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Alleged George Tiller Shooter Scott Roeder May Have Suffered From Mental Illness
Life News ^ | 6/1/09 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 06/01/2009 1:17:54 PM PDT by wagglebee

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Unfortunately the left will portray him as a "typical" pro-life advocate.
1 posted on 06/01/2009 1:17:54 PM PDT by wagglebee
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Pro-Life Ping


2 posted on 06/01/2009 1:18:17 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Not guilty by reason of insanity, is that what these guys are leading up to?


3 posted on 06/01/2009 1:19:56 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: wagglebee

If this line of inquiry keeps up then the story will become “How did a mentally ill man get a gun?”


4 posted on 06/01/2009 1:21:17 PM PDT by Borges
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To: pray4liberty

Being mentally ill DOES NOT mean a person is legally insane.


5 posted on 06/01/2009 1:21:39 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Scott Roeder, the 51-year-old Kansas man who authorities have detained as the only suspect in the shooting of late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller, may have suffered from mental illness.

I thought Roeder was still alive. Why is this in the past tense?

6 posted on 06/01/2009 1:22:01 PM PDT by gitmo (History books will read that Lincoln freed the slaves and Obama enslaved the free.)
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To: wagglebee
Cui Bono - for whom the benefit? The left and the Obama administration are going to use him as the excuse for a crackdown on free speech and dissent and probably gun ownership on anyone critical of abortion or the socialist agenda. I smell a rat. It wouldn't be the first time the left has consumed one of their own to advance their agenda. I mean if they will accept the killing of 60 million unborn babies, what is one old doctor?
7 posted on 06/01/2009 1:22:18 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: wagglebee

ya’ think?


8 posted on 06/01/2009 1:22:24 PM PDT by mockingbyrd (Dick Cheney gets results!)
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To: wagglebee
.......and blaming pro-life advocates for his death.

They can blame me if they want to, I have big shoulders.

9 posted on 06/01/2009 1:22:41 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (29 shopping days to Graybeard58's 64th. b/day. Selah.)
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To: wagglebee
Roeder has no links to any legitimate pro-life group other than a couple of postings on a public forum on a pro-life web site. Otherwise, he has never been a volunteer of, staff member of or in any way associated with either national, state or local pro-life groups.

Well, pro-choice people post on those forums too. So what does that make them?

10 posted on 06/01/2009 1:24:25 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: gitmo

bttt


11 posted on 06/01/2009 1:24:51 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: wagglebee

I predict that he will be put on the fast track to lethal injection, just like Tim McVeigh....


12 posted on 06/01/2009 1:25:49 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Borges

How did a convicted felon get a gun. This cat was in prison before was was ‘nutz’.


13 posted on 06/01/2009 1:26:06 PM PDT by ASOC (Who IS that fat lady, and why is she singing?????)
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To: wagglebee

I hope he gets off on insanity.


14 posted on 06/01/2009 1:28:11 PM PDT by exist
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To: Borges

oh, they’ll go another route -

anyone with conservative beliefs is by definition mentally ill and therefore cannot own a firearm.

I hear “amens” from DU.


15 posted on 06/01/2009 1:28:20 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: wagglebee

something is seriously wrong with this set of circumstances.


16 posted on 06/01/2009 1:29:02 PM PDT by fortunate sun (Tell me what books you want to ban and I'll tell you what type of politics you hold.)
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To: ASOC

The conviction was overturned on grounds of an illegal search, according to earlier posts.


17 posted on 06/01/2009 1:29:13 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: gitmo

No, the past tense seems to refer to the mental illness. Just because someone was mentally ill a decade ago does not mean they still are.


18 posted on 06/01/2009 1:30:35 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ASOC
How did a convicted felon get a gun.

The Kansas Court of Appeals overturned his conviction.

19 posted on 06/01/2009 1:30:50 PM PDT by Cooter
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To: wagglebee

Oh well, that makes it all better!

Now he is not just a terrorist, but a crazy terrorist.


20 posted on 06/01/2009 1:31:53 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: wagglebee
This event has all the possibility of a major left wing media coup. The possibilities are endless: his public confession; appearing in court wearing a baggy suit; a carefully selected judge uttering wise statements blaming "teachers of hate;" his public apology- including statements as to how he has been led astray- perhaps even a redemption just before his scheduled execution. "The Divine One" on television commuting his death sentence after pleas by the decedents friends and/or family.
21 posted on 06/01/2009 1:32:37 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: wagglebee

That’s what I mean, Wag...they’re leading up to it.


22 posted on 06/01/2009 1:32:47 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: wagglebee

Kristillnacht-2009


23 posted on 06/01/2009 1:34:38 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: wagglebee
Being mentally ill DOES NOT mean a person is legally insane.

No, but it's still a plea in Court, like it or not.

24 posted on 06/01/2009 1:37:26 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: trumandogz

LOL!


25 posted on 06/01/2009 1:38:03 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (It's time for the grown ups !)
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To: MrB
anyone with conservative beliefs is by definition mentally ill and therefore cannot own a firearm.

I hear “amens” from DU.

Combine that with 'Liberalism is a mental disorder' and the government can take way all our firearms...

26 posted on 06/01/2009 1:38:48 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 133 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: pray4liberty

My guess is that this guy WANTS to plead guilty.


27 posted on 06/01/2009 1:40:37 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Maybe he is as “insane” as a Andrea Yates was. Will the ACLU will come to his defense?


28 posted on 06/01/2009 1:41:31 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: gitmo

Cue Jack Ruby.


29 posted on 06/01/2009 1:42:59 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: gitmo

Cue Jack Ruby.


30 posted on 06/01/2009 1:44:13 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: wagglebee
My guess is that this guy WANTS to plead guilty.

He needs to plea Islam, killing Tiller in the name of Allah. That'll get them all going.

31 posted on 06/01/2009 1:48:09 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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“We know Scott as a kind and loving son, brother and father who suffered from mental illness at various times in his life,

SSRIs ?
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
33 posted on 06/01/2009 1:54:42 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: MrB
anyone with conservative beliefs is by definition mentally ill and therefore cannot own a firearm.

Some are prevented from capitalization as well.

Must be hell, having to write like a little kid...

34 posted on 06/01/2009 1:57:12 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: XeniaSt

Your link didn’t work.


35 posted on 06/01/2009 2:00:05 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: humblegunner

I can only assume that

a) you misunderstood that I was referring to a tactic of the left

or

b) have nothing better to comment about than someone’s typing/posting style.


36 posted on 06/01/2009 2:02:11 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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Either way....legally insane or mentally ill there were people out there who knew he need help and just let him walk around.

It's not for lack of trying. Existing laws make it extremely tough for concerned family members to get help for other family members that have mental issues and who refuse to cooperate. You can't have someone declared incompetent or insane without due process of law. You can't force them into psychiatric treatment against their will.

The law states they have to be an imminent danger to themselves or others, but if they haven't done anything, just mouthing off, you still have no just cause. Maybe this NAMI article will help you understand what we're up against:

http://www.namide.org/pages/advocacy-public_%20policy_platform_invcomm.php

37 posted on 06/01/2009 2:05:18 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: wagglebee

It’s because of the bleeding hearts that crazy people aren’t in the nut house like they were when I was a kid. Now they just roam around as they please talking to themselves and their imaginary friends.


38 posted on 06/01/2009 2:08:17 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: MrB

Write like a grown-up and I’ll shut up about it.


39 posted on 06/01/2009 2:12:09 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

40 posted on 06/01/2009 2:13:39 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Borges

“If this line of inquiry keeps up then the story will become ‘How did a mentally ill man get a gun?’”

And then that will become, all gun owners are mentally ill.


41 posted on 06/01/2009 2:16:03 PM PDT by pallis
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42 posted on 06/01/2009 2:19:43 PM PDT by potlatch
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Your English teacher?


43 posted on 06/01/2009 2:22:27 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Morgana

You ever try to “do” something about a mentally ill person before they hurt someone (or themselves)?

The criminal revolving door has got nothing on the mentally ill revolving door. It flings them back out on an unsuspecting public at machine gun velocity.


44 posted on 06/01/2009 2:24:04 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Always be prepared to make that difference.)
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To: potlatch

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Outstanding potlatch

Perspective


45 posted on 06/01/2009 2:24:30 PM PDT by devolve ( . . . . . . . . Obama confiscated Teacher & Police Union pension funds? . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: wagglebee

They can portray us however they like. They already frame us like right-wing extremists anyway. When the last killing or bombing took place, the pro-life movement was set for a backlash, and it never happened. The current polling is in our favor right now.


46 posted on 06/01/2009 2:25:02 PM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: devolve

Thanks devolve. I liked my results, don’t know if others will.


47 posted on 06/01/2009 2:28:46 PM PDT by potlatch
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Outrage at your .gif will prove self-defeating

Well conceived graphic


48 posted on 06/01/2009 2:32:41 PM PDT by devolve ( . . . . . . . . Obama confiscated Teacher & Police Union pension funds? . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: wagglebee

No sale. He was smart enough to plan the crime. Fry him!


49 posted on 06/01/2009 2:33:20 PM PDT by dfwgator (The Huskies are Gator Bait!)
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To: wagglebee

He’s liberal... of course he has a mental condition.


50 posted on 06/01/2009 2:33:22 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A GUTLESS SOCIALIST LOSER WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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