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To: TrailofTears

The person that killed Tiller handed the pro-abortion movement 10 YEARS OF PROPAGANDA to use against the pro-lifers.

Over the long run, more babies will die because of this murder than were saved by it. Many more.

Shooting people in a chruch isn’t how you win the abortion fight, that is how you LOSE it.

I can’t believe people think this helps the pro-life movement in any way, shape, or form. It doesn’t.


27 posted on 06/01/2009 8:25:01 AM PDT by Brookhaven (The Era of Reagan is NOW)
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To: Brookhaven

The good news is that a recent poll says that there is a new majority of Americans who now say they are pro-life. This recent murder, bad as it is, WILL NOT CHANGE THINGS.


44 posted on 06/01/2009 10:58:17 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Live Long And Prosper!"-Mr. Spock:)=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Brookhaven

Im wondering from your post under what kind of scenario you are imagining that we are going to win this struggle. It is obvious that we have lost and lost massively.

As long as pro-life people don’t face reality and realize that we have had our heads handed to us then we will continue to count the weekly abortion numbers as if they are reality and when they seem to dip a couple we will jump up and down thinking we are winning.

Take a breath and get a reality check. The abortion numbers are gathered yearly through self reporting. Does that not sound like a scenario frought with corruption? The abortionists self report so they can pay taxes on their profits, and abortion is a “cash” business. So when you hear the National Right to Life and others talk about victory on the horizon and how abortion is becoming more rare you are being decieved.

They have willingly dilluded themselves into thinking that those abortion stats are reality. When in fact we have found that there are many times more abortions being done than are being reported, and there are many more abortionists than what we imagine, only they keep under the radar of most pro-life groups because it is only a part of their medical practice.

We pro-lifers have no clue as to what the reality out here is. We are completely off base on what is happening in the real world. We lost this battle already, and every dead baby is proof of that loss. So we judge someone who tries to stop a mad-man from killing more babies and not because it immediately sent that man to hell, but because it “messed up” our feeling of how we are going to win this battle.\

Did you sleep through this last election cycle? We lost by millions of votes. The nation voted in a man who is one hundred percent pro-abortion. No reservations no limits, even to the point that a baby born alive after an attempted abortion should be killed. How does that fit in your plan that we are going to win this battle and that the guy which shot tiller messed up that victory?

The guy that killed tiller stopped that monster from killing another baby, and that is good enough for me. The movement be damned. Nothing the movement has done for the last forty years has made a whip of a difference, and we need to face that fact. This country has become a pro-abortion country and exports that belief to the world around us, including paying for many of the third world’s abortions.

Don’t pontificate on this guy who decided tomorrow’s planned deaths weren’t going to happen. I am glad the murderer found his end. He lived by the act of taking innocent lives and i am glad that his NON INNOCENT life is now gone. At least we can say one thing about the incident, no more babies died in his clinic that day.


54 posted on 06/02/2009 7:55:27 AM PDT by TrailofTears (."We mock loyalty and are shocked at finding traitors in our midst." CS Lewis)
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