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Tiller clinic plans to reopen next week
The Wichita Eagle ^ | 06/02/09 | Stan Finger

Posted on 06/02/2009 7:35:23 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220

Women's Health Care Services, the clinic run by slain abortion provider George Tiller, will resume operations next Monday, a physician who worked with Tiller said Monday.

The clinic at 5107 E. Kellogg will remain closed the rest of this week so staff members and family can mourn Tiller's death, said LeRoy Carhart, a Nebraska physician who has come to Tiller's clinic on a rotating basis for more than 10 years.

"What people need to know is... the women's services that we provided for 30 years are not going to change," Carhart said. "The same abortion services will remain available in Wichita."

Tiller, 67, was shot to death just after 10 a.m. Sunday in the foyer of Reformation Lutheran Church, where he was serving as an usher.

Scott Roeder, 51, of Merriam, has been arrested in connection with the shooting, according to the Johnson County Sheriff's Office. He remains at the Sedgwick County Jail pending the formal filing of charges.

Carhart said he drove to Wichita on Sunday night. He met with clinic employees and Tiller's wife and daughters Monday morning.

"It was a really, really good meeting," Carhart said. "It was a chance to go over all the important things and the good things George had done for each of us, and ways that we could appreciate all that he's done for the community and the women of this country.

"His daughters and his wife are doing far better than I would be doing if I just lost my life partner or my mother or father," he said.

Patients who had appointments this week have been notified of the clinic's closing, and other arrangements for their care have been made, Carhart said.

"Starting next Monday we should be back to 100 percent," he said.

Carhart said he and two other out-of-state doctors have been rotating weekly shifts at the clinic, and that will continue.

The two other doctors are licensed to practice medicine in the state of Kansas and have no complaints against them, said Kristi Pankratz, a spokeswoman for the state Board of Healing Arts.

Wichita police have stepped up patrols at the clinic on East Kellogg, said Daryl Ingermanson, chief deputy for the U.S. Marshal's Kansas district. But no U.S. marshals have been assigned to guard Tiller's clinic, he said.

"At this point, we haven't been directed to," Ingermanson said.

Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday ordered increased security for some abortion clinics and doctors in the wake of Tiller's slaying.

Jeff Carter, a spokesman for the U.S. Marshals Service, confirmed the decision "to increase security for a number of individuals and facilities" but would not disclose further details.

Tiller's clinic has been bombed, blockaded and vandalized at various times over the past two decades.

A staff member reported severe vandalism to the clinic to authorities May 2, and a letter threatening Tiller's life was reported May 4.

Authorities on Monday did not respond to inquiries about whether the suspect in custody is linked to the threatening letter.

Bridget Patton, a spokeswoman for the FBI in Kansas City, Mo., said she could neither confirm nor deny that the suspect arrested in connection with Tiller's death had been on any kind of an agency watch list.

"We do have an open investigation into the vandalism at that clinic," Patton said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
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1 posted on 06/02/2009 7:35:23 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: Sig Sauer P220

That’s the spirit.


2 posted on 06/02/2009 7:37:41 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Sig Sauer P220
"What people need to know is... the women's services that we provided for 30 years are not going to change," Carhart said. "The same abortion services will remain available in Wichita."

Including the illegal late-term abortion ones? Does this guy have enough money to pay Sebelius to keep him out of jail too?

3 posted on 06/02/2009 7:39:02 AM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: Sig Sauer P220
Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday ordered increased security for some abortion clinics and doctors in the wake of Tiller's slaying.

I wonder whether he's ordered the same for military recruitment offices around the country after the soldier's death.

4 posted on 06/02/2009 7:39:15 AM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

Of course, there’s money to be had, err I mean women to be served.


5 posted on 06/02/2009 7:39:21 AM PDT by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com)
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To: the invisib1e hand
"That's the spirit"....

yeah, the "spirit of falsehood", ie, Satan.

1 John 4:6

6 posted on 06/02/2009 7:40:01 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

Can’t let that revenue stream interrupted for too long.


7 posted on 06/02/2009 7:40:03 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Sig Sauer P220
"It was a really, really good meeting," Carhart said. "It was a chance to go over all the important things and the good things George had done for each of us, and ways that we could appreciate all that he's done for the community and the women of this country.

So Serial baby killing is now being described as "good things"? What a sick f**k!

8 posted on 06/02/2009 7:40:38 AM PDT by meandog (If you don't like pitbulls, don't get one!)
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To: bcsco
Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday ordered increased security for some abortion clinics and doctors in the wake of Tiller's slaying.

Interesting choice of words, they're not calling it murder now? Hits too close to home about what he's been doing to those poor babies all these years?

9 posted on 06/02/2009 7:43:51 AM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: meandog

It’s just an honest business and you folks want to encumber it with regulations. /sarc


10 posted on 06/02/2009 7:43:54 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Sig Sauer P220

Bet you that is going to be a circus.


11 posted on 06/02/2009 7:45:30 AM PDT by ex91B10 (The only response now is mass armed resistance.)
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To: meandog

Meandog, you’re the man. These people are beyond deluded.


12 posted on 06/02/2009 7:46:09 AM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: pray4liberty

People are murdered, demons are slayed...


13 posted on 06/02/2009 7:47:41 AM PDT by kenth
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To: Sig Sauer P220
Just can't wait to get back to businessKILLING can they!
14 posted on 06/02/2009 7:47:59 AM PDT by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: kenth
People are murdered, demons are slayed...

Ha, maybe that'll resonate with the World of Warcraft crowd.

15 posted on 06/02/2009 7:49:15 AM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: pray4liberty

That is an interesting choice of word. Slaying is properly used in this context, but why not call it what it is? Murder. This would be the journalist’s word. Hmmmm...

I despise anyone connected with the abortion industry; even peripherally. But I also despise anyone who takes another’s life wantonly for anything other than self preservation or in defense of one’s country. Both are wrong in the eyes of God.


16 posted on 06/02/2009 7:51:19 AM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

While Tiller’s death was murder and the perpetrator will have to pay in this world and the next, I cannot help but to think about what Tiller had to say when he met his ultimate judgment and had to account for his 30 years of “services to women”.


17 posted on 06/02/2009 7:56:46 AM PDT by The Great RJ (chain.)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

If someone wants to kill an abortion doctor, the last place they’ll do it is where there’s a bunch of security, so if we really want to keep them safe, why doesn’t the clinic just pay for 24-hour bodyguard protection, AG Holder, and stop asking the taxpayer to protect them where they aren’t vulnerable? I mean it doesn’t take a CIA agent to follow someone around and see what their patterns of movement are (even the dumbest criminals know this), so it was obvious to this killer where Tiller was vulnerable. He needed 24/7 protection, not clinic protection.

Killing babies is dangerous business. It has been for a long time. If you want to kill babies, you just need to deal with the risks just like other people in dangerous jobs. Maybe they all need to carry and take better precautions. If it were me, and I was a high profile killer like Tiller, I think I would have shelled out for a personal bodyguard.


18 posted on 06/02/2009 7:58:38 AM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: The Great RJ

Amen. As will those who continue on in his absence.


19 posted on 06/02/2009 7:59:45 AM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: The Great RJ

Tiller’s murder really stopped nothing. But it did give the far left a sounding board against conservatism and moral people. Even if Tiller’s murderer was just a crank, a far right loon who does not represent most moral, law-abiding and conservative people, the far left will use this to paint all conservatives as wacko nutjobs. Maybe Obummer himself will preside over the next late term abortion. That would not surprise me in the least.


20 posted on 06/02/2009 8:01:45 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: bcsco
The liberal left are masters at twisting words, they get their inspiration from the God of Lies.

I just wanted to point out that initial coverage used the word "murder." Now it's "slaying." What's next?

21 posted on 06/02/2009 8:02:31 AM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

At least they won’t seek the death penalty (cruel and unusual) for Tillers slayer.


22 posted on 06/02/2009 8:05:18 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: pray4liberty
What's next?

'Slaying' is appropriate for killing in large numbers as well as individually. That's why it's interesting to me. Murder is commonly used for individual killings or in small numbers.

That makes 'slaying' kinda ironic. It could well be used to describe Tiller even more so than his killer.

23 posted on 06/02/2009 8:07:28 AM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: bcsco

If a Texan Scott Roeder shoots and kills a burglar exiting a neighbor’s house, is this an unGodly murder?

If the policeman Scott Roeder shoots and kills a man who is in the process of killing others, is this an unGodly murder?

If the soilder Scott Roeder shoots and kills a German soilder under orders from Dwight Eisenhowerser or FDR, is this an unGodly murder?

If Scott Roeder had killed George Tiller while Tiller had the foreceps inside a living baby’s skull, would this have been an unGodly murder?

If Scott Roeder had killed Osama bin Laden while bin Laden was passing around the collection plate for the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Islam, would this have been unGodly murder?


24 posted on 06/02/2009 8:09:26 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: Sig Sauer P220
"His daughters and his wife are doing far better than I would be doing if I just lost my life partner or my mother or father," he said.

Maybe living with a mass murderer isn't all it's cracked up to be. Than man murdered infants for money.

25 posted on 06/02/2009 8:12:05 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: pray4liberty

Sebelius is out of the picture now, as part of the Obama administration. I am hopeful that the clinic will wane away.

Tiller was ‘all in’. He had been bribing public officials for years. Conversely, Sebelius knew that if she failed to perform for Tiller, he would take her down with him...so they both played a high stakes game. He actually bought himself out of criminal prosecution in the wide open.

Now, will any new public official want to get so wrapped up in the clinic, with a new guy? I doubt it. The new governor is Mark Parkinson. A turncoat democrat, who just a few years ago was the head of the Kansas republican party. I don’t see him getting wrapped up in this. He has even declared that he won’t run for re-election...which makes him hard to buy. The current AG is a lackey, chosen by Sebelius (the previous AG who was elected, using Tiller cash, left in a sex scandal) who certainly won’t prosecute any Tiller successor...but when new elections come around, I full expect Phil Kline to run again.

To put it bluntly, I don’t think any new doctor, or any current politician will have the stomach for blatantly violating the law anymore.


26 posted on 06/02/2009 8:12:29 AM PDT by lacrew (The 274th trimester is a very late procedure)
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To: mbarker12474
If a Texan Scott Roeder shoots and kills a burglar exiting a neighbor’s house, is this an unGodly murder?

Yes, if that burgler wasn't a threat.

If the policeman Scott Roeder shoots and kills a man who is in the process of killing others, is this an unGodly murder?

No. He's protecting the life of others.

If the soilder Scott Roeder shoots and kills a German soilder under orders from Dwight Eisenhowerser or FDR, is this an unGodly murder?

No, that was one of the points I made.

If Scott Roeder had killed George Tiller while Tiller had the foreceps inside a living baby’s skull, would this have been an unGodly murder?

Unfortunately, yes in the law's eyes. In God's eyes I believe it's another matter (see your second point).

If Scott Roeder had killed Osama bin Laden while bin Laden was passing around the collection plate for the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Islam, would this have been unGodly murder?

Yes. Osama bin Laden, while a fugitive from American justice, was not engaged in any life-threatening action at the time. The proper course would be to see that he's taken into custody.

I still believe in a nation of laws, for what it's worth today. And in America it's criminal to kill someone without sufficient reason; regardless of who or what that person is. That's the rule of law. And that's what we conservatives preach every day. We talk the talk, we have to walk the walk.

27 posted on 06/02/2009 8:20:05 AM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: bcsco
That makes 'slaying' kinda ironic. It could well be used to describe Tiller even more so than his killer.

You're right. However, the word "slaying" doesn't have the same impact the word murder does in the average person's consciousness. It's liberal brainwashing at its finest.

When Average Joe, sitting in his recliner with his ice-cold beer and the remote in his hand, hears the word "murder" he pays a little more attention than if he hears the word "slaying." My guess is that the pro-aborts are seeing how all that coverage is backfiring on their hero, so they are backpeddling to win the war in words.

From what I can tell, Average Joe is not sympathetic to George Tiller. In his heart, he's thinking the guy got what was coming to him and changes the channel.

28 posted on 06/02/2009 8:22:33 AM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

29 posted on 06/02/2009 8:24:01 AM PDT by Lizavetta (Politicians: When they're not lying, they're stealing.)
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To: bcsco

In my opinion, Tiller was on the same level as Mengele.


30 posted on 06/02/2009 8:24:04 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: bcsco

In my opinion, Tiller was on the same level as Mengele.


31 posted on 06/02/2009 8:24:15 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: pray4liberty
My guess is that the pro-aborts are seeing how all that coverage is backfiring on their hero, so they are backpeddling to win the war in words.

I see where you're going with this. But the media is up in arms over this killing yet nothing is being said about the murder at the recruiting office. It's hard for me to see the media backing off on verbiage yet going all out to condemn the act. No, I think this is merely one journalist's choice of words.

32 posted on 06/02/2009 8:28:48 AM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: Petronski

Maybe one of the babies NOT KILLED this week will grow up to be President someday. What the country will be like or be called by then is anyone’s guess, but I’m bettin nobama and his scummy lib friends will be done with in 4, maybe 6 years tops (depending on how many freedoms the HNIC tries to take from us).

Just hope there are plenty of good strong lamp posts around to hold all these socialist tyrants and assistants.


33 posted on 06/02/2009 8:28:48 AM PDT by dusttoyou (Remember the Alamo Tea Party - CHENEY-PALIN 2012)
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To: Ev Reeman
In my opinion, Tiller was on the same level as Mengele.

No argument. However, in our convoluted world, what Tiller did is protected by law. What And that makes it even the more heinous.

34 posted on 06/02/2009 8:30:57 AM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: bcsco
No, I think this is merely one journalist's choice of words.

What one journalist writes, the others pick up.

I know what they're doing, and it's laughable. I used to work for the media years ago...way back when they actually reported the truth. They are lemmings now.

35 posted on 06/02/2009 8:35:33 AM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: dusttoyou
Maybe one of the babies NOT KILLED this week will grow up to be President someday.

You know, when you think about it, its surprising a nutcase mother like Obama had, didn't abort her baby.
36 posted on 06/02/2009 8:42:49 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (The great object is that every man be armed. - Patrick Henry)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

My office doesn’t close for a week when someone dies.


37 posted on 06/02/2009 8:43:39 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: the invisib1e hand

Imagine if they closed down a week everytime someone died at the clinic.


38 posted on 06/02/2009 8:44:05 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: bcsco

There are women who are being actively stalked by violent men, who have COURT ORDERS protecting them, but for whom the police cannot provide protection.

Many times, we read of these women being killed by the men who were threatening them, and the police say “sorry”.

So, if there are U.S. marshalls just sitting around doing nothing (and if so, why didn’t we fire them), wouldn’t it be better to assign them to women who are in actual danger, rather than wasting them on abortion clinics?

On the other hand, Obama has to “do something”, after all he has only been in office 5 months and he’s already had TWO terrorist attacks on U.S. Soil, one of which actually targeted our military operations.


39 posted on 06/02/2009 8:47:07 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: lacrew
Conversely, Sebelius knew that if she failed to perform for Tiller, he would take her down with him...so they both played a high stakes game. He actually bought himself out of criminal prosecution in the wide open.

Yes he did. I think his demise is all-too-convenient. He had the goods on them all, and it wouldn't take much to convince some hot-head nut who already hates him, to take him out.

To me, this looks more like a hit--the FBI knew about Roeder and stood back and just let it happen. The politicians stand to gain more from his death than anybody. Dead men tell no tales.

Now Roeder will be summarily executed by the State to keep him from talking. They don't want him to turn into the Pro-Life Mumia. Watch.

40 posted on 06/02/2009 8:48:29 AM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: pray4liberty

I suppose in future years Tiller will be known as th “slain abortion provider”, just as the Rev. Martin Luther King has been known as “the slain civil rights leader”.


41 posted on 06/02/2009 8:49:45 AM PDT by 19th LA Inf
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To: Sig Sauer P220

Ain’t that a shame. Too bad. The country might have been better off if she had. Politically incorrect to the max, you bet!


42 posted on 06/02/2009 8:52:43 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: pray4liberty

If the far left pillories the guy too much, he may turn into a martyr and that would really piss off the far left IMO.


43 posted on 06/02/2009 8:55:01 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: CharlesWayneCT
So, if there are U.S. marshalls just sitting around doing nothing (and if so, why didn’t we fire them), wouldn’t it be better to assign them to women who are in actual danger, rather than wasting them on abortion clinics?

Those court orders don't fall under Federal jurisdiction. Not to say that Obama may necessarily be guided by such distinctions, but the fact is there, and those within the law enforcement community are mainly guided by the law. Of course, the police saying "sorry" is emblematic of the faulty nature of law.

On the other hand, Obama has to “do something”, after all he has only been in office 5 months and he’s already had TWO terrorist attacks on U.S. Soil, one of which actually targeted our military operations.

Therein lies the irony I pointed out. This was not a terrorist attack against our military operations. The killing of a soldier at a recruitment center was. Yet is the administration taking the same precautions at those sites? And, of course, this begs the question whether the term 'terrorist attack' is appropriate in the Tiller killing.

44 posted on 06/02/2009 8:58:23 AM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: bcsco

When you save a life that would have been taken otherwise, isn’t that some kind of defense that can be used.


45 posted on 06/02/2009 9:03:27 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Ev Reeman
When you save a life that would have been taken otherwise, isn’t that some kind of defense that can be used.

I'm not sure how this relates to my post...

46 posted on 06/02/2009 9:06:54 AM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: bcsco
Those court orders don't fall under Federal jurisdiction

This is true, but neither does the local killing of a local doctor in Kansas, or the protection of locally operated, state chartered abortion clinics.

47 posted on 06/02/2009 9:21:30 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Imagine if they closed down a week everytime someone died at the clinic.

That's a home run, FRiend.

48 posted on 06/02/2009 9:21:34 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: CharlesWayneCT
...but neither does the local killing of a local doctor in Kansas, or the protection of locally operated, state chartered abortion clinics.

Good point. The only connection is the Federal courts mandating that abortion is legal. The administration has a far more direct connection to the recruitment center killing than this. But... tick, tick...

49 posted on 06/02/2009 9:41:18 AM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

Maybe we are just being tested.

On your point, a lib nutcase like her would have been proud as punch to show everyone how “tolerant and un-bigoted” she was bu showing off her little h/y.


50 posted on 06/02/2009 10:43:46 AM PDT by dusttoyou (Remember the Alamo Tea Party - CHENEY-PALIN 2012)
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