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Don't call it 'socialism'!
USA Today | June 2, 2009 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 06/02/2009 5:58:30 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 0bama; 0bamaisfailing; atlasshrugged; bigteapartyjuly4; chicagostinks; givemeliberty; idiocracy; jonahgoldberg; libertyordeath; livefreeordie; socialism; thug; time2partyagain; washingtonmafia

1 posted on 06/02/2009 5:58:30 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

It’s in the middle of the article:

However, if you want raw data, go here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/15760333/Chrysler-Report

It is a 30 page document stored as aswf file so I cant copy and paste

map of dealers( some have found errors in the map)
http://www.nytimes.com/projects/maps/chrysler-dealerships-slated-for-closing.html

Speadsheet of dealers remaining open
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=rNK4WYEF1hxLYRg_ZHVapjA&output=html

Article showing that Chrysler dealerships that were closed that were GOP vs Democrat ::42 to 1!!
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/05/awesome-olbermann-inadvertently.html

Obama Only Interested in Bailing Out Union Buddies

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By JB Williams Friday, May 29, 2009
Obama is on the cusp of making American taxpayers the proud new bankrupt owners of what is now affectionately referred to as “Government Motors.”—As GM follows Chrysler into Fed forced bankruptcy, Obama’s economic guru has already worked out the details of how GM will emerge from bankruptcy court a wholly owned asset of the Fed.

According to reports, the US Treasury will own 72.5% of GM, after Obama carves out 17.5% for the United Auto Workers Union thugs, leaving the “old General Motors” with only a 10% stake in the new “Government Motors.”

In the good ole days, we didn’t have Czars in America because the land of the free and home of the brave did not have government owned and operated industries. That stuff only existed in the Soviet Union… Now, we need a Czar for every industry as the leftists in DC swallow up industry after industry.

With blessings from the Bilderberg Group, Timothy Geithner proceeds with Obamanation plans to industrialize the US Fed by consuming yet another major private sector industry.

As Obama rushes to buy up [you didn’t really think it was a bailout did you?] private sector industries, one after another, it becomes more and more clear exactly what kinds of “change” Obama had in mind. Too bad his voters never bothered to ask before voting…

Guess which Chrysler dealerships Obama and Geithner saw no need to save? Blogger Doug Ross provides facts you are not likely to see on CNN…

Vernon G. Buchanan: $147,450 to GOP candidates and organizations
Wallace D. Alley and Family: $4,500 to GOP.
Robert Archer: $4,600 to GOP and conservative causes.
Homer S. Higginbotham and Family: $2950 to GOP.
James Auffenberg and Family: $28,000 to GOP; $6,000 to one Democrat candidate.
Michael Maroone and Family: $60,000 to GOP; $8,500 to two Democrat candidates.
Jerome Fader: $6,500 to Democrats; $2,500 to Independent Joe Lieberman.
Stephen Fay and Family: $13,500 to GOP.
William Numrich: $20,000 to GOP.
Robert Carver: $10,000 to Democrats including $1,950 to Hillary Clinton, nothing to Barack Obama.
Robert and Linda Rohrman: $24,000 to GOP.
Frank Boucher, Jr. and Family: $18,000 to GOP, $1,000 to one Democrat candidate.
Scott Bossier: $4,300 to GOP.
Todd Reardon: $17,000 to GOP; $2,000 to one Democrat candidate.
Russ Darrow and Family: $78,000 to GOP.
Bradford Deery and Family: $24,700 to GOP.
Charles Gabus and Family: $30,000 to GOP.
Brian Smith: $15,500 to GOP.
Michael Schlossman: $14,000 to GOP; $14,000 to three Democrats ($12,500 to Sen. Russ Feingold).
Don Hill: $11,000 to GOP; $12,800 to conservative incumbent Rep. Heath Shuler.
Don Miller: $2,000 to GOP; $1,000 to Feingold.
Eddie Cordes: $2,150 to GOP.
Robert Edwards: $1,100 to GOP.
James Crowley: $19,100 to GOP.
Stanley Graff: $2,200 to John Edwards (2008 Presidential Run); $500 to GOP.
John Stewart: $10,500 to GOP.
John Fitzgerald and Family: $4,600 to John McCain (2008); $2,000 to Hillary Clinton (2008); nothing to Barack Obama.

William Churchill and Family: $3,500 to GOP.
Thomas Ganley: $9.450 to GOP.
Gary Miller: $20,000 to GOP.
Kevin and Gene Beltz: $18,500 to GOP.
Arthur Grayson: $14,000 to GOP.
Eric Grubbs and Family: $26,000 to GOP.
Michael Leep and Family: $19,500 to GOP; $4,800 to three Democrats including Sen. Evan Bayh.
Harry Green, Jr.: $10,000 to GOP.
Ronald Hoover: $5,250 to GOP.
Ray Huffines and Family: $18,500 to GOP.
John O. Stevenson: $1,500 to GOP.
James Marsh: $8,200 to GOP.
Max Pearson and Family: $112,000 to GOP.
World Net Daily reviewed the list of 789 closing franchises and databases of political donors and found that of dealership majority owners making contributions in the November 2008 election, less than 10 percent gifted to Democrats while 90 percent gave substantial sums to Republican candidates.

Ross further reports—“Red State, American Thinker, Joey Smith and Reliapundit provide anecdotal and quantitative evidence that would appear to confirm a decided bias against dealers who donated to GOP causes or to anti-Obama Democrats. - Quote from an attorney who Deposed Chrysler’s president last week: “It became clear to us that Chrysler does not see the wisdom of terminating 25 percent of its dealers… It really wasn’t Chrysler’s decision. They are under enormous pressure from the President’s automotive task force.” - Late night updates from Joey Smith and Thomas Lamb: Large Democrat Donor groups not only remain open in all locations, but have their competition eliminated… and/or can purchase for pennies on the dollar.”

Obama’s Banana Republic
Banks thought Obama had their best interests at heart too, until the Obama administration forced banks that didn’t need “bailout” money to take it anyway, and then refused to allow banks to return the funds, sinking the Fed’s power-drunk teeth deeper and deeper into the jugular of the banking industry.

Now Obama is sinking his teeth into America’s last major manufacturing industry and the labor unions that put Obama in power are the only winners in Obama’s banana republic.

Obama knows that pushing his far left agenda will be far easier with the money and manpower of Big Labor on his side. Obama himself said in his political memoir, “The Audacity of Hope,”—“I owe those unions… When their leaders call, I do my best to call them back right away. I don’t mind feeling obligated.”

As Dictator-in-Chief, Obama is able to pay off many personal debts to those responsible for his power.

Republican House Rep. Steve King of Iowa, has launched a people’s petition aimed at stopping Obama’s rush to turn America over to union thugs here at righttoworkfoundation.org.

But Thou Dare NOT Protest Too Much!
Folks speaking out against Obama’s dictatorial leap into unbridled Marxism are finding out that there is a price for “free speech” under the new banana republic.

In February an active duty military Officer Called Obama a ‘Usurper’ President. “Until Mr. Obama releases a ‘vault copy’ of his original birth certificate for public review, I will consider him neither my Commander in Chief nor my President, but rather, a usurper to the Office—an impostor,” 1st Lt. Scott R. Easterling stated in his letter published at Defendourfreedoms.com.

Military.com followed the story and issued a Military poll asking; Should a Soldier serve if he doesn’t think the president is legitimate? Only 32% of respondents said “If a Soldier in good conscience does not believe the president is constitutionally eligible to serve, he should not execute his duties and is right to protest the president’s orders.”

37% said Easterling should essentially shut up and serve, and 30% said he should be court martialed for speaking out. Maybe this 67% of respondents should read their oath to “protect and defend the constitution” one more time? If Obama is NOT a constitutional president, then they are NOT defending the constitution… Easterling is right!

Retired Navy Commander Walter Francis Fitzpatrick has file criminal charges against Barack Obama (aka Barry Soetoro) charging him with acts of “treason.” Public Grand Jury indictments have been issued against president Obama, as a result of a Grand Jury effort by Fitzpatrick and others like Carl Swensson at http://wethepeopleusa.ning.com/profile/CarlSwensson.

Other patriotic Americans concerned with Obama’s daily attack on all things American, have taken part in TEA Party protests. Fitzpatrick, Swensson and several TEA Party protesters have all since received personal visits from the Secret Service or FBI. Under Obama’s DHS definition of “domestic terrorists,” folks who own a bible or pocket constitution are of grave concern these days. Free speech isn’t free… it may come at a very high price in the end.

Bottom Line
Once again, I find myself forced to ask, “Now have we seen enough?”

On several occasions I have asked, what is it going to take for average Americans to wake up and stand up? And once again, I must point out that whatever it is, it hasn’t happened yet!

Maybe Government Motors is the last straw. Maybe putting Republican leaning Chrysler dealerships out of business will do the trick. Maybe siccing FBI and Secret Service agents on decent concerned citizens who happen to disagree with Obama’s version of Marxism will get people fired up…

Whatever it is, it had better happen soon, because Obamanation is fast turning the beacon of freedom around the world into just another broken banana republic.

Come on folks! When France thinks your president is a joke on national security, Russia thinks he’s moving too fast towards communism and MSNBC libs like Rachel Maddow has to call him out for his anti-constitutional double talk, it’s time to wake up! Watch Rachel Maddow destroy Obama on lying to the American people!


2 posted on 06/02/2009 6:02:35 AM PDT by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: RaceBannon

Bookmark


3 posted on 06/02/2009 6:05:27 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: reaganaut1

I won’t call it socialism, I’ll call it ‘fascism.’


4 posted on 06/02/2009 6:07:29 AM PDT by dfwgator (The Huskies are Gator Bait!)
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To: dfwgator

I’m surprised the author of “Liberal Facism” DIDN’T use the “F word”.


5 posted on 06/02/2009 6:08:13 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: dfwgator

It is starting to look like a hybrid mix of the two, socialism and fascism. A rose by any other name...still stinks and is 100% un-American. We need to get this guy out of there. Hey obama, where’s the BC!?


6 posted on 06/02/2009 6:09:41 AM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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To: reaganaut1

A question that the liberal scoffers cannot answer:

“OK, so you deny that it is socialism. How would their policy be different if they WERE attempting to destroy capitalism and implement socialism?”


7 posted on 06/02/2009 6:10:17 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: RaceBannon

“Once again, I find myself forced to ask, “Now have we seen enough?””

America hasn’t got the bill yet. When it arrives, Obamachev’s great adventure will not be so popular.


8 posted on 06/02/2009 6:12:08 AM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: reaganaut1
The government effectively owns General Motors and controls Chrysler, and the president is deciding what kind of cars they can make.

Now the government is in a position to learn the harsh lesson that GM and Chrysler will have to make a product that must compete against Ford and the foreign auto makers. Why would anyone buy an overpriced undersized Government Motors product instead of a Ford? How will Government Motors compete? Probably by legislating against Ford and the foreign auto makers.

Of course other governments have overcome such a problem.


9 posted on 06/02/2009 6:19:02 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (We have nothing to fear but Obama himself.)
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To: reaganaut1

Jonah,.....Doesn’t “get it”!

NO liberal will ever be satisfied with “corporatism”, European socialism, or democratic socialism! No! No! No!

These are merely station stops on the train line. The final destination **is** and always was communism!

Don’t be fooled. A liberal is at his **core** a Marxist!

Axiom: Scratch a liberal and under his thin skin is a socialist. Dig a little deeper and you will soon find the communist nuclear fuel rod that drives everything he says and does!

Corollary: All Marxists lie, cheat, steal, and corrupt. There is no such thing a “good will” with a liberal/Marxist. They would kill us if they could. They just can’t get away with it...(yet).


10 posted on 06/02/2009 6:20:14 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar
"It is starting to look like a hybrid mix of the two, socialism and fascism.

I think it is called a Communistic dictatorship, with checks and balances in name only with a rubber stamp congress, and a politicized Supreme Court.

11 posted on 06/02/2009 6:23:05 AM PDT by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals do not view the book 1984 as a warning but as a textbook.)
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To: wintertime
"Axiom: Scratch a liberal and under his thin skin is a socialist. Dig a little deeper and you will soon find the communist nuclear fuel rod that drives everything he says and does!"

Worth repeating again & again! (See my tag line)

12 posted on 06/02/2009 6:23:45 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: reaganaut1

Because it’s fascism?


13 posted on 06/02/2009 6:24:11 AM PDT by MortMan (Power without responsibility-the prerogative of the harlot throughout the ages. - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: y6162
America hasn’t got the bill yet."

The bill will be death to America.

Who is in charge of the clattering train?
The axles creak and the couplings strain;
And the pace is hot,and the points are near,
And Sleep has deadened the driver's ear;
And the signals flash through the night in vain,
For Death is in charge of the clattering train.
"
qutoed by Winston Churchill in "The History of WWII", Volume 1, The Gathering Storm, pg 123.

14 posted on 06/02/2009 6:27:56 AM PDT by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals do not view the book 1984 as a warning but as a textbook.)
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To: newfreep

(”Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink.”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Showed this to my husband. We are both chuckling.


15 posted on 06/02/2009 6:27:58 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: RaceBannon
Guess which Chrysler dealerships Obama and Geithner saw no need to save?

Are you a freaking idiot? I will say this again: The issue is not the politics of the dealerships that 0bambi is closing, but the politics of the dealerships that he has allowed to stay open. What percentage of those dealerships that will remain open support the RATs vs. the GOP?

16 posted on 06/02/2009 6:28:42 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: wintertime

Exactly....


17 posted on 06/02/2009 6:29:38 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: wintertime

Read FA Hayek’s Road to Serfdom

There is no such thing as “a little bit of socialism”.
There is no such thing as “benign socialism”.
There is no such thing as “representative/democratic socialism” - it MUST be authoritarian.
There is no such thing as a benign authoritarian - he must be, of necessity, cruel and ruthless.


18 posted on 06/02/2009 6:30:51 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: RaceBannon

The Constitution Party?


19 posted on 06/02/2009 6:37:52 AM PDT by sunny48
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To: reaganaut1

I heard what I believe is the new Leftist spin on the GM takeover. A local lib talks show host is arguing that the govt taking over GM means that it is now owned by “The People”. The argument is that since the govt is “the people” its no big deal. With that attitude, all property could be owned by the govt and still have it belong to “the people”. Leftists are now trying to blur the lines between the private and public sectors and private and public property.


20 posted on 06/02/2009 6:42:43 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: dfwgator

Me too. that’s why I refer to Obozo as ‘Il Douche’.


21 posted on 06/02/2009 6:54:34 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: reaganaut1
Don't call it 'socialism'!

Two weeks age Ben Stein called it Syndicalism

22 posted on 06/02/2009 7:06:04 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Hacklehead

So GM is owned by “the People?” Oh, I see...the same way North Korea is a “People’s Republic.”


23 posted on 06/02/2009 7:17:30 AM PDT by henkster (The GOP is housebroken window-dressing displayed to portray the fiction of a Republic.)
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To: reaganaut1
Alright, now explain sometime to me please (and I apologize, as this is probably my second post in a long time). If I remember my history correctly, the colonists went to war with England to maintain autonomy from the King and all the tariffs. They wanted independence from the way the King was ruling over them. With what is going on now, the road we are being lead down, isn't that just a reversal for America if socialism (oops, did I use that word?!?) becomes our way of life? And if so, what was the point of become independent? And please, correct me if I'm am wrong on this point, it's been awhile since I've taken any history classes. ><
24 posted on 06/02/2009 7:38:58 AM PDT by Dritz_Princess (Blonde, a woman, and I cling to my guns ... questions?)
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To: henkster

“So GM is owned by “the People?” Oh, I see...the same way North Korea is a “People’s Republic.””

A company run by the govt and unions is going to make North Korea look good. Its hard to imagine a worse combination for management.


25 posted on 06/02/2009 7:39:33 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: MrB
He was adjusting his argument to the audience - to prove a point without getting preemptive screams. The last paragraph:

"Personally, I think socialism is the wrong word for all of this. "Corporatism" — the economic doctrine of fascism — fits better. Under corporatism, all the big players in the economy — big business, unions, interest groups — sit around the table with government at the head, hashing out what they think is best for everyone to the detriment of consumers, markets and entrepreneurs. But, take it from me, liberals are far more open to the argument that they're "crypto-socialists."

26 posted on 06/02/2009 8:45:35 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: reaganaut1

Socialism is organized crime. It is a religion of thieves. Socialists are gangsters.


27 posted on 06/02/2009 10:54:57 AM PDT by TexasRepublic
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