But no one talks about thay..


27 posted on 05/31/2009 6:52:02 PM PDT by GSP.FAN
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To: doug from upland

“I inserted my forceps into the uterus and applied them to the head of the fetus, which was still alive, “

Still alive. I read this on another post, and now am haunted by this.


28 posted on 05/31/2009 7:06:12 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: wagglebee
ping
ALMIGHTY God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who desireth not the death of a sinner, but rather that he may turn from his wickedness and live ... [1928 BCP]
...please turn this man's heart. Amen.
29 posted on 05/31/2009 7:08:34 PM PDT by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5(SONY)|"Also sprach Telethustra"-NonValueAdded|Lk21:36)
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To: doug from upland

I did a little googling earlier and there are clinics supposedly in IIllinois that advertise 3rd term abortion so I’m not so sure he is the only one?


30 posted on 05/31/2009 7:27:01 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: doug from upland
Hippocratic Oath (in part):

...I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion...

Karma for serial, flagrant oath-breakers is *such* a beotch.

32 posted on 05/31/2009 7:52:17 PM PDT by Costumed Vigilante
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To: mike-zed
Would you feel it murder if someone were to kill the person who bragged of slaughtering 60,000 toddlers? teenagers? adults?

As an interesting twist for your thought processes, nearly every state which permits the use of lethal force in self-defense also permits the use of lethal force in the intervention of the act of a third party against a second party who is in imminent danger of being killed or dealt serious bodily harm by the third party.

None are more helpless than the victims of these 'procedures'.

I do not rejoice in any murder-- But was it murder or the defense of helpless innocents? One could make either case, depending on circumstances.

As for this abortionist's death, I know the servants of human sacrifice will use it to further their agenda somehow, and I make a practice of not rejoicing at things which further the cause of mass murder. YMMV

33 posted on 05/31/2009 7:59:51 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: mike-zed
Murdering abortionists is the moral equivalent of murdering Theo van Gogh.

Not really. Killing 350,000 fully-formed babies is certainly worse than criticizing Islam.

34 posted on 05/31/2009 8:01:38 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: doug from upland
Meet Tiller pal Dr. Hern, now "the only doctor in the world" who performs very late-term abortions

Hern using Tiller's murder as a source of free advertising.

35 posted on 06/01/2009 7:40:43 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

“very late-term abortions”...

what... couldn’t decide in the previous 8 months?

besides, maybe Tiller was just the subject of a “very very late-term abortion”.

What was he, 62?
Add one for the pregnancy, one for the 0th year of life, and you get a “192nd trimester abortion”.


36 posted on 06/01/2009 7:43:51 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: doug from upland

I hope he’s got his life insurance policy up-to-date.


37 posted on 06/01/2009 7:44:41 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Mercat
perhaps you could say, "If you think that a man who crushes babies' skulls for money is a hero, and someone who kills a man who crushes babies' skulls for money is evil incarnate, your moral compass is pointing true South"

or

"Dr. Tiller knew his killer and knew why he was being assaulted, which is more than the 1000's of babies he's slain had"

or

"President Obama boted against the BAIPA several times; by his logic, somebody who accidentally survives an attempted murder should be denied treatment and allowed to die"

Just ssayin'

38 posted on 06/02/2009 7:14:51 PM PDT by bt_dooftlook (John Adams: Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate)
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To: bt_dooftlook

boted = voted ;)


39 posted on 06/02/2009 7:27:08 PM PDT by bt_dooftlook (John Adams: Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate)
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