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Weld inspector’s lies may affect 9 [Navy] ships
Navy Times | 6/1/09

Posted on 06/02/2009 5:35:50 AM PDT by pabianice

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: navy; sub; submarine; weld

1 posted on 06/02/2009 5:35:50 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Possible faulty welds on submarines is not a good thing to have.


2 posted on 06/02/2009 5:39:40 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: RandallFlagg

Now this guy is a beheading/crucifixion candidate.

Unbelievable.


3 posted on 06/02/2009 5:42:19 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: pabianice

The death penalty IS an option for this, rigth?


4 posted on 06/02/2009 5:42:25 AM PDT by Mr. K (physically unabel to proofreed (<---oops))
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To: pabianice

They ought to make him go on the shakedown cruise for one of the boats.


5 posted on 06/02/2009 5:44:46 AM PDT by wysiwyg (What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
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To: RandallFlagg

The only thing I can say, and the first thing that comes to mind is “Cr#@!”....


6 posted on 06/02/2009 5:47:09 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: pabianice

I’d love to know the details on this creep.


7 posted on 06/02/2009 5:47:35 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: pabianice

I’m sure they will include a review of the indiviual welder’s “cert welds”.

This can help, because even welds “passing cert” can indicate potential for requiring closer inspection.


8 posted on 06/02/2009 5:48:01 AM PDT by G Larry (ObamaCare = "DYING IN LINE!")
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

These guys are making quite good money; I don’t understand why it would be so hard to just do your $!(($_@ job.

Hopefully the magnitude and scale of what he (didn’t) do is enough to get the guy 10-20 years in prison, at least.


9 posted on 06/02/2009 5:49:11 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: pabianice

What a evil/lazy a-hole. I bet that is a damn good paying job too. It stinks of entitlement based sabotage.


10 posted on 06/02/2009 5:49:47 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.)
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To: pabianice

Hopefully the welders were more inspired to keep our Navy safe.


11 posted on 06/02/2009 5:49:56 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: pabianice

The inspector admitted to OK-ing welds without ever having done any inspection. This makes no sense. Did he become insane after being given his job? Or was he a slob all along, but they gave him the job anyway? I have a hard time believing that any sane person would decide to jeopardize his job, the safety of potentially thousands of people, and billions of dollars just so he could sit back and relax on the job. Makes no sense.


12 posted on 06/02/2009 5:57:14 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: pabianice
In 1968 I learned of the weld problems on the Thresher (and Scorpion) when I was working on the rehab of Drydock No. 2 in the Charleston Navy Shipyard. Navy personnel were inspecting the welds on a sub in the adjacent drydock. That information was supposed to be Top Secret at the time.

Apparently, as the boats were being build, the contractor had gone to a 'piece-work' pay system on the welds. Paid by the inch. One or more of the welders was just laying welding rod in the joints and then covering them up with real welds.

I consider such acts treason. Those found guilty should be keel-hauled.

13 posted on 06/02/2009 5:59:43 AM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Clara Lou

Well, there is a shortage of workers at these yards, and an immense amount of pressure to speed up construction and reduce costs.


14 posted on 06/02/2009 6:03:20 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: pabianice

This is not a new phenomenon. When our boat went into the shipyards in Bremerton back in 1970, there was talk of x-rays finding defective hull welds throughout the ship. Where the manufacturer, Electric Boat, had been in a hurry to get this ship to sea and committed all kinds of shortcuts, the most egregious being on the two-inch hull. The evidence showed that welders would lay down a bead or two of weld, fill the cavity with slag, then weld it over with another bead or two.

Needless to say everyone was pissed but it never made the press because it would have been too embarrassing for everyone involved, including JFK who had pushed the delivery date.


15 posted on 06/02/2009 6:03:25 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: pabianice
I hate to say it but this was why, in general, I declined to go into submarines when I joined the Navy.

They wanted me to and I politely declined saying, "I don't want to be on a ship that is designed to sink."

They told me, "But it's designed to come back up again too."

I said, "What happens if the sink part works but the come back up part doesn't."

A bad weld is something I would NEVER want on a submarine.

16 posted on 06/02/2009 6:04:21 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: pabianice

Git a rope.


17 posted on 06/02/2009 6:05:36 AM PDT by dennisw (Weakness is a Crime! Don't be a Criminal - Bernarr MacFadden)
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To: pabianice

Another Northrop Grumman screw up.


18 posted on 06/02/2009 6:20:34 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: pabianice

Look for the Union Label!


19 posted on 06/02/2009 7:05:04 AM PDT by mort56 (He who would sacrifice freedom for security deserves neither. - Ben Franklin)
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To: mort56

Thank god there was a union welder that did his job correctly as the NON UNION INSPECTOR was busy doing nothing.
Apparently you have no idea that the QA department is considered management. As such no union. Luckily the union welders were good enough craftsman that some goofy “inspector” was not really needed. I really wonder whose kid this idiot belongs to, as most of these gravy jobs are filled by friends and family and not welders from the shops. I am not a fan of unions but talking smack does not impress me.


20 posted on 06/02/2009 7:32:19 AM PDT by Phishfry (Loose lips sink ships.)
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