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Donít smear OíReilly with Tiller assassination
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | June 1, 2009 | Jay Bookman

Posted on 06/01/2009 3:38:26 PM PDT by GoldStandard

I see where some folks are trying to nail Bill O’Reilly for somehow inciting the assassination of Dr. George Tiller, a Kansas abortion provider, as Tiller was handing out programs at his church Sunday.

I think O’Reilly is a pompous jerk, and the evidence demonstrates that he clearly went well overboard in his condemnation and demonization of Tiller.

But let’s be serious here. It’s irresponsible to link O’Reilly in any way to the crime in question. Even if you had evidence that the suspected killer was an O’Reilly devotee — and I have seen nothing to that effect — you would need a much stronger showing of cause and effect to justify such a serious accusation.

After all, Tiller was a controversial figure in his own right, the focus of protests and physical attacks and political grandstanding at the state and national level. This tragedy could have and probably would have happened even if O’Reilly had never mentioned Tiller’s name on the air.

O’Reilly, Limbaugh and others are symptoms of a problem, but for the most part they are not causes of the problem. If they did not exist, someone else would be sitting there doing what they do, because they are meeting a market demand. Look at Lou Dobbs and the schtick that resurrected his career; look at Michael Weiner, who laughably rebranded himself Michael Savage. They’re all playing roles for a profit, feeding off the paranoia and resentment of a certain type of American.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Georgia; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: abortion; billoreilly; foxnews; georgetiller; oreilly; smear; tiller

1 posted on 06/01/2009 3:38:26 PM PDT by GoldStandard
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To: GoldStandard

“O’Reilly, Limbaugh and others are symptoms of a problem, but for the most part they are not causes of the problem.”

How stupid can someone be, to include Limbaugh and Ohreally in the same category?


2 posted on 06/01/2009 3:41:14 PM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: GoldStandard

Leave it to the MSM to “blame “ any critics of Tiller while saying “don’t blame the critics”. Sleazy.

Can’t wait for this paer to go under too.

And BTW, there is NEVER coverage of any blacks protesting Abortion..and there were more blacks protesting at Tillers’ clinic than whites.


3 posted on 06/01/2009 3:41:35 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: GoldStandard

Bill who? Never heard of him.


4 posted on 06/01/2009 3:44:25 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: GoldStandard
Just witnessed MSNBC the Ed Show blaming O'Reilly.
5 posted on 06/01/2009 3:44:31 PM PDT by God'sgrrl
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To: jessduntno

Ohhhhhhhh...Jay Bookman AJC...stupid question...sorry...will drop him a line to tell him what an idiot he is; jbookman@ajc.com


6 posted on 06/01/2009 3:45:39 PM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: GoldStandard

Whatever. BOR misrepresented FR, now he will get a taste of his own medicine. Open wide, Bill.


7 posted on 06/01/2009 3:47:38 PM PDT by dfwgator (The Huskies are Gator Bait!)
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To: GoldStandard

Who cares about O’Reilly. He turn’s a blind eye towards the legitimate doubt of Hussein’s origin of birth, just like all the other so-called “journalists”. Let him fend for himself. I can’t stand that narcissistic pompass ass.


8 posted on 06/01/2009 3:48:04 PM PDT by 3boysdad
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Can we blame the anti war nuts for the shooting of our servicemen when they come home???


9 posted on 06/01/2009 3:48:21 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: GoldStandard
Don’t smear O’Reilly with Tiller assassination

Too late. Brian Williams did just that on the evening news just now.
10 posted on 06/01/2009 3:48:57 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: GoldStandard

"Booger, Booger, Booger..."

11 posted on 06/01/2009 3:51:02 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: GoldStandard
Bill is not responsible for anyone's death but he did dig this PR hole very deep all by himself. Let's watch him spin.


12 posted on 06/01/2009 3:51:59 PM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: GoldStandard
O’Reilly, Limbaugh and others are symptoms of a problem, but for the most part they are not causes of the problem.

No. Tiller is a symptom of a problem. A million women a year are killing their young, and men like Tiller take their money and do their dirty work for them. Thats a problem, but if Tiller didn't do it, some other moral imbecile would.

13 posted on 06/01/2009 3:52:17 PM PDT by marron
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To: GoldStandard

QUESTION: Why have I read so many anti-BOR comments here on FR? Calling him a jerk, etc. etc. etc.

I respect him for angering the liberal MSM the way he has. Granted, he & I disagree on a few issues (the death penalty, the Drug War, & maybe a few others), but that’s OK w/ me. After all, I doubt if there are any 2 ppl who agree on all issues all of the time.


14 posted on 06/01/2009 3:52:47 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: GoldStandard

BOR’s fault!


15 posted on 06/01/2009 3:53:00 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit (Two terms for politicians, one in office, one in jail.))
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To: ChrisInAR

Because he has bashed our website.


16 posted on 06/01/2009 3:54:20 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: GoldStandard
O’Reilly, Limbaugh and others... Look at Lou Dobbs... look at Michael Weiner...

Can I play that game, too?

Can I say "Look at Charles Kuralt, whose lies about American "On The Road" wholesomeness while keeping two secret bigamous familes at each end of it, led to the permissiveness that we see to day that is leading to the decline of American morals."

Can I blame Charles Kuralt?

-PJ

17 posted on 06/01/2009 3:54:45 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (This just in... Voting Republican is a Terrorist act!)
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To: Liberty Valance
O’Rielly can dish it out, he better be able to take it. Beyond that, blaming a newstalk show host for something that happened on the other side of the country is asinine. And it was a MURDER, not an assassination. I am with Rush, the drive by media is now and until further notice to be referred to as the state run media. SRM!
18 posted on 06/01/2009 3:55:48 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: marron
Absolutely, and let us not forget, women killing there young IS A HUGE PART of the problem. It is not in human instinct to do that, it is abnormal.
19 posted on 06/01/2009 3:57:31 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: ChrisInAR

You must have missed what he said about this site the other day. And even before that he was unbearable.


20 posted on 06/01/2009 3:58:50 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedys float, Mary Jos don't)
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To: Kansas58

Will Freddie Phelps be at Tiller’s funeral protesting?


21 posted on 06/01/2009 3:58:55 PM PDT by lilycicero
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To: gidget7
let us not forget, women killing there young IS A HUGE PART of the problem. It is not in human instinct to do that, it is abnormal.

Thank you. My point exactly. This is the problem. The hired scalpels who do the dirty work are a part of the problem, but the root of the problem is the moral inversion that causes someone to want to kill their young.

22 posted on 06/01/2009 4:00:53 PM PDT by marron
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To: GoldStandard

Compared to the barbarian, Tiller-the-terrible for hire, Bill is a saint. I disagree with Bill on many issues, but he is certainly not in the heinous camp of liberal fascists.


23 posted on 06/01/2009 4:01:18 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: GoldStandard

I have confidence he’ll be blaming FR tonight....


24 posted on 06/01/2009 4:01:42 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: GoldStandard

Let’s see, well over a million people watch Ted Baxter on a regular basis, but only one of them shot & killed Tiller.

Hard to make the connection based on those stats.


25 posted on 06/01/2009 4:03:31 PM PDT by jazminerose
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To: GoldStandard
If the MSM can vault the logic gaps to blame BOR, why not blame Gov. Sebelius? If not for her interference and support of Tiller, he'd be retired or in jail, but not dead. Therefore, it's her fault.
26 posted on 06/01/2009 4:04:06 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: lilycicero
Phelps is a curse.

He is deranged.

He makes it hard to attack policy that he also attacks.

He makes it hard to attack people who he also attacks.

Some inside scoop:

The Phelps family of lawyers was asked to do pro bono work for prolifers during the protests.

The Phelps family refused!

They are in all of this to glorify Fred, their perverted, child molesting, abusing father!

27 posted on 06/01/2009 4:05:13 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: colorado tanker
Our former gov, Sebelius, had a son who made a sick “board game” and sold it from the Gov’s mansion.

It included “jokes” about prisoners and soap and death and lots of stuff.

Seems we could blame Tiller's buddy, Sebelius, for some of societies ills, by this logic!

28 posted on 06/01/2009 4:07:14 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: GoldStandard

Why the fuss?

It was just another late term abortion.


29 posted on 06/01/2009 4:09:48 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I swear by my life & my love of it, that I will never buy U.S.made goods again!- In Galts Vallley!)
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To: Kansas58
OMG, it's true!

son John, who caused a stir last year when he began marketing "Don't Drop the Soap", a prison board game he created, out of the governor's mansion. Retailing for $34.99, 'Soap' makes up with heavy-handedness what it lacks in imagination, offering players the chance to "escape prison riots in The Yard, slip glass into a mob boss' lasagna in the Cafeteria, steal painkillers from the nurse's desk in the Infirmary, avoid being cornered by the Aryans in the Shower Room, fight off Latin Kings in Gang War, and try not to smoke your entire stash in The Hole..."

Sounds like the kinda kid who spends his time playing "Grand Theft Auto."

30 posted on 06/01/2009 4:13:50 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: GoldStandard
feeding off the paranoia and resentment of a certain type of American.

Just say it. You mean the typical white man clinging to his guns and Bible.

31 posted on 06/01/2009 4:25:15 PM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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To: GoldStandard

Presidents are “assassinated”. Abortionists are “murdered”.


32 posted on 06/01/2009 4:39:07 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: God'sgrrl

Did Ed accept blame for the anti-war person killing the Army recruiter? That would be consistent.


33 posted on 06/01/2009 4:41:08 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: Kansas58; Chieftain

No..they are on the LEFT...

The Left are ‘righteous Victims “..who can smear, loot, pillage, rape and murder....their gunning down innocents and setting off bombs are just them expressing their “rage’ against such an “unjust” system....

( oh, and the military protects them from those that would behead them and they yelp their tirades against the ‘capitalist system’ from their multi million dollar brownstones and call the “POH-lees” if a reporter comes knocking on their door..aka, Bill Ayers).


34 posted on 06/01/2009 4:54:51 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Kansas58

Put the hate speech law into being and O’Reilly and others would be tried in cases such as this. That would indeed cancel free speech.


35 posted on 06/01/2009 4:56:57 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (freedom has never been free)
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To: marron

Actually, it is rather encouraging that FEW doctors will do the stuff that Tiller did.


36 posted on 06/01/2009 4:58:51 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: ChrisInAR

Because he’s a biassed reporter just like all the rest of them. He hasn’t even scratched the surface on Hussein Obama... and he never will. We have a POTUS that is not “natural born”, and we all know it, but he never even treads down that road. Ever ask yourself why that is? Plus, the man just can’t “keep it pithy”.


37 posted on 06/01/2009 5:38:45 PM PDT by 3boysdad
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To: GoldStandard

Every time I see the name, “Atlanta Journal of Constitution” I think of the NY Times, Daily Kos & MSNBC all rolled up into one big load of crap.


38 posted on 06/01/2009 7:47:46 PM PDT by eaglestar
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To: pepperhead
You must have missed what he said about this site the other day. And even before that he was unbearable.

You're correct. I don't watch his show regularly.

However, I made sure to see it earlier this evening 'cuz I wanted to find out how he would report the Tiller killing. He seemed fairly reasonable tobout it to me.

I then turned to The Butch Maddow to hear her / it's side for a lil comparison. She / it presented the story just like I thought she / it would.

39 posted on 06/01/2009 10:01:16 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: GoldStandard

O’Butthead’s hunt for Tiller was one of the good things he did.

Give the man a medal...a small one.


40 posted on 06/01/2009 10:06:13 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama .....you are not my friend. You are an enemy of this nation and my culture and traditions)
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To: dfwgator

O’Reilly, The Not-So-Stealth-Democrat and Democrat Poster Boy for Catholic, “Working Class” White Male Democrats who are not Communist Sympathizers is certainly welcome to apply to his own party for help on this.


41 posted on 06/04/2009 2:23:09 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Election of 2008: Given the choice between stupid and evil, the stupid chose evil.)
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To: ChrisInAR
I respect him for angering the liberal MSM the way he has ...

What are you not getting? BO is part of the liberal media. A lifelong and dedicated Democrat, his task is to keep white Christian males, especially Catholics, in the Democrat Party as long as possible.

If "Right to Life" actually meant anything to BO, don't you think he would vote for "Right to Life" candidates? He never has. Ask him.

As long as you are a Democrat, BO is "fair and balanced." If you are not a Democrat, wise up. This guy is taking you for a ride.

42 posted on 06/06/2009 9:48:35 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Election of 2008: Given the choice between stupid and evil, the stupid chose evil.)
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