Skip to comments.Judge Bans Bible from Pennsylvania Kindergarten Show and Tell
Posted on 06/02/2009 6:40:54 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
PHILADELPHIA A U.S. court says a kindergartner's mother cannot read Scripture during show and tell, even if the Bible is the boy's favorite book.
Monday's ruling is a victory for the Marple Newtown School District in suburban Philadelphia.
The 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals says the school's decision does not violate First Amendment rights given the nonpublic nature of the classroom and the tender age of the children.
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Why would a Christian parent send her children to a government school?
For at least 50 years now we have had judges just saying whatever they want the law to be, is what it is.
Following show and tell is the mandatory Islam Awareness coloring activity.
Blessed is the man
who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked
or stand in the way of sinners
or sit in the seat of mockers.
(or send his children there)
Anyways, it was near the end of the end and parents were coming in to pick up their kids. I overheard a few talking with the teacher on “What is the military doing here?” and “We need to bring in an environmentalist to balance him out!”
“Monday’s ruling is a victory for the Marple Newtown School District in suburban Philadelphia”
Suppression of free speech is a victory?
It would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around his neck than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin. —Luke 17:2
We need to contact this mother. She needs to come in and read the Bible, and get arrested if need be. We need to have folks jammed into the school that day to support her, and then right on to the Supreme Court. We will WIN this case...we just need to get some light on it. This is a slam dunk. The Appeals court far overstepped its bounds, and violated the 1st and 10th Amendements.
There, fixed it.
The little ones are too impressionable to hear anything from the Bible, but they must be exposed to the notion of homosexual relationships, so that they will accept it as normal.
But homosexuality isn’t as dangerous as Christianity... /libspeak
Any sober, married parent can afford to send his or her children to a Christian school. Maybe not an elitist sort of country day school, but a school where Christ is worshipped, God’s law is honored, and, not incidentally, little minds are educated.
Someone has to explain this to me.
things sure have changed. I went to a public school, and we had bible study, a literature class, but none the less bible study.
Sometimes believers choose to do this, we must all consider what God desires from us. I have one in public school and one that we homeschool. I know my older is a light in a dark place. She is well grounded and knows what she believes. We also live in a conservative pocket in a liberal state. I just ask you to bit paint with a broad brush.
Maybe where you live. I’ve lived in a number of places with no private school of any sort.
Right with ya. Both kids, Catholic Schools 8 years worth. This judge fits the mold of educated way beyond his intelligence. They see the 1st ammendment as “freedom from religion”.
Ping for later
>>Maybe where you live. Ive lived in a number of places with no private school of any sort.<<
I homeschool for 150.00 a year. CD-Rom based.
And the nice thing about homeschooling is it doesn’t have to be 9-5.
I know single moms who get the kids work done when they are home. Understanding that my girls are two years ahead and get their work done in three hours, anyone can homeschool.
“Monday’s ruling is a victory for the Marple Newtown School District in suburban Philadelphia.”
It is a loss, however, for the entire planet.
Spirit takes another one in the neck. How long before the Center of Spirit decides to strike back?
I don’t have all that much of a problem with the decision in that the matter should be left up to the principal.
What is concerning is that if the principal did decide to allow the reading, would the court have backed him up? I doubt it.
And would the principal have as aggressively intervened if the Muslim parent read from the Koran or a Jewish parent read from Exodus? I’m not so sure.
>>You are missing the point. The parent is already paying to have her child go to school...it’s called taxation. <<
Truth be told.
But I consider it a wash. I’m actually educating the other skulls full of mush so my kids don’t have to deal with a bunch of dummies when they are older.
But I educate my own kids.
Look, the judge is an arrogant self centered pig whose ruling finds no support whatever in the Constitution or the original intent of the founders. But, this mother has the ability to immediately remove her children from this Godless (no, anti-God) environment and then has the rest of her life to do battle with navel gazing judges.
The activist judges had to reaaaaaaly stretch credulity on that one.
What's going on here is anti-Christian activist judges and they were going to rule against the boy, by taking away his 1st Amendment rights, one way or the other / by hook or by crook.
If Monday's ruling is a victory for the Marple Newtown School District in suburban Philadelphia, then the Marple Newtown School District in an Enemy of the Republic.
At this point in the decline of our Republic, why mince words? Tell the truth: They are an Enemy of the Republic.
you are KIDDING? that is insanity!
What if it was a Koran?
Sentences I didn't finish.
You are right. And I’d bet anything that this same judge wouldn’t have a problem with these children of “tender years” being read to from “Heather Has Two Mommies” or the like.
It’s a temporary victory for Satan and his minions. It’s only temporary, because his time is getting short. His wrath is increasing in light of that knowledge.
Is that a rhetorical question?
The ultimate crime and the ultimate sin is teaching children to hate. It causes all the trouble in the world without exception. It destroys cultures, sanity, peace, and all that is good. It perpetuates itself down the generations, and it is almost impossible to stop. May God have mercy on us.
To put this in perspective:
How would you feel if I said my kid’s favorite book was the Talmud or some other Jewish text (which it is), and I selected passages that excoriated polytheists like Christians as horrid heretics who corrupt the Torah, and fail to worship G-d?*
Or muslims who select the koran, and they read the passages that claim Jesus merely “swooned” and did not die and that Jews and Christians are the sons of apes and dogs?
Or the book of mormon that preaches that Christians are all wrong, that the “trinity” does not exist, but is three distinct people, and Mary had physical sex with some being to create Jesus?
Or perhaps read portions of the Protestant Bible that says Jesus had brothers and sisters, and Roman Catholics are all wet about Mary’s permanant virignity?
Or maybe even some Scientologist tract about Xenu and space aliens and mental implants?
This is a real problem. There is a concerted effort by violent muslim sects to seek converts, especially in US Prison. The efforts are well-funded by Gulf nations.
The muslim efforts focus now in black areas, with some considerable success (witness the recent convert who killed Army recruiters).
Opening the door to the goose, lets in the gander, too.
Ergo, this is a correct ruling.
* A foul position I do not take, but posit for the purpose of argument.
Religious persecution is under way in America and the wheat will be separated from the chaff. The church will survive, perhaps smaller but definitely stronger.
No. I anticipate an answer. If it were a Koran in question, and not a Bible, what would be the responses here at FR? Happy? Relieved? Outraged?
Hmmm, I wonder how this would have turned out if I had sued my school district for allowing a Muslim mother to come in to my daughter’s kindergarten class and read from the Quran, discuss Ramadan, give them gifts, write their names in Arabic and (my personal favorite) tell the kids that the best part of Christmas is the presents and parties, just like Ramadan.
I just happened to be in the classroom volunteering, or I would have never known about this happening, because the parents weren’t notified of this action. He changed the school policy so that no one was allowed to come in and discuss religion without parental consent and notification.
The ironic thing is that the Muslims always pulled their kids out of the parties at school. They had notice about things the school did that offended their religious principals, and were able to opt out. This Muslim woman and the school district obviously didn’t agree that Christians and Jews should be afforded the same respect.
This happened ten years ago, and it still makes me mad. But, if I had sued, I am sure it would have gone a different way since it would have been a Christian making the complaint.
Once again, you assume that she has the wherewithall to pay for attendance to a private school. Interesting that you know so much about her financial situation. It must be nice to be wealthy. Too bad you’ve lost touch with the rest of us and what it costs for us to live.
I don’t know what it costs in your neck of the woods, by in Houston, you have to have an additional $1000/month to send your kid to a Christian school.
Let’s not play that game. Everyone who wants to has the financial wherewithall to provide a Christian education to her children. In my neighborhood, for instance there are any number of separate, organized Christian school systems: Catholic, Lutheran (LCMS), Lutheran (ELCA) Southern Baptist, Amish, and a boatload of non-denominational. Every school offers tuition assistance (up to and including 100% assistance). Parents must make a basic value judgment: “is the new car (boat, snowmobile , girlfriend, etc.) more important than my child’s Christian education?”.
Whatever you say, cluless.